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Last week the Pakistani government announced a new head of its premier intelligence agency, the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI).
Lt-General Faiz Hameed has taken over at the helm of affairs at a crucial time when many have argued that Pakistan has won its war on terror. It was an appointment that was met with some fairly tired, utterly predictable criticism from certain commentators. Unable to depict Faiz as the pantomime villain, they have reverted to playground taunts of bland incompetence; they could not be further from the truth.
The last two years have seen a significant drop in terrorist attacks in Pakistan. British Airways have resumed flights this summer after a ten year absence due to the security situation. The United Nations have also just announced that Islamabad is a safe station again for its diplomatic family postings. A lot of this is down to the work of Pakistan’s ISI, and the man running its internal security wing, so critical in delivering this peace dividend, is Gen Faiz.
The west’s suspicion of the ISI is based on little and can smack of, if we are being kind, cultural arrogance. I am minded of the scene from the wonderful Blackadder Goes Forth where General Melchett describes British agents as “splendid fellows, brave heroes doing their bit for Blighty” and German agents as “filthy Hun weasels fighting their dirty underhand war.”
We accept Richard Grenier’s maxim that, “We sleep safely in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would harm us,” for our western selves so must we for Pakistan.
Pakistani military culture could not be more similar to ours and General Faiz is the polar opposite of a rough man: Charming, principled and fiercely intelligent. Of course we cannot be blind to some of the moral margins that the ISI exist in. They back some bad guys. Not quite as many or as bad as the hysterical accusations that their neighbor suggests but, so do we.
It is apt to be writing about the importance of the Pakistan Army and its intelligence to the British Army and security. Last week, British Defense Chief of Staff, General Sir Nick Carter watched cricket with his Pakistan counterpart General Qamar Javed Bajwa.

The west’s suspicion of the ISI is based on little and can smack of, if we are being kind, cultural arrogance.

Robert Gallimore

Britain’s premier defense think tank, the Royal United Services Institute (RUSI) in 2017 published an in-depth report on the historical and strategic nature of the British and Pakistan Army and why it matters. The report also mentions Field Marshall Lord Guthrie who sat at the very apex of my Regiment, the Welsh Guards, when I joined as a young puppy in 1997.
Lord Guthrie formed an extremely close relationship and friendship with the Pakistan Army which continues to this day. At the world’s most prestigious military college, the Royal College of Defense Studies (RCDS), Lord Guthrie said that there was much to be learnt from his friend General Pervez Musharraf in how the Pakistan Army was countering the war on terror.
On my visits to the magical Khyber Rifles’, guardians of the pass, Mess, I was struck by the faces of the British Generals who beamed – or in the case of the great Sir Michael Jackson, scowled like a weathered gargoyle — down from the pictures on the walls. They were the brilliant ones, the most respected ones, the ones who saw the importance of reaching out to Pakistan.
Both Guthrie and Musharraf were graduates of the RCDS, as indeed was another illustrious Pakistani General, Raheel Sharif.
Similarly, the incoming head of the powerful ISI is a graduate of the RCDS. It must be noted that the world’s best officers come to RCDS as a finishing school before they go on to become three and four stars around the globe.
General Faiz continues in this long line of tradition, and was the top Brig. of the Pakistan Army when he came to RCDS in 2015. From what little I learnt from my own experience of Afghanistan, twice embedded within and fighting alongside the Afghan National Army, one thing was key: That for the British Army and security, the stability of Pakistan mattered as much, if not more, than Afghanistan. This was something that the former Ambassador to Kabul, Sir Sherhad Cowper Coles also alluded to in his own Afghan memoir.
The British Pakistan security and intelligence partnership stops dozens of attacks every year and is acknowledged by martial polymath General Jonathon Shaw, former head of British special forces, who said, “UK -Pakistan military links are very close, most noticeably at RCDS where among its alumnae are four chiefs of Pakistan Defense. The deep rooted relationship is key to the cooperative management of our joint security challenges — an inevitable consequence of our shared history, populations and current challenges.”
The combined army training, doctrinal semblance and cultural understanding means the Pakistan Army is the only non-Western Army that has a platoon commander at RMAS Sandhurst. We trust the future of British Officers with the Pakistan instructors here in our own country, so we should extend our trust to the ISI. Incoming General Faiz Hameed will further these ties.

– Robert Gallimore is a former British war veteran and a security consultant with particular expertise in Central Asia, the Middle East and Africa. He is currently finishing his book on the Pakistan Army to be published next year.
http://www.arabnews.pk/node/1519521
 
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Very nicely put by Robert Gallimore, very insightful. Taking the cues from this article, I can say USA will regret its decision of cancelling the training program for Pakistani armed forces.
 
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A very positive article.
British think differently. I grew up in Britain. Yes there are morons in Britain but the ruling elite know what's what. It's better for Pakistan to move camp from USA. This country has started its slide and that will just continue to take speed
 
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https://nation.com.pk/Reporter/robert-gallimore
ROBERT GALLIMORE

July 03, 2019




Last week the Pakistani government announced a new head of its premier intelligence agency, the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI).

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Lt-General Faiz Hameed has taken over at the helm of affairs at a crucial time when many have argued that Pakistan has won its war on terror.

It was an appointment that was met with some fairly tired, utterly predictable criticism from certain commentators.

Unable to depict Faiz as the pantomime villain, they have reverted to playground taunts of bland incompetence; they could not be further from the truth.

The last two years have seen a significant drop in terrorist attacks in Pakistan. British Airways have resumed flights this summer after a ten year absence due to the security situation.

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The United Nations have also just announced that Islamabad is a safe station again for its diplomatic family postings.

A lot of this is down to the work of Pakistan’s ISI, and the man running its internal security wing, so critical in delivering this peace dividend, is Gen Faiz.

“The west’s suspicion of the ISI is based on little and can smack of, if we are being kind, cultural arrogance,” says Robert Gallimore

The west’s suspicion of the ISI is based on little and can smack of, if we are being kind, cultural arrogance.

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I am minded of the scene from the wonderful Blackadder Goes Forth where General Melchett describes British agents as “splendid fellows, brave heroes doing their bit for Blighty” and German agents as “filthy Hun weasels fighting their dirty underhand war.”

We accept Richard Grenier’s maxim that, “We sleep safely in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would harm us,” for our western selves so must we for Pakistan.

Pakistani military culture could not be more similar to ours and General Faiz is the polar opposite of a rough man: Charming, principled and fiercely intelligent.

Of course we cannot be blind to some of the moral margins that the ISI exist in. They back some bad guys.

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Not quite as many or as bad as the hysterical accusations that their neighbour suggests but, so do we.

It is apt to be writing about the importance of the Pakistan Army and its intelligence to the British Army and security.

Last week, British Defence Chief of Staff General Sir Nick Carter watched cricket with his Pakistani counterpart General Qamar Javed Bajwa.

Britain’s premier defence think tank, the Royal United Services Institute (RUSI) in 2017 published an in-depth report on the historical and strategic nature of the British and Pakistan Army and why it matters.

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The report also mentions Field Marshall Lord Guthrie who sat at the very apex of my Regiment, the Welsh Guards, when I joined as a young puppy in 1997.

Lord Guthrie formed an extremely close relationship and friendship with the Pakistan Army which continues to this day.

At the world’s most prestigious military college, the Royal College of Defence Studies (RCDS), Lord Guthrie said that there was much to be learnt from his friend General Pervez Musharraf in how the Pakistan Army was countering the war on terror.

On my visits to the magical Khyber Rifles’, guardians of the pass, Mess, I was struck by the faces of the British Generals who beamed – or in the case of the great Sir Michael Jackson, scowled like a weathered gargoyle — down from the pictures on the walls.

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They were the brilliant ones, the most respected ones, the ones who saw the importance of reaching out to Pakistan.

Both Guthrie and Musharraf were graduates of the RCDS, as indeed was another illustrious Pakistani General, Raheel Sharif.

Similarly, the incoming head of the powerful ISI is a graduate of the RCDS. It must be noted that the world’s best officers come to RCDS as a finishing school before they go on to become three and four stars around the globe.


General Faiz continues in this long line of tradition, and was the top Brig. of the Pakistan Army when he came to RCDS in 2015.

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From what little I learnt from my own experience of Afghanistan, twice embedded within and fighting alongside the Afghan National Army, one thing was key: That for the British Army and security, the stability of Pakistan mattered as much, if not more, than Afghanistan.

This was something that the former Ambassador to Kabul, Sir Sherhad Cowper Coles also alluded to in his own Afghan memoir.

The British Pakistan security and intelligence partnership stops dozens of attacks every year and is acknowledged by martial polymath General Jonathon Shaw, former head of British special forces, who said, “UK -Pakistan military links are very close, most noticeably at RCDS where among its alumnae are four chiefs of Pakistan Defence.

The deep-rooted relationship is key to the cooperative management of our joint security challenges — an inevitable consequence of our shared history, populations and current challenges.”

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The combined army training, doctrinal semblance and cultural understanding means the Pakistan Army is the only non-Western Army that has a platoon commander at RMAS Sandhurst.

We trust the future of British Officers with the Pakistan instructors here in our own country, so we should extend our trust to the ISI. Incoming General Faiz Hameed will further these ties.

https://nation.com.pk/03-Jul-2019/pakistan-s-new-isi-chief-deserves-full-british-support
 
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We trust the future of British Officers with the Pakistan instructors here in our own country, so we should extend our trust to the ISI. Incoming General Faiz Hameed will further these ties.:pakistan:
 
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and we are celebrating that the generals have been to royal colleges. When will this nation come out of slavery? when?
Oh bhai jaan aap ko pata hai kay yay college 300 saal purana hai and aala taleem deta hai and yahan white staff calls the brown sir!
 
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Celebrating going to a good school in your field is not slavery. Stop using words you don't understand.
Celebrating going to a good school in your field is not slavery. Stop using words you don't understand.

oh, you are pissed because I used the word "slavery". Ok lets put it this way, we are one of the best armies in the world which is what we brag about and yet we go to royal army and lick the boots of their generals. What a shame

Do you even what slavery means ?
oh **** off
 
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oh, you are pissed because I used the word "slavery". Ok lets put it this way, we are one of the best armies in the world which is what we brag about and yet we go to royal army and lick the boots of their generals. What a shame


oh **** off
Oh I see you are clueless. I am not pissed i just hate stupidity and people who have a chip on their shoulder.

That you equate the above with slavery shows your level of intellect. I suggest you leave the UK as you think they are slavemasters....
 
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Behind the scenes there is a lot of work that is going on in international security circles to keep people safe. This article shows some people in Britain appreciate the ISI's role in that. All governments have people in the shadows doing things nobody will ever admit to, but all across the world there are shared interests.
 
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I want his book. I want to read his memoirs and insights. Pakistani military & intelligence competency is not just the only reason I assume. However, observing Indian tactics of utilizing every front against Pakistan I believe that it is important for us to expand our panoramic view of world history and particularly consider mutual interests of other nations we can offer.This is how we can fail our opponents by denying their propaganda and also their allies who are not looking into the future Pakistan could offer.
We need competent government who aid our military in establishing excellent foreign policy. We need to eliminate corruption so that foreign investors could trust us and so that our economy could become stable. To offer something, we must begin by investing something into other nations.However, corruption has caused our natural resources, our skills to be looted by even friendliest nations and we are in not a good position to brand ourselves. Let armed sectors take charge where they are interested but hang these criminal politicians first. Improve your quality before branding yourself so that we could pave better opportunities for world and also help our armed sectors in getting success.This time it's Pakistan Tehreek Insaaf, next time make sure it isn't PPP, PML-N or any other old party.
Regards
 
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and we are celebrating that the generals have been to royal colleges. When will this nation come out of slavery? when?
Mate this is called interaction. You learn new and advanced tactics and also learn how the outside world thinks and plans.
 
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