Pakistan's Biggest Threat

[praveen]

You forgot add another option Pakistan itself .Rest all are effects of the cause

 

[Conqueror]

Arrogant America my friends.. its America. Even if India turned out to be our biggest enemy in coming days, it will be a "thanks" to Americans "friendship". Pakistan and America are two opposite poles of magnet, the moment we broke, we will be repulsing each other like anything. Just wait for America's reasons to be over and we will be sanctioned and thrown out of their "buddy list" like many times before.

 

[Ababeel]

If we study the case then its looks as all are one =USA+Israel+India+TTP.
So its a single united threat and not seperate ones. India alone can't dare to harm Pakistan or we can say a large number of Indians want to live in peace with Pakistan. Problem is the Kashmir issue left by British imperiapists intentionally causing the rift much more than the partition. Only Crusadors and Zionist will lure India to accompany them in taking out Pak.

 

[abbasniazi]

I'd request both Brothers BlackBlood ad VSdoc to stick to the topic, please use your energies to enlighten eachother, not to demoralize or degrade others.

If some has to say less, then there is no harm in it, we are not solving a paper which checks our stamina to write.

On the other hand, if someone is smarter then the other he shouldn't feel proud of it, rather he should bow his head down to the creator for his creation.

ALLAH(S.W.T) says in the GLORIOUS QURAN "beshak hum nay insan ko behtereen taqveem(balance) main peda kiya" so if someone is attractive then the other one is genious.

we must learn and understand the phenomenon of coexistance and recognition of others, rather most of us fall victims to self esteem and pride.

Hope you guys understand in a good spirit what i want to convay to you.

 

[Gasht]

Originally Posted by Gasht
I personally believe the Iranian revolution was created by mossad, in order to cause a rift between America and Arab (Muslims), the relationship between the two was maturing due to Afghanistan/Arab /Pakistan (mujadden) axis.

The Iranian revolution pre-dated the Russian invasion of Afghanistan! And ff there's one truism pretty much everyone subscribes to, it's that oil runs thicker than blood in the middle east. The Shah used to sell Israel oil; the mullahs don't. So how can anyone believe that the Israelis had anything to do with putting the mullah in power?

If you decide to reply to my piece, please post it in it's full entirety otherwise it can be particularly deceptive and distort its intended meaning

for example: John said XYZ is a liar

in actual-laity: John said XYZ is a lair which is a false

The Iranian revolution pre-dated the Russian invasion of Afghanistan!

Maybe you need open up a history book, Soviet Union involvement in Afghanistan pre-dates Pakistan "The great Game" versus British and Allies. Especially America was aligned with the Muslim world. The main contention between the two is the state of Israel if you don't believe me read up on 1948 Arab–Israeli War and occupation of Palestine. 1948 Arab?Israeli War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Middle-eastern and American interest started merging as the Muslim-Christian alliance planned to install a pro Islamic government in Afghanistan opposed to communist rule. This was Several years in-advance to soviet ground invasion.

Afghanistan/ Arab/Pakistani and later the mujahidin axis was officially reported to be formed a full year prior to Iranian revolution.

August 1978
“Reports soon began to filter back to KGB headquarters in Moscow of growing Islamic opposition in Afghanistan to the new Taraki regime. My KGB colleague Vladimir Kryuchkov and I were then sent to Kabul on a fact-finding mission. Our objectives included signing a cooperation agreement between the Soviet and Afghan intelligence services.”

The alliance was formed several years prior to being reported, as in the case of Vietnam where America supported Khmer Rouge quite a number of years before sending direct support and media coverage of the affair (this my friend what we call clandestine alliance)

Further evidence:

Zbigniew Brzezinski: was the architect of Muslim -Christian alliance under the carter administration (1977 – 1981) and later Regan years 1981---

And ff there's one truism pretty much everyone subscribes to, it's that oil runs thicker than blood in the middle east The Shah used to sell Israel oil; the mullahs don't. So how can anyone believe that the Israelis had anything to do with putting the mullah in power

As for oil requirement: Israel is a tiny country which requires very little oil and the fact of the matter, oil is internationally traded commodity which can be bought and sold at market price from any part of the world.

 

[FireFighter]

India is our existential, mortal, and ideologically the biggest threat we face, whereas the US and TTP are both seasonal threats as their existence depend on the status of WOT, however not to be taken lightly lol

India:

Existential because they fought 4 wars with Pakistan. One prime example i that their leaders have never even accepted giving an interview to a Pakistan channel, which shows that they don't accept pakistani public or want to engage with us. Whereas Benazir, Nawaz Sharif, and Musharaf all have given interviews to India and engaged with the public. Indian leadership level, they simply havn't digested Pakistan deep down in their hearts. Also another solid evidence that India has deployed 60-70% of her army at Pakstian border despite of having one of the largest borders in the world.

Mortal because history shows they have supported the Mukti Bahni to break us up, and continue to arm insurgencies against our state from Afghanistan. Recent attempts to isolate Pak deplomatically and economically are further proofs of her dirty yet deadly intentions about Pak. Not to be discounted from the fact that many Indian hardline hindu politicians also fantasize of restoring some 5000 year old non-existant Hindu raj in the whole continent.


Ideological threat because they demonize our founding father Quad at the state level and have effectively brainwashed most of its population to hate the once "great Indian" Jinnah. Also self-criticism and self-evaluation about founders of Pak are not only discouraged but also demonized in public. Also Pak being an Islamic Republic are at odds with India's false portrayal of a "Secular Republic" run by the hardline brahmin hindus.

 

[Ababeel]

Hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
At last the biggest threat found out so easily and by whom!!!!!!!!

 

[EjazR]

One prime example i that their leaders have never even accepted giving an interview to a Pakistan channel,

HAve you thought that its because media opened only post 2007-2008 in Pakistan while media has been open in India for far longer?

Well your prime example itself is wrong, and most recently Rajiv Shukla gave interview of DawnNews. So you will have to come up with another "prime" example.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/strate...ia-does-not-blame-pakistani-govt-26-11-a.html

 

[croptikal]

Ideological threat because they demonize our founding father Quad at the state level and have effectively brainwashed most of its population to hate the once "great Indian" Jinnah. Also self-criticism and self-evaluation about founders of Pak are not only discouraged but also demonized in public. Also Pak being an Islamic Republic are at odds with India's false portrayal of a "Secular Republic" run by the hardline brahmin hindus.

Lets assume everything you said is a true(
The truth is contradictory, actually) . How does all this affect Pakistan, sir? Lets say all Indians hate Pakistan, Jinnah and are ruled by evil 'Brahmin Hindus'. How is that affecting Pakistan? How is that a threat to Pakistan?

Anyway, my take:

Threat A)TTP is the immediate threat. One that needs to be dealt urgently at all costs. Failure is not an option.

Threat B)India is a medium level threat. Pakistan has enough time to deal with it. Success and Failure are part of this game and the game goes on.

Threat C)PA is the mortal threat. This Org has taken over Pakistan and has made it a quasi-democracy. Destroyed most institutions that protect freedom and rights of people. Take over most resources and have failed to defeat the threat B.


Threat D)US is the long term and immediate threat. Pakistan has been completely dependent on US for long. US is literally ruling Pakistan through a proxy named PA. US has found that controlling PA is the easiest way to control Pakistan. US is a super power and can prop up and damn countries as it wishes, particularly those that are completely dependent on its generosity.

 

[croptikal]

The enemy inside the home is most dangerous

 

[Kompromat]

You forgot add another option Pakistan itself .Rest all are effects of the cause

Avoid spreading such a BS here Bring something relevant " Put up or Shut up!"

 

[BlackenTheSky]

ITS tehrik-e-taliban

 

[PWFI]

biggest threat=ISRAEL,INDISA,and USA because they support terrorismes in pakistan!

TTP=products,
ISIRAEL,INDISA,AND USA=racines(back ground)

 

[Developereo]

The biggest threat to Pakistan is our lack of national unity and civic awareness.

It is this weakness which is exploited by external agencies to use our own people against us. It allows India/Afghanistan to use the TTP and BLA to wreak havoc in our cities; it allows the US to buy out our politicians and media personalities; and it allows wealthy Arabs to use our people as cannon fodder for their jihads.

A well informed, patriotic citizenry would not elect manifestly corrupt "leaders" who fail to deliver governance and who are hedging their bets by maintaining foreign residence; it would not tolerate religious "leaders" who don't actively combat the extremism poisoning our society; and it would not patronize a Judas media which undermines the very men and women who are defending us from the terrorists.

 

[pak-marine]

It is us
Across Pakistan’s history a number of politicians, lawyers, journalists, student leaders and party workers have bravely wrestled with the establishment’s civil, military and economic arms.

These arms have played every dirty trick in the book of destructive Machiavellian politics set into motion against democrats so the ‘establishment’ can retain a stagnant and largely reactionary political and economic status-quo; a status-quo that fears the pluralistic and levelling qualities of democracy.

Many from the higher echelons of society have prospered from this status-quo. They are always ready to ward off democracy through a synthetic brand of ‘patriotism’ concocted from overt displays of nationalistic chauvinism and politicised Islam.

Though they are quick to blame the masses for falling so easily for democratic parties’ ‘empty’ promises, the truth is, the same masses have been more susceptible to whatever hate-spewing gibberish and mythical brew these magicians have been feeding the people for decades in the name of history, Islam and patriotism.

This brew, present in the history books our children are taught, has been gradually turning the average Pakistani into a paranoid and pessimistic android who, as if instinctively, lets out his frustrations by pounding the democrats with cynical blows, also swinging wildly at Pakistan’s many enemies he is told are lurking within and outside its borders.

In this mangled discourse, the documented horrors of the long military dictatorships that this republic has suffered are conveniently forgotten; sometimes even by those in the political and journalistic circles who had struggled hard for a democratic setup; they suddenly seem to lose all their painfully cultivated tolerance and patience, once that democratic setup is revived.

No wonder, in this day and age, we are still debating whether democracy is right for Pakistan, and/or is it compatible with Islam. It is not surprising that such debates crop up in a nation constantly injected with a heavy dose of dubious history which begins not five thousand years ago with the Indus Valley Civilisation, but many centuries later with Muhammad Bin Qasim’s conquest of Sindh. In fact, some textbooks have had no qualms of completely bypassing logic by claiming that Qasim was actually the first Pakistani!

This history then cleverly ignores the many terrible intrigues and murders that were committed by a series of Muslim rulers against their own comrades and kin, sometimes in a fit of jealously and sometimes owing to pure power play. This historical narrative goes to work right away when we are quick to present ourselves as noble people who are incapable of murder, genocide and intrigue, and assert that it is actually other races and religions who have been targeting us.

We forget West Pakistan’s controversial role and the bloodbath that followed in the former East Pakistan. We forget how the founder of Pakistan was treated while on his death bed, as he lay lamenting how some of his closest colleagues couldn’t wait to see him die. We forget how a wily general calling himself a pious Muslim sent a popularly elected prime minister to the gallows on the feeblest of evidences.

We forget how an Islamic party being led by a renowned Islamic scholar was behind two of the most shameful acts of mass rioting against the Ahmadiya community. We forget how, long before Hindu fanatics tore down the Barbri Masjid in India, varied Islamic sects and sub-sects were busy going to war against one another in the streets of Lucknow (Muharram processions are banned in that city for over a decade now owing to Sunni-Shia and not Hindu-Muslim rivalry).

We forget the terrible sounds of the army’s tanks rolling into Balochistan (1962, 1973); and then in Sindh (1983), slaughtering a number of young Baloch and Sindhis, accusing them of treason, when all they wanted were their democratic rights. We forget the terrible decade-long armed action by the state against ‘Muhajirs’ in Karachi, in which whole families were wiped out.

We forget how our intelligence agencies schemed the downfall of one democratic government after another in the 1990s, all the while fattening scores of holy monsters many of whom are now blowing up our markets and mosques. There are many more of these horrid episodes in which Pakistanis killed Pakistanis and Muslims slaughtered Muslims.

Why is it so difficult then for us to understand that the mayhem rained on us today is by monsters like the home-grown Taliban? ‘It can’t be us. It can’t be Muslims,’ we say.

Back in 1971, very few Pakistanis were willing to advise Yahya Khan to get into a dialogue with rebelling Bengalis. But today, after years of unprecedented violence perpetrated by the Taliban, we have many politicians, TV hosts, and journalists suggesting a dialogue with men who one can’t even be described as human. These people’s minds and those of their followers have been influenced by all the concocted and mythical moments of glory, and of justified hatred in the name of religion and patriotism present in our historical discourse and the false memories that it has created in us.

Unfortunately such demagogic claptrap still manages to pass as being Pakistan and Muslim history in the textbooks and on popular TV.