Pakistan's Biggest Threat

[Kompromat]

I'd request both Brothers BlackBlood ad VSdoc to stick to the topic, please use your energies to enlighten eachother, not to demoralize or degrade others.

If some has to say less, then there is no harm in it, we are not solving a paper which checks our stamina to write.

On the other hand, if someone is smarter then the other he shouldn't feel proud of it, rather he should bow his head down to the creator for his creation.

ALLAH(S.W.T) says in the GLORIOUS QURAN "beshak hum nay insan ko behtereen taqveem(balance) main peda kiya" so if someone is attractive then the other one is genious.

we must learn and understand the phenomenon of coexistance and recognition of others, rather most of us fall victims to self esteem and pride.

Hope you guys understand in a good spirit what i want to convay to you.

I appreciate your response Brother but you also may know who started it!

 

[greatsequence]

TTP is no threat at all. The real threat are the supporters. TTP inshallah will be finished in few months.I think USA is a biggest threat we can deal with every one else but if US comes in the picture than we cant do much.

 

[Destructlord]

Another conspiracy theory from Gasht about Iran! I don't know why some of you guys insist that Iran is the Pakistan's enemy?!!! I fail to see the logic in here! Because there is none actually!

We have always respected the Pakistan's sovereignty and we look at Pakistanis as brave, intelligent and respected people and our brothers.

Some Saudi elements in Pakistan want to disturb this cordial relationship, I hope my Pakistani brothers understand what I mean?

As for "Peace pipeline" believe me we are doing everything we can to provide Pakistan with natural gas, but the problem here is not the drilling technology (Thanks to China) but the finance! If our friends in India would have provide some amount of finance there wouldn't be any need of Gasprom to get involved in this deal! I wonder why our Chinese friends don't help to finance the project? It will also guarantees the China need of energy with it's astonishing development rate!

 

[TaimiKhan]

yeah because the amount of Indians we have....

Gasht, don't mind but I believe the results above won't be speaking the truth considering that the poll should have been directed towards the Pakistani audience, as you have made it into an open poll, thus non-pakistani members would be polling their vote too, who would definitely be voting other then you know what, so the numbers of one segment will be higher based on their own perception.

As Indian member would be voting for TTP mostly, so would be US members and something like on this pattern, thus giving you an inflated TTP threat count, which may be not true.

Should have made into a more specific poll, targeting a specific audience, but if you wanna make into an open poll, sorry to say, it will not show the true perceptions of what Pakistanis think, rather what others or all think.

 

[vsdoc]

It is us
Across Pakistan’s history a number of politicians, lawyers, journalists, student leaders and party workers have bravely wrestled with the establishment’s civil, military and economic arms.

These arms have played every dirty trick in the book of destructive Machiavellian politics set into motion against democrats so the ‘establishment’ can retain a stagnant and largely reactionary political and economic status-quo; a status-quo that fears the pluralistic and levelling qualities of democracy.

Many from the higher echelons of society have prospered from this status-quo. They are always ready to ward off democracy through a synthetic brand of ‘patriotism’ concocted from overt displays of nationalistic chauvinism and politicised Islam.

Though they are quick to blame the masses for falling so easily for democratic parties’ ‘empty’ promises, the truth is, the same masses have been more susceptible to whatever hate-spewing gibberish and mythical brew these magicians have been feeding the people for decades in the name of history, Islam and patriotism.

This brew, present in the history books our children are taught, has been gradually turning the average Pakistani into a paranoid and pessimistic android who, as if instinctively, lets out his frustrations by pounding the democrats with cynical blows, also swinging wildly at Pakistan’s many enemies he is told are lurking within and outside its borders.

In this mangled discourse, the documented horrors of the long military dictatorships that this republic has suffered are conveniently forgotten; sometimes even by those in the political and journalistic circles who had struggled hard for a democratic setup; they suddenly seem to lose all their painfully cultivated tolerance and patience, once that democratic setup is revived.

No wonder, in this day and age, we are still debating whether democracy is right for Pakistan, and/or is it compatible with Islam. It is not surprising that such debates crop up in a nation constantly injected with a heavy dose of dubious history which begins not five thousand years ago with the Indus Valley Civilisation, but many centuries later with Muhammad Bin Qasim’s conquest of Sindh. In fact, some textbooks have had no qualms of completely bypassing logic by claiming that Qasim was actually the first Pakistani!

This history then cleverly ignores the many terrible intrigues and murders that were committed by a series of Muslim rulers against their own comrades and kin, sometimes in a fit of jealously and sometimes owing to pure power play. This historical narrative goes to work right away when we are quick to present ourselves as noble people who are incapable of murder, genocide and intrigue, and assert that it is actually other races and religions who have been targeting us.

We forget West Pakistan’s controversial role and the bloodbath that followed in the former East Pakistan. We forget how the founder of Pakistan was treated while on his death bed, as he lay lamenting how some of his closest colleagues couldn’t wait to see him die. We forget how a wily general calling himself a pious Muslim sent a popularly elected prime minister to the gallows on the feeblest of evidences.

We forget how an Islamic party being led by a renowned Islamic scholar was behind two of the most shameful acts of mass rioting against the Ahmadiya community. We forget how, long before Hindu fanatics tore down the Barbri Masjid in India, varied Islamic sects and sub-sects were busy going to war against one another in the streets of Lucknow (Muharram processions are banned in that city for over a decade now owing to Sunni-Shia and not Hindu-Muslim rivalry).

We forget the terrible sounds of the army’s tanks rolling into Balochistan (1962, 1973); and then in Sindh (1983), slaughtering a number of young Baloch and Sindhis, accusing them of treason, when all they wanted were their democratic rights. We forget the terrible decade-long armed action by the state against ‘Muhajirs’ in Karachi, in which whole families were wiped out.

We forget how our intelligence agencies schemed the downfall of one democratic government after another in the 1990s, all the while fattening scores of holy monsters many of whom are now blowing up our markets and mosques. There are many more of these horrid episodes in which Pakistanis killed Pakistanis and Muslims slaughtered Muslims.

Why is it so difficult then for us to understand that the mayhem rained on us today is by monsters like the home-grown Taliban? ‘It can’t be us. It can’t be Muslims,’ we say.

Back in 1971, very few Pakistanis were willing to advise Yahya Khan to get into a dialogue with rebelling Bengalis. But today, after years of unprecedented violence perpetrated by the Taliban, we have many politicians, TV hosts, and journalists suggesting a dialogue with men who one can’t even be described as human. These people’s minds and those of their followers have been influenced by all the concocted and mythical moments of glory, and of justified hatred in the name of religion and patriotism present in our historical discourse and the false memories that it has created in us.

Unfortunately such demagogic claptrap still manages to pass as being Pakistan and Muslim history in the textbooks and on popular TV.

Brother, I salute you .... unabashedly, no strings attached.

A Pakistani with balls .... a spine ..... and a conscience.

Cheers, Doc

 

[TaimiKhan]

Another conspiracy theory from Gasht about Iran! I don't know why some of you guys insist that Iran is the Pakistan's enemy?!!! I fail to see the logic in here! Because there is none actually!

We have always respected the Pakistan's sovereignty and we look at Pakistanis as brave, intelligent and respected people and our brothers.

Some Saudi elements in Pakistan want to disturb this cordial relationship, I hope my Pakistani brothers understand what I mean?

As for "Peace pipeline" believe me we are doing everything we can to provide Pakistan with natural gas, but the problem here is not the drilling technology (Thanks to China) but the finance! If our friends in India would have provide some amount of finance there wouldn't be any need of Gasprom to get involved in this deal! I wonder why our Chinese friends don't help to finance the project? It will also guarantees the China need of energy with it's astonishing development rate!

I believe i had read somewhere that now China is looking into this deal and weighing its options to join this deal when India got out, this China thing was also mentioned the reason that why India started to think of again joining it.

China interested in IPI, India can rejoin: Iranian envoy

Iran offers India 'limited time' to sign IPI deal - India - The Times of India

 

[Sam_Bajwa]

Hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
At last the biggest threat found out so easily and by whom!!!!!!!!

hey what made you laugh plz share the funny part of my post
i know you agree with me because no one can understand this issue as you Bengali babu's can.

 

[Cheetah786]

Who do you consider Pakistan's biggest threat ?

Pakistani Politicians so i chose non of the above

 

[Barrett]

Pakistan's Biggest Threat

 

[Dawkins]

Pakistan's Biggest Threat

I thought he's just 10% of a threat

 

[Barrett]

I thought he's just 10% of a threat

That was 14 years ago, he has worked very hard to get to the level of 100%

 

[BlackSonic]

Gasht, don't mind but I believe the results above won't be speaking the truth considering that the poll should have been directed towards the Pakistani audience, as you have made it into an open poll, thus non-pakistani members would be polling their vote too, who would definitely be voting other then you know what, so the numbers of one segment will be higher based on their own perception.

As Indian member would be voting for TTP mostly, so would be US members and something like on this pattern, thus giving you an inflated TTP threat count, which may be not true.

Should have made into a more specific poll, targeting a specific audience, but if you wanna make into an open poll, sorry to say, it will not show the true perceptions of what Pakistanis think, rather what others or all think.

Sometimes your enemy can give you a better advise than your friend.

 

[TruthAloneTriumphs]

Sometimes your enemy can give you a better advise than your friend.

True. Outsider's perspective, considered very important in business parlance

 

[TaimiKhan]

Sometimes your enemy can give you a better advise than your friend.

Enemy will never give you a better advice, except when it comes surrendering as an advice.

And enemy sits outside without knowing the internal dynamics of the country except for what the international media is telling them and their perspective is based on that. We being in our country know more who has what capability and who is doing what and what not.

If someone says a few thousand armed men who can't defend their own stronghold for just a few days are a threat to this country are gravely mistaken, countries have much stronger guerrilla or armed organizations but those countries are holding own even after decades.

Was LTTE weaker then TTP, no, rather many times more powerful & motivated in every field, did it overran Colombo, don't think so, but its now no more. Same case else where.

If i say Kashmiri Mujaheddin or Naxals are the biggest threat to India, i am sure you will laugh ur arse out & say what stupid statement is that as you know India internally more then me, so same case here after seeing the above poll, i am laughing my arse out.

 

[jizzy2010]

Well I think America is biggest treat to Pakistan because America use them selves and India as well against Pakistan throught their agents over the whole country.