Pakistani Punjab and Former East punjab

[Tea addict]

No haryanvis can't take on pakistanis, wake up kid. Your small frame and build make you non starter to begin with. Yes you do well with in India which isn't a big deal. Most of them are hindu jaats who are migrants from sindh/punjab who forgot their mother tongue, not proper haryanvis.

@CleanWell see, here it is...they can never offend me...from gangu teli in some previous post , where he himself said even hindu jaats are related to Rajasthan and up..he claim tjem as their own.
KO.
Jai haryana,jai bharat.

 

[Kabira]

@CleanWell see, here it is...they can never offend me...from gangu teli in some previous post , where he himself said even hindu jaats are related to Rajasthan and up..he claim tjem as their own.
KO.
Jai haryana,jai bharat.

Looks like you got offended when I mentioned some historical facts. Which caste you belong to? Hindu jaats are ancient inhabitants of indus valley who migrated east wards and got influenced by its culture and hence forgot mother tongue. You don't teach father how to **** baniya jee.

 

[Tea addict]

Looks like you got offended when I mentioned some historical facts. Which caste you belong to? Hindu jaats are ancient inhabitants of indus valley who migrated east wards and got influenced by its culture and hence forgot mother tongue. You don't teach father how to **** baniya jee.

I have already mentioned my caste in earlier post, i am not starting that debate again..go and check it up.
Looks like i hit under the belt, its been time since i left boxing..things do happen.

Looks like you got offended when I mentioned some historical facts. Which caste you belong to? Hindu jaats are ancient inhabitants of indus valley who migrated east wards and got influenced by its culture and hence forgot mother tongue. You don't teach father how to **** baniya jee.

And for once defend what you believe in, sometimes bring in religion, sometimes language, sometime migration and keep on jumping from one post to another..cool down, reasses and then attack.

 

[ZenBird]

Looks like you got offended when I mentioned some historical facts. Which caste you belong to? Hindu jaats are ancient inhabitants of indus valley who migrated east wards and got influenced by its culture and hence forgot mother tongue. You don't teach father how to **** baniya jee.

He is a Rajput from Haryana bro, why fighting for no reason. Here are the demographics of Haryana from 1990

Ahir-10% , Jat- 25% , Jat Sikh-4% ,Gujjar-2.8% , Rajput-3% , Saini-2.5% Ror-1% , Aggarwal {Bania}-5-% , Brahman-7% , Khatri/Arora-8% , Chamar-10% , Balmiki-4% , Dhanak-2% ,Meo-2% , Bishnoi-0.7% ,Kamboj-2%

Jat/Jatt, Gujjar, Ahir, Saini are all classified as martial by the Britishers even if you buy into their racist theory. That makes it close to 50% of the population. Must be about the same makeup in both Punjabs as well.

Why does it matter where they migrated from? We are debating the status of Punjabs on both sides, not that one race is superior to others.

 

[Kabira]

I have already mentioned my caste in earlier post, i am not starting that debate again..go and check it up.
Looks like i hit under the belt, its been time since i left boxing..things do happen.


And for once defend what you believe in, sometimes bring in religion, sometimes language, sometime migration and keep on jumping from one post to another..cool down, reasses and then attack.

I fail to understand how haryanvi is taking pride in some jaats boxers. I mean in couple of years Pakistanis have made so much mark in MMA that now no Indian even come forward to fight them, including haryanvis.

 

[Tea addict]

I fail to understand how haryanvi is taking proud of some hindu jaats boxers. I mean in couple of years Pakistanis have made so much mark in MMA that now no Indian even come forward to fight them, including haryanvis.

Lol just won one bout with that gilgit baltistan guy and started thinking of superiority..lol..

 

[Kabira]

He is a Rajput from Haryana bro, why fighting for no reason. Here are the demographics of Haryana from 1990

Ahir-10% , Jat- 25% , Jat Sikh-4% ,Gujjar-2.8% , Rajput-3% , Saini-2.5% Ror-1% , Aggarwal {Bania}-5-% , Brahman-7% , Khatri/Arora-8% , Chamar-10% , Balmiki-4% , Dhanak-2% ,Meo-2% , Bishnoi-0.7% ,Kamboj-2%

Jat/Jatt, Gujjar, Ahir, Saini are all classified as martial by the Britishers even if you buy into their racist theory. That makes it close to 50% of the population. Must be about the same makeup in both Punjabs as well.

Why does it matter where they migrated from? We are debating the status of Punjabs on both sides, not that one race is superior to others.

Then he's gangu teli because rajput isn't a race but caste. British only separated haryanvi jaats from rest of Haryanvis. I rather believe them since they came up with original martial race shit. And no this doesn't have to be with being eligible for army under british was just political gimmick. Just general characteristics of people they described. Later on I can even find source of exact quote on Haryana people.

In Pak punjab there is visible difference between local punjabi rajputs and ranghers.

 

[Tea addict]

Lol just won one bout with that gilgit baltistan guy and started thinking of superiority..lol..

I fail to understand how haryanvi is taking proud of some hindu jaats boxers. I mean in couple of years Pakistanis have made so much mark in MMA that now no Indian even come forward to fight them, including haryanvis.

Stop claiming hindu jaats now, you have already called them UP wala in earlier posts

Then he's gangu teli because rajput isn't a race but caste. British only separated haryanvi jaats from rest of Haryanvis. I rather believe them since they came up with original martial race shit. And no this doesn't have to be with being eligible for army under british which was just political gimmick. Just general characteristics of people they described. Later on I can even find source of exact quote on Haryana people.

In Pak punjab there is visible difference between local punjabi rajputs and ranghers.

Then he's gangu teli because rajput isn't a race but caste. British only separated haryanvi jaats from rest of Haryanvis. I rather believe them since they came up with original martial race shit. And no this doesn't have to be with being eligible for army under british was just political gimmick. Just general characteristics of people they described. Later on I can even find source of exact quote on Haryana people.

In Pak punjab there is visible difference between local punjabi rajputs and ranghers.

You don't have to remind us how superior you are , it gets funny everytime

 

[ZenBird]

Then he's gangu teli because rajput isn't a race but caste. British only separated haryanvi jaats from rest of Haryanvis. I rather believe them since they came up with original martial race shit. And no this doesn't have to be with being eligible for army under british was just political gimmick. Just general characteristics of people they described. Later on I can even find source of exact quote on Haryana people.

In Pak punjab there is visible difference between local punjabi rajputs and ranghers.

The thing is that Britishers aren't a single entity. Sure you can find a gora guy writing something that supports your stand but odds are that I'll be able to find another gora source that supports something contradictory.

Anyway, as a Jatt Sikh I don't have a dog in this fight and won't spend the energy to convince you. I've interacted with Haryanvis throughout my life and found them to be no different than Punjabis. In some ways, I find that Haryanvi Jats have preserved Jat culture better than Sikh Jatts.

P.S. Just curious - what race or tribe are you from?

 

[Kabira]

Stop claiming hindu jaats now, you have already called them UP wala in earlier posts



You don't have to remind us how superior you are , it gets funny everytime

I'm not claiming them just stating facts. Do you know Liaquat Ali, first PM of Pakistan? With huge jagir in British era now known as Haryanvi jaat? His ancestors were actually east punjabi muslim jatt, they migrated to Haryana and forgot their tongue/culture. His tribe people were still living in east punjab in that era and were punjabi speakers.

Now Liaquat Ali is known as urdu speaking muhajir in Pakistan.

 

[Tea addict]

I'm not claiming them just stating facts. Do you know Liaquat Ali, first PM of Pakistan? With huge jagir in British era now known as Haryanvi jaat? His ancestors were actually east punjabi muslim jatt, they migrated to Haryana and forgot their tongue/culture. His tribe people were still living in east punjab in that era and were punjabi speakers.

Now Liaquat Ali is known as urdu speaking muhajir in Pakistan.

I know that, but why suddenly you are jumping from " haryanvis are related to UP" because of language then claiming them as your own by migration history
You can't be both, just like you can't claim Indus valley civilization and claim to be decendents of bin qasim as well

 

[Kabira]

The thing is that Britishers aren't a single entity. Sure you can find a gora guy writing something that supports your stand but odds are that I'll be able to find another gora source that supports something contradictory.

Anyway, as a Jatt Sikh I don't have a dog in this fight and won't spend the energy to convince you. I've interacted with Haryanvis throughout my life and found them to be no different than Punjabis. In some ways, I find that Haryanvi Jats have preserved Jat culture better than Sikh Jatts.

P.S. Just curious - what race or tribe are you from?

I already told you some time ago when you had different id, I'm jatt from Gujrat. I'm on harappadna as well, HRP350.

I know that, but why suddenly you are jumping from " haryanvis are related to UP" because of language then claiming them as your own by migration history
You can't be both, just like you can't claim Indus valley civilization and claim to be dependents of bin qasim as well

Yes 85% of you are apart from jaats. I don't know much about UP jaats if they are similar to haryanvis jaats or not. I'm just going by what British official said about people of Haryana, they were pretty clear. And its historical fact these haryanvi jaat you take so much pride in are migrants from this region, don't make me laugh now

 

[Tea addict]

Yes 85% of you are apart from jaats. I don't know much about UP jaats if they are similar to haryanvis jaats or not. I'm just going by what British official said about people of Haryana, they were pretty clear. And its historical fact these haryanvi jaat you take so much pride in are migrants from this region, don't make me laugh now

Lol ask our mate @CleanWell ,did he ever encountered a haryanvi jaat talking about migration? Lol they are so hardcore haryanvis that jaats have became synonymous for haryana..and UP Jaats are the closest ethnic group of haryanvi jats.
You seriously don't know anything about the people you are commenting against, so let me tell you something,, this superiority complex doesn't work on us.

@waz sir this post has no more discussion now...

Yes 85% of you are apart from jaats. I don't know much about UP jaats if they are similar to haryanvis jaats or not. I'm just going by what British official said about people of Haryana, they were pretty clear. And its historical fact these haryanvi jaat you take so much pride in are migrants from this region, don't make me laugh now

And we also know who is apart and who is our mate, so do.the jaats

 

[Kabira]

Lol ask our mate @CleanWell ,did he ever encountered a haryanvi jaat talking about migration? Lol they are so hardcore haryanvis that jaats have became synonymous for haryana..and UP Jaats are the closest ethnic group of haryanvi jats.
You seriously don't know anything about the people you are commenting against, so let me tell you something,, this superiority complex doesn't work on us.

@waz sir this post has no more discussion now...

And we also know who is apart and who is our mate, so do.the jaats

I know jaats are not completely haryanvis yet, they need some more years to become proper gangu telis.

 

[ZenBird]

I already told you some time ago when you had different id, I'm jatt from Gujrat. I'm on harappadna as well, HRP350.

Cool, I did have a different ID but don't remember talking to you, you might be confusing me for somebody else. I'm a Jatt as well with ancestry in Lahore and from Maharaja Ranjit Singh's misl.

Lol ask our mate @CleanWell ,did he ever encountered a haryanvi jaat talking about migration?

Whatever migration happened has happened so long ago that people have forgotten about it. Now Haryanvis don't even relate to Punjabis lol