Actually I have seen couple of members saying to PM me etc., and @Nihonjin1051 has invited people to meet him when he is in Pakistan in Feb-16 by letting him know through PM. So I was wondering if this PM thing is open to all.
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Actually I have seen couple of members saying to PM me etc., and @Nihonjin1051 has invited people to meet him when he is in Pakistan in Feb-16 by letting him know through PM. So I was wondering if this PM thing is open to all.
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Are you in Lahore?
Yes it is open to all, a title holder can PM any member, but if someone has disabled it TT's can't. Although mods still can, have you enabled it or disabled it. Request Nihojin to open a PM, best thing to do.Are you in Lahore?
No I am not in Lahore yar, currently my brother is posted there so I can visit Lahore anytime
.I have no clue how we enable it or disable it yar, it is just today I searched for it after reading Nihojin status, and was wondering how can I start this conversation when I don't have the option. The other time I got to use it was when one of the mods sent me a warning message
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So you never wondered what the inbox option was for? bhai app log bhi na. Unfortunately sadaNo I am not in Lahore yar, currently my brother is posted there so I can visit Lahore anytime
I have no clue how we enable it or disable it yar, it is just today I searched for it after reading Nihojin status, and was wondering how can I start this conversation when I don't have the option. The other time I got to use it was when one of the mods sent me a warning message
members can't open a PM, due to some reasons. CiaoThe propaganda was quite hilarious. I know how patriotic Kashmiris are, there are such people all over the country. Indian media stated that protests in all over Kashmir, in Gilgit city too, which was a lie. Firstly the protests aren't recent, secondly there was no protests in Gilgit city, i called my family in Gilgit to check, was an absolute lie. Secondly media would have reported it, Pamir times, K2, they don't miss anything. Propaganda, propaganda everywhere.The footage is real in sense of a few hundred idiots from the JKLF. The last time they did this in Kotli they had their teeth knocked down their throats from the locals and ran to the police for help. It seems like the police have had enough of them as well now.
They're known as the "back seat warriors" i.e. folks who have never made any contribution to the liberation of AJK. As a matter of fact, neither did their families.
No AJK person wants to be part of India, I can't believe this rubbish is even being discussed.
I remember JFLK using the name of my beloved uncle, in their propaganda leaflets. My other uncle gave their head office one call and told them "we" as in militia will be down there very fast if you don't remove his name from your literature. They associated him with independence from both Pakistan and India, which is rubbish as he died for a united Pakistan.
So you never wondered what the inbox option was for? bhai app log bhi na. Unfortunately sada
Honestly I never cared about it, when I can post in threads why would I need inbox then, reasons I have read somewhere here. Anyways thanks for the information.
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This region is an example for the whole country and the world, we must give credit to the local NGO's, especially Aga Khan foundation, simply extraordinary. Well done to all. Want to do something right, better learn from a Hunzik.
@Abu Namr @Whazzup ,@Color_Less_Sky ,@Sulman Badshah ....
Hunza Valley: Pakistan's 'real Shangri-La' is a world free from militant Islamists, poverty, pollution and a lacklustre education system
The region is beautiful, prosperous, and - thanks to charity funding - a bulwark against extremism
Men ride past on the Karakoram Highway at a viewpoint of the Rakaposhi Peak in the Karakoram mountain range in Pakistan Washington Post
Visitors to the stunningly beautiful valley, towered over by five snowcapped mountains, sometimes feel as if they are standing at the edge of the Earth — or, maybe, at the centre of it.
Either way, they often don’t feel as if they are in Pakistan, a country that struggles with poverty, pollution, Islamist militancy and a lacklustre education system, especially for women.
Once a hardscrabble Himalayan town where residents barely had enough to eat, Karimabad, in the Hunza Valley, is now one of Pakistan’s most idyllic spots – an oasis of tolerance, security and good schools. That standard of living can be traced to residents’ moderate interpretation of Islam as well as considerable support from one of the world’s largest charities.
Boys play soccer on the grounds at F.G. Boys Model High School in Karimabad, Pakistan.
Many parents in the valley say that if they had to choose, they would send their daughters to school over their sons. Nearly all families own at least a small plot of land. Residents say they cannot remember the last murder in the valley. And unlike in other parts of Pakistan, streams are not polluted with plastic bags, human waste and decaying appliances.
Such views – and protection of the surroundings – have allowed the Hunza Valley’s population to become a bulwark against Islamist extremism, despite its relative proximity to militant strongholds in Pakistan’s tribal belt and Kashmir, a disputed region that Pakistan and India have fought wars over. “Here, we have facilities, we study and there is no terrorism,” said Haider Ali, 18, watching classmates play soccer as the sun set behind Mount Rakaposhi, elevation 25,551ft.
READ MORE
Not everything is perfect, of course. Electricity deficits can keep the lights out for days at a time. A once-vibrant tourism industry collapsed after the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center. Deforestation has led to a shortage of firewood, so families must huddle in one room to stay warm when winter temperatures plunge toward zero.
A view of Pakistanís Hunza Valley from a mountain in Hunza
And some local leaders worry the community has become too dependent on charitable groups, leaving it vulnerable to a sudden reduction in aid. Such concerns are growing more pronounced as the Pakistani government, which temporarily expelled Save the Children last month, implements strict new licensing requirements for international aid groups.
But for now, Karimabad is an example of what’s possible in rural Pakistan when residents accept support from international charities and stand firm against the threats posed by militancy.
“This is the real Shangri-La,” Lars-Gunnar Wigemark, the former EU ambassador to Pakistan, said after seeing the Hunza Valley for the first time last year.
More than 90 per cent of the residents of Karimabad are Shia Ismaili Muslims, among the most moderate sects of Islam. They are followers of the Aga Khan family, viewing it as directly descended from the prophet Mohamed’s son-in-law. Prince Karim Al Husseini, a billionaire philanthropist who lives in France and goes by the title of Aga Khan IV, is the Ismailis’ spiritual leader – and a major benefactor of the Hunza Valley.
Prince Husseini’s Aga Khan Development Network has an annual budget of $600m and operates in more than 30 countries. Over the past four decades, it has worked with other charities to invest hundreds of millions in the valley, paving roads, opening schools and establishing health clinics and water treatment centres for the 65,000 residents. During the 1980s, in a bid to expand the local economy, the Aga Khan network helped persuade farmers to grow cherries and peaches along with the traditional cash crops of wheat and potatoes. Now, much of Karimabad is an orchard.
Prince Husseini is also a proponent of education. According to Pakistan’s Dawn newspaper, the Hunza Valley’s literacy rate is 77 per cent, although Karimabad residents say nearly everyone younger than 30 can read and write. The national literacy rate is about 58 per cent, with a sharp disparity between men and women.
A World Bank study published last year concluded that female literacy in parts of the Hunza Valley had reached 90 per cent, compared with 5 per cent in another mountainous district, Diamer, about five hours away by road.
Students attend the morning assembly at Hasegawa Memorial Public School and College in Karimabad, Pakistan.
“When I was in school, few could even speak English,” said Javed Ali, 41, manager of Karimabad’s Hill Top Hotel. “Now, everyone speaks it fluently.” From settlements at an elevation as high as 9,000ft, children walk up to three miles into the valley to get to school each morning.
After middle school, some female students enroll in the Aga Khan Higher Secondary School for Girls, which teaches only maths and science. Nearly all graduates go on to college, according to Zahra Alidad, the principal and a graduate of the school.
Iqbal Walji, president of the Aga Khan Council for Pakistan, said the Hunza Valley had been sheltered from the extremist ideology that has taken root in other parts of the country.
“When you have communities improving their own lives and obtaining education, it prevents easy manipulation of communities and allows them to be resilient against external forces,” Mr Walji said.
Some local leaders complain that residents have become too passive and reliant on the Aga Khan charities. “Ismailis have become absentee stakeholders,” said Izhar Ali Hunzia, a local political leader. “All decisions are centralised and made in France, and people are just waiting for others to solve their problems.”
But Ali Murad, 66, said he is grateful for financial support that helped free his and other families from the isolating grip of mountain life. When Mr Murad was a child, his family struggled to make money and ate mostly food made from wheat. Now he owns eight cherry trees, 35 apple trees and 40 apricot trees. Two of his three sons have graduated from college. One works as a chef in Dubai and the other as a Chinese interpreter.
@Abu Namr @Whazzup ,@Color_Less_Sky ,@Sulman Badshah ....
The region is beautiful, prosperous, and - thanks to charity funding - a bulwark against extremism
Men ride past on the Karakoram Highway at a viewpoint of the Rakaposhi Peak in the Karakoram mountain range in Pakistan Washington Post
Visitors to the stunningly beautiful valley, towered over by five snowcapped mountains, sometimes feel as if they are standing at the edge of the Earth — or, maybe, at the centre of it.
Either way, they often don’t feel as if they are in Pakistan, a country that struggles with poverty, pollution, Islamist militancy and a lacklustre education system, especially for women.
Once a hardscrabble Himalayan town where residents barely had enough to eat, Karimabad, in the Hunza Valley, is now one of Pakistan’s most idyllic spots – an oasis of tolerance, security and good schools. That standard of living can be traced to residents’ moderate interpretation of Islam as well as considerable support from one of the world’s largest charities.
Boys play soccer on the grounds at F.G. Boys Model High School in Karimabad, Pakistan.
Many parents in the valley say that if they had to choose, they would send their daughters to school over their sons. Nearly all families own at least a small plot of land. Residents say they cannot remember the last murder in the valley. And unlike in other parts of Pakistan, streams are not polluted with plastic bags, human waste and decaying appliances.
Such views – and protection of the surroundings – have allowed the Hunza Valley’s population to become a bulwark against Islamist extremism, despite its relative proximity to militant strongholds in Pakistan’s tribal belt and Kashmir, a disputed region that Pakistan and India have fought wars over. “Here, we have facilities, we study and there is no terrorism,” said Haider Ali, 18, watching classmates play soccer as the sun set behind Mount Rakaposhi, elevation 25,551ft.
READ MORE
Not everything is perfect, of course. Electricity deficits can keep the lights out for days at a time. A once-vibrant tourism industry collapsed after the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center. Deforestation has led to a shortage of firewood, so families must huddle in one room to stay warm when winter temperatures plunge toward zero.
A view of Pakistanís Hunza Valley from a mountain in Hunza
And some local leaders worry the community has become too dependent on charitable groups, leaving it vulnerable to a sudden reduction in aid. Such concerns are growing more pronounced as the Pakistani government, which temporarily expelled Save the Children last month, implements strict new licensing requirements for international aid groups.
But for now, Karimabad is an example of what’s possible in rural Pakistan when residents accept support from international charities and stand firm against the threats posed by militancy.
“This is the real Shangri-La,” Lars-Gunnar Wigemark, the former EU ambassador to Pakistan, said after seeing the Hunza Valley for the first time last year.
More than 90 per cent of the residents of Karimabad are Shia Ismaili Muslims, among the most moderate sects of Islam. They are followers of the Aga Khan family, viewing it as directly descended from the prophet Mohamed’s son-in-law. Prince Karim Al Husseini, a billionaire philanthropist who lives in France and goes by the title of Aga Khan IV, is the Ismailis’ spiritual leader – and a major benefactor of the Hunza Valley.
Prince Husseini’s Aga Khan Development Network has an annual budget of $600m and operates in more than 30 countries. Over the past four decades, it has worked with other charities to invest hundreds of millions in the valley, paving roads, opening schools and establishing health clinics and water treatment centres for the 65,000 residents. During the 1980s, in a bid to expand the local economy, the Aga Khan network helped persuade farmers to grow cherries and peaches along with the traditional cash crops of wheat and potatoes. Now, much of Karimabad is an orchard.
Prince Husseini is also a proponent of education. According to Pakistan’s Dawn newspaper, the Hunza Valley’s literacy rate is 77 per cent, although Karimabad residents say nearly everyone younger than 30 can read and write. The national literacy rate is about 58 per cent, with a sharp disparity between men and women.
A World Bank study published last year concluded that female literacy in parts of the Hunza Valley had reached 90 per cent, compared with 5 per cent in another mountainous district, Diamer, about five hours away by road.
Students attend the morning assembly at Hasegawa Memorial Public School and College in Karimabad, Pakistan.
“When I was in school, few could even speak English,” said Javed Ali, 41, manager of Karimabad’s Hill Top Hotel. “Now, everyone speaks it fluently.” From settlements at an elevation as high as 9,000ft, children walk up to three miles into the valley to get to school each morning.
After middle school, some female students enroll in the Aga Khan Higher Secondary School for Girls, which teaches only maths and science. Nearly all graduates go on to college, according to Zahra Alidad, the principal and a graduate of the school.
Iqbal Walji, president of the Aga Khan Council for Pakistan, said the Hunza Valley had been sheltered from the extremist ideology that has taken root in other parts of the country.
“When you have communities improving their own lives and obtaining education, it prevents easy manipulation of communities and allows them to be resilient against external forces,” Mr Walji said.
Some local leaders complain that residents have become too passive and reliant on the Aga Khan charities. “Ismailis have become absentee stakeholders,” said Izhar Ali Hunzia, a local political leader. “All decisions are centralised and made in France, and people are just waiting for others to solve their problems.”
But Ali Murad, 66, said he is grateful for financial support that helped free his and other families from the isolating grip of mountain life. When Mr Murad was a child, his family struggled to make money and ate mostly food made from wheat. Now he owns eight cherry trees, 35 apple trees and 40 apricot trees. Two of his three sons have graduated from college. One works as a chef in Dubai and the other as a Chinese interpreter.
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Very beautiful charismatic place feeling proud that this beautiful land and people also from Pakistan. NGO like Agha Khan and Eidi always prove blessing of God for Pakistan.This region is an example for the whole country and the world, we must give credit to the local NGO's, especially Aga Khan foundation, simply extraordinary. Well done to all. Want to do something right, better learn from a Hunzik.
@Abu Namr @Whazzup ,@Color_Less_Sky ,@Sulman Badshah ....
Hunza Valley: Pakistan's 'real Shangri-La' is a world free from militant Islamists, poverty, pollution and a lacklustre education system
The region is beautiful, prosperous, and - thanks to charity funding - a bulwark against extremism
Men ride past on the Karakoram Highway at a viewpoint of the Rakaposhi Peak in the Karakoram mountain range in Pakistan Washington Post
Visitors to the stunningly beautiful valley, towered over by five snowcapped mountains, sometimes feel as if they are standing at the edge of the Earth — or, maybe, at the centre of it.
Either way, they often don’t feel as if they are in Pakistan, a country that struggles with poverty, pollution, Islamist militancy and a lacklustre education system, especially for women.
Once a hardscrabble Himalayan town where residents barely had enough to eat, Karimabad, in the Hunza Valley, is now one of Pakistan’s most idyllic spots – an oasis of tolerance, security and good schools. That standard of living can be traced to residents’ moderate interpretation of Islam as well as considerable support from one of the world’s largest charities.
Boys play soccer on the grounds at F.G. Boys Model High School in Karimabad, Pakistan.
Many parents in the valley say that if they had to choose, they would send their daughters to school over their sons. Nearly all families own at least a small plot of land. Residents say they cannot remember the last murder in the valley. And unlike in other parts of Pakistan, streams are not polluted with plastic bags, human waste and decaying appliances.
Such views – and protection of the surroundings – have allowed the Hunza Valley’s population to become a bulwark against Islamist extremism, despite its relative proximity to militant strongholds in Pakistan’s tribal belt and Kashmir, a disputed region that Pakistan and India have fought wars over. “Here, we have facilities, we study and there is no terrorism,” said Haider Ali, 18, watching classmates play soccer as the sun set behind Mount Rakaposhi, elevation 25,551ft.
READ MORE
Not everything is perfect, of course. Electricity deficits can keep the lights out for days at a time. A once-vibrant tourism industry collapsed after the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center. Deforestation has led to a shortage of firewood, so families must huddle in one room to stay warm when winter temperatures plunge toward zero.
A view of Pakistanís Hunza Valley from a mountain in Hunza
And some local leaders worry the community has become too dependent on charitable groups, leaving it vulnerable to a sudden reduction in aid. Such concerns are growing more pronounced as the Pakistani government, which temporarily expelled Save the Children last month, implements strict new licensing requirements for international aid groups.
But for now, Karimabad is an example of what’s possible in rural Pakistan when residents accept support from international charities and stand firm against the threats posed by militancy.
“This is the real Shangri-La,” Lars-Gunnar Wigemark, the former EU ambassador to Pakistan, said after seeing the Hunza Valley for the first time last year.
More than 90 per cent of the residents of Karimabad are Shia Ismaili Muslims, among the most moderate sects of Islam. They are followers of the Aga Khan family, viewing it as directly descended from the prophet Mohamed’s son-in-law. Prince Karim Al Husseini, a billionaire philanthropist who lives in France and goes by the title of Aga Khan IV, is the Ismailis’ spiritual leader – and a major benefactor of the Hunza Valley.
Prince Husseini’s Aga Khan Development Network has an annual budget of $600m and operates in more than 30 countries. Over the past four decades, it has worked with other charities to invest hundreds of millions in the valley, paving roads, opening schools and establishing health clinics and water treatment centres for the 65,000 residents. During the 1980s, in a bid to expand the local economy, the Aga Khan network helped persuade farmers to grow cherries and peaches along with the traditional cash crops of wheat and potatoes. Now, much of Karimabad is an orchard.
Prince Husseini is also a proponent of education. According to Pakistan’s Dawn newspaper, the Hunza Valley’s literacy rate is 77 per cent, although Karimabad residents say nearly everyone younger than 30 can read and write. The national literacy rate is about 58 per cent, with a sharp disparity between men and women.
A World Bank study published last year concluded that female literacy in parts of the Hunza Valley had reached 90 per cent, compared with 5 per cent in another mountainous district, Diamer, about five hours away by road.
Students attend the morning assembly at Hasegawa Memorial Public School and College in Karimabad, Pakistan.
“When I was in school, few could even speak English,” said Javed Ali, 41, manager of Karimabad’s Hill Top Hotel. “Now, everyone speaks it fluently.” From settlements at an elevation as high as 9,000ft, children walk up to three miles into the valley to get to school each morning.
After middle school, some female students enroll in the Aga Khan Higher Secondary School for Girls, which teaches only maths and science. Nearly all graduates go on to college, according to Zahra Alidad, the principal and a graduate of the school.
Iqbal Walji, president of the Aga Khan Council for Pakistan, said the Hunza Valley had been sheltered from the extremist ideology that has taken root in other parts of the country.
“When you have communities improving their own lives and obtaining education, it prevents easy manipulation of communities and allows them to be resilient against external forces,” Mr Walji said.
Some local leaders complain that residents have become too passive and reliant on the Aga Khan charities. “Ismailis have become absentee stakeholders,” said Izhar Ali Hunzia, a local political leader. “All decisions are centralised and made in France, and people are just waiting for others to solve their problems.”
But Ali Murad, 66, said he is grateful for financial support that helped free his and other families from the isolating grip of mountain life. When Mr Murad was a child, his family struggled to make money and ate mostly food made from wheat. Now he owns eight cherry trees, 35 apple trees and 40 apricot trees. Two of his three sons have graduated from college. One works as a chef in Dubai and the other as a Chinese interpreter.
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Indeed, watch the provided video and this too:Education In The Mountains
Indeed, still a long way to go. And people are like oppression in GB, lol.
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I am talking in general sure there are lot of things needed to be done in this region politically and on ground for the people.
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@WAJsal Thanks for tagging me. A few thoughts on this. First when NS is abroad we should all support him because he is our Prime Minister. To quote a line out a movie I saw "You salute the rank not the man". When he is abroad he is "Pakistan Prime Minister". I am nore inclined toward PTI but the PM has my support 100% when abroad because he represents Pakistan at that point.
The other thing I would reinfoce is that the posture that the outside world adopts toward Pakistan is more influenced by geopolitics than anything our PM says or any evidence he presents. The international fora is governed by percieved self interest of each country. Not by evidence. Not by facts. Certainly not by morality. Respect and sovereignity are earned with muzzle of guns. The biggest gun right now is USA and you see how it goes around trampling over everything.
However it does not mean we just accept things as they are. I have noticed a pattern in the West. Before the powers that be decide to go after any country/group they malign a country. The so called free Western media is not as free as what you think. It is free like my two hands. Both can do anything they want but you won't see them punching myself.
So what happens is the moment the media feels the wind is blowing in certain direction they will ratchet up the negative reporting from that country. This will involve not so much as outright lies or fabrication but being selective with truth and interpreting events in certain way. A event that might be happening everywhere will be ignored by recieve full limelight in the selected country thus creating a certain perception in the public.
I now notice that Pakistan gets the second worst publicity in the media and only being overtaken by Iran. Pakistan was poorer and more backward then now back in 1980s but most reports used to be very positive. I remember reading this Readers Digest article about how innovative Pakistan imigrants were and how they breathed new life in British inner city areas. Trust me there is zero chance of such sentiment now. These days all we get is "sex grooming gangs, terrorisim" and the asumption that we have all our females in permanent state of house arrest. This in particular applies to American's who have very low opinon on Pakistan.
However we must do everything first to not give any oppurtunity and in the second instance of being ambassadors for our country. Most people are not impressed by number of soldiers or aircraft we have. History, culture, sport are the currency of "soft power". We must do everything what we can do overcome the pitch and shrill of vast numbers of Indian ex-pats living in the West. Sometimes watch Farooq Zakaria of CNN is one such mouthpiece and a consumate Pakistan hater.
And I have to say people of Northern areas are beautiful in their thoughts, in their culture and in the region where they live. I won't hide the fact that I use use G-B, Pakistan ancient history ( Mohenjo Daro, Harrapa, Taxila, Greek Gandhara kingdoms, our glorious Islamic heritage ) to show the "soft" side to Pakistan. What is more it works wonders.
However often the problem is our "crown jewels" that show the proud pedigree of Pakistani people like Harrapa or Taxila or our Gandhara have been stolen by those Tamil, Telangana, Maratha, Bengali and the rest from across the border who themselves have nothing but to show nudity and jungles.
An example can be seen on this thread below I was reading few days ago. @Rafi who apparently comes from Lahore was talking proudly about his ancestor Porus who fought gallantly against Alexander the Great which is still studied and talked about in Western world. If you read the thread you will see how such a simple thing as recognizing his past elecited the response from Indians. It was like he had smoked some beehive.
A Statue for A Pakistani Punjabi Hero.....Porus
Ps. Football is the game our youngsters should learn to play. I see it is quite popular in G-B. It is man's sport. If you have ever played it you will know ten minutes and your lungs feel they are about to explode. Your feel like your standing on legs that are wobbling like jelly.
The other thing I would reinfoce is that the posture that the outside world adopts toward Pakistan is more influenced by geopolitics than anything our PM says or any evidence he presents. The international fora is governed by percieved self interest of each country. Not by evidence. Not by facts. Certainly not by morality. Respect and sovereignity are earned with muzzle of guns. The biggest gun right now is USA and you see how it goes around trampling over everything.
However it does not mean we just accept things as they are. I have noticed a pattern in the West. Before the powers that be decide to go after any country/group they malign a country. The so called free Western media is not as free as what you think. It is free like my two hands. Both can do anything they want but you won't see them punching myself.
So what happens is the moment the media feels the wind is blowing in certain direction they will ratchet up the negative reporting from that country. This will involve not so much as outright lies or fabrication but being selective with truth and interpreting events in certain way. A event that might be happening everywhere will be ignored by recieve full limelight in the selected country thus creating a certain perception in the public.
I now notice that Pakistan gets the second worst publicity in the media and only being overtaken by Iran. Pakistan was poorer and more backward then now back in 1980s but most reports used to be very positive. I remember reading this Readers Digest article about how innovative Pakistan imigrants were and how they breathed new life in British inner city areas. Trust me there is zero chance of such sentiment now. These days all we get is "sex grooming gangs, terrorisim" and the asumption that we have all our females in permanent state of house arrest. This in particular applies to American's who have very low opinon on Pakistan.
However we must do everything first to not give any oppurtunity and in the second instance of being ambassadors for our country. Most people are not impressed by number of soldiers or aircraft we have. History, culture, sport are the currency of "soft power". We must do everything what we can do overcome the pitch and shrill of vast numbers of Indian ex-pats living in the West. Sometimes watch Farooq Zakaria of CNN is one such mouthpiece and a consumate Pakistan hater.
And I have to say people of Northern areas are beautiful in their thoughts, in their culture and in the region where they live. I won't hide the fact that I use use G-B, Pakistan ancient history ( Mohenjo Daro, Harrapa, Taxila, Greek Gandhara kingdoms, our glorious Islamic heritage ) to show the "soft" side to Pakistan. What is more it works wonders.
However often the problem is our "crown jewels" that show the proud pedigree of Pakistani people like Harrapa or Taxila or our Gandhara have been stolen by those Tamil, Telangana, Maratha, Bengali and the rest from across the border who themselves have nothing but to show nudity and jungles.
An example can be seen on this thread below I was reading few days ago. @Rafi who apparently comes from Lahore was talking proudly about his ancestor Porus who fought gallantly against Alexander the Great which is still studied and talked about in Western world. If you read the thread you will see how such a simple thing as recognizing his past elecited the response from Indians. It was like he had smoked some beehive.
A Statue for A Pakistani Punjabi Hero.....Porus
Ps. Football is the game our youngsters should learn to play. I see it is quite popular in G-B. It is man's sport. If you have ever played it you will know ten minutes and your lungs feel they are about to explode. Your feel like your standing on legs that are wobbling like jelly.
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Great post.
I completely agree with you. He is representing us, if we don't support him who will.
Got the point, but we should have humiliated India, in front of the world, make the evidence public. Best way was through the speech. We have neutralized most of their network within the country, should look to neutralize them in Afghanistan. News of RAW agents caught, what do you think they were doing? contributing to the economy? there is a limit to everything; whilst on the other hand they took the chance to malign us and portrayed us as a terrorism exporting country. Absolutely intolerable.
That truly is sad to see, we should fix our home, care not what others think of us and clean up Pakistan and make it stable and strong.
Will do.
I play Football. Yes it is a very popular sports in GB, especially in the areas where i am from, i know people who prefer Football over Cricket. There are tournaments every now and then. See they have grounds everywhere, all villages have teams, regular team, A team. The winner gets a price. It's much organised than one can imagine. Terrific scenes.
This place where i am from: Yasin. There is a Football ground near the river, well made out. We would play there everyday, wasn't a day i wouldn't come home sweating. One thing there is no such thing as rules. Viscous stuff. Much like Polo, Polo is like the heart of Gilgit. Shandur has it's own history, Polo in GB has it's own history. Do read the referenced link i provided you.
Hope you watched both the provided videos. a slap on everyone's face who constantly state that there is oppression in GB.
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