Pakistani & Chinese air forces kick off, Shaheen III (2014) exercise.

[Informant]

Where is the question of Arrogance???? MKIs are mightiest platform in Asia. There is absolutely no doubt about that.

Are you even aware of the EW capabilities of the Block 52?

 

[cirr]

 

[Windjammer]

We have Made many surgical strikes with old net in 71 and 99 and some with old planes vintage plane flew from Vikrant. Do not worry MKI is not for surgical strikes in Pakistan.

So i guess last time the MKI must have got lost and ended up on the wrong side of the border only to be clipped around the ears and shown the door.

Indian Fighter Planes Violate Pakistani Airspace

By M. Hussain

The Indian Air Force (IAF) has violated Pakistani airspace and were intercepted by the Pakistan Air Force. The incidence took place on the 13th of December, at midnight. The military establishment in Pakistan is considering this to be a serious violation and PAF air bases are on full alert.

2 Indian Su-30 MkI ingressed in the Lahore sector, Pakistan's second most important city after Karachi. 3 Indian Mirage 2000H ingressed in the Kashmir sector. The Su-30 Mki "FLANKER" were intercepted by 3 F-16s and 3 F-7 combat aircraft from the Pakistan Air Force, while the Mirage 2000Hs were intercepted by 2 F-16s and 2 Mirages The intercepts were made within 4 miles of entering Pakistani territory, and the intruders were escorted out of Pakistani airspace. According to the PAF, the Indian aircraft were fully armed.

The Indians are in violation of agreements to not send combat aircraft within 10 km of their own boundaries. The simultaneous nature of the intrusion, in the middle of the night, being fully armed clearly indicates it was no mistake, and is replicative of Israeli tactics with Syria.

The Indian Air Force may use this opportunity to gather EW and radar signatures as well as measure the intercept response time and location. They may seek out information on new assets added by the Pakistani side, such as the TPS-77 radars. Both the Su-30 Mk I and the Mirage-2000Hs are equiped with EW equipment that could be used for such a purpose.


The Information Minister, Sherry Rehman, claimed that it was a mistake from the Indian side, which directly contradicts the PAF, and one may add, logic. In a joint press conference with the British PM, Zardari echoed this response and said Indian violation was a technical fault of IAF. While PAF denies that it was fault.

Grande Strategy (Edited)

UPDATE | Dec 14, 2008, AM: TROOPS ON THE MOVE?

A number of people travelling between Lahore and Rawalpindi over the past two days have reported that a heavy redeployment by the army was under way.

“Long convoys of military trucks are heading towards Lahore from Jehlum,” Jawad Khan, a motorist, told Dawn.
UPDATE | Dec 14, 2008, PM: Aircraft Descriptions:

Lahore: 2x Indian Air Force Su-30 (armed) – intercepted and escorted out by 3x Pakistan Air Force F-16s and 3x F-7s
Muzaffarabad: 3x Indian Air Force Mirage 2000 (armed) – intercepted and escorted out by 2x Pakistan Air Force F-16s and 2x F-7s.
UPDATE | Dec 14, 2008, PM: Emergency declared at Shorkot, Sarghoda airbases

SARGHODA: Emergency has been declared at Shorkot and Sarghoda airbases on Sunday after India violated Pakistan air spaces twice on Saturday by sending its fire jets.

According to sources, Indian Air Force sent its fighter jets into Pakistan air spaces on Saturday in Lahore and Kashmir areas which were forced to go back by Pakistani fighter jets.
UPDATE | Dec 14, 2008, PM: Army Confirms Artillery Movement

LAHORE: The Pakistan Army moved medium and heavy military artillery vehicles from the Lahore Cantonment area to the north of Punjab on Saturday, causing a scare in the minds of the general public about an eminent offensive with India.

However, the Director-General of the Inter-Services Public Relations, Major-General Athar Abbas, described the military movement as being part of routine winter military exercises.

A statement issued by the ISPR said the 10th Corps was returning to the Lahore Cantonment after completing its winter exercises while the 11th Corps was moving to Jhelum to replace it.

Earlier, The News reported that hundreds of medium and heavy artillery vehicles had moved out of the Lahore Cantonment area along the Motorway north of Punjab. It also said that there was movement of artillery from the Tilla Range in Jhelum towards Lahore. (ANI)

 

[Myth_buster_1]

but according to many Pakistani Members, Chinese designed and developed JF 17 rocks.



Certainly with Radar Range of More than 150 KM and missile like R 77 and Astra, It can shoot down both the plane very easily.

Astra is underdevelopment and we have better AAM Aim-120C5 and we also have SD-10.

 

[Gryphon]

Mateen Haider
24 May 2014

Air Chief Marshal Tahir Rafique Butt witnesses Shaheen-III drills with Pakistani and Chinese officers at an operational base in Pakistan on Saturday. – Photo provided by author

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan and China have begun their third joint air exercises, code named “Shaheen-III” at an operational base in Pakistan, a PAF spokesman told Dawn.com on Saturday.

“A contingent of People’s Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF), comprises combat pilots, air defence controllers and technical ground crew besides a Pakistan Air force (PAF) contingent are participating in the exercises,” said Air commodore Tariq Mehmood.

He said the PLAAF contingent is comprised of J-10 and J-7 combat aircraft where as JF-17 Thunder, Mirage and F7 PG combat aircraft of PAF are participating in the exercise.

Shaheen-III is the third in a series of multidimensional joint air exercises with PLAAF conducted annually on alternate basis in both the countries. Shaheen-II was conducted in China last year.

“The Air Exercises between the two professional Air Forces would not only cement the already existing friendly bonds but would also give an opportunity to learn from each other’s combat experience,” the PAF spokerem quoted Air Chief Marshal Tahir Rafique Butt as saying while witnessing the exercises.

The air exercise is being conducted in “near real scenario” and will provide an opportunity to combat crew of both the air forces to accustom themselves with the latest concepts and practices, Butt commented.

The air chief expressed his satisfaction on the professional acumen of the participating combat pilots and technicians of the air exercise.

Air Commodore Mehmood said the Pakistan Air Force has been regularly participating in a number of international air exercises with some of the best air forces across the globe, including United States Air Force (USAF), Italian Air Force, Turkish Air Force (TuAF) and other allied countries.

Pakistan, China air forces begin joint drills “Shaheen-III” - Pakistan - DAWN.COM

 

[Rafi]

The increasing number of exercises with foreign forces is good, and this is across the three forces.

Pakistan has resumed training with the US, especially Officer courses, and Special Forces, including SSGN with Navy Seals.

 

[chauvunist]

Glad to hear that JF 17 also took part in the Exercise...

 

[Rafi]

With 50 megaton Electromagnetic pulse generating from Your rear end after eating excessive Daal and Hari mirch,you don't even need MKI's to protect your borders..

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOOOOOLLLLLLL

Wouldn't want to be anywhere near that 50 megaton pulse when it goes off.

 

[Side-Winder]

 

[Windjammer]

Air Chief witnesses Pak-China Int’l Air Exercise ‘Shaheen-III’

Tahir Rafique Butt expresses satisfaction on professional acumen of participating combat pilots and technicians of the Air Exercise.
Chief of the Air Staff, Pakistan Air Force Tahir Rafique Butt witnessed the last phase of Pakistan-China Joint International Air Exercise “Shaheen-III” at an Operational Air Base of Pakistan Air Force on Saturday.

He expressed satisfaction on the professional acumen of the participating combat pilots and technicians of the Air Exercise.

He said the Air Exercises between the two professional Air Forces would not only cement the already existing friendly bonds, but would also give an opportunity to learn from each other’s combat experience.

Air Chief said “Shaheen-III” which is being conducted in near real scenario will provide an opportunity to combat crew of both Air Forces to acquaint themselves with the latest employment concepts and practices.

People’s Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) contingent is comprised of J-10 and J-7 combat aircraft where as PAF JF-17 Thunder, Mirage and F7 PG combat aircraft are participating in this multi-dimensional Joint Air Exercise.

“Shaheen-III”, which is the third in the series of Joint Air Exercises with PLAAF, is conducted annually on alternate basis in both countries. “Shaheen-II” was conducted in China last year.

Radio Pakistan

 

[Side-Winder]

No f-16s??

 

[Windjammer]

No f-16s??

Not officially.... but.....who knows .

 

[My-Analogous]

Are you even aware of the EW capabilities of the Block 52?

These Indians only learn propaganda news from their media house and according to them even SU30 MKI is superior to All Russians Inventory

 

[GORKHALI]

So i guess last time the MKI must have got lost and ended up on the wrong side of the border only to be clipped around the ears and shown the door.

Chest thumping again here,we shown the doors to MKI..blah blah ...Just one point,MKI was BVR enabled since inception,while PAF -F16 received AMRAAM only by July 2010.What you guys flying with then, Chinese PL 10 on F16 ?? PL10 on F7P ??
You know only a fool armed with a knife(WVR) going to fight with a long range .50 calibre sniper(BVR) on field.
@sancho @Abingdonboy
@Topic, Jf17 ,Dogfight with J 10?

 

[Windjammer]

Actually its not,Uncle ji always keep an eye where you guys flying.

Keep yourself amused with that. Actually your Uncle would be keen to find out how their equipment performs Vis-a Vis best of Chinese.

Chest thumping again here,we shown the doors to MKI..blah blah ...Just one point,MKI was BVR enabled since inception,while PAF -F16 received AMRAAM only by July 2010.What you guys flying with then, Chinese PL 10 on F16 ?? PL10 on F7P ??
You know only a fool armed with a knife(WVR) going to fight with a long range .50 calibre sniper(BVR) on field.
@sancho @Abingdonboy
@Topic, Jf17 ,Dogfight with J 10?

PAF may have inducted the AMRAAM in 2010 or whatever but is that or rather was that the only BVR option available to PAF, besides the MKIs didn't exactly come for a dogfight...or did they........do some home work before indulging into a debate.