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Pakistan to install air defence system at Pak-Afghan border

Air Defence System another joke by pakistani security establishment
actually pakistani army in order to save their skin and salvage their hubris from the ignominious incident of OBL is trying to bluff the nation with such gimmicks
watch kamran shahid saying that in press conference conducted by DGMO general nadeem he claimed the attack on salala was a blunt naked aggression and when asked what is the solution then DGMO opined we cannot fight nato and american technology
so if you cannot fight there technology them what good you make by installing air defence system
Some times reading the whole article helps, there is no doubt Pakistan cannot fight both NATO and USA but who is talking war in any case. As the PA Officer stressed, this is a defensive move for the safety of the soldiers deployed on the border.

“Primarily it will be early warning systems, but there will be certain weapons deployed in certain areas,” deputy military spokesman Brig. Gen. Azmat Ali said Friday, stressing that the move was defensive rather than offensive in nature.
“It became very embarrassing for our troops. They were killed like sitting ducks,” he said, adding that the decision had been taken in response to pressure from the troops themselves. “If there is another attack, they should have something to defend themselves.
 
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Pakistan has deployed the latest Chinese variant of S-300 missile & radar systems that were quietly and urgently provided by China after Abbatabad raid. These are believed to be able to detect stealth Jets at maximum shooting range.
If Pakistan ever uses such a missile against NATOs (American) air assets and manages to bring down a couple of aircraft, then all hell would break loose with all Pakistani missile sites being targeted not only by aircraft but cruise missiles from the US 5th Fleet operating in the Arabian Sea. Shooting down a chopper is different. But you wouldn't need an S-300 to down it, would you?

Apart from shoulder fired SAMs and AA guns, using any other weapon system like the S-300 against NATO aircraft is a bad idea!
 
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If Pakistan ever uses such a missile against NATOs (American) air assets and manages to bring down a couple of aircraft, then all hell would break loose with all Pakistani missile sites being targeted not only by aircraft but cruise missiles from the US 5th Fleet operating in the Arabian Sea. Shooting down a chopper is different. But you wouldn't need an S-300 to down it, would you?

Apart from shoulder fired SAMs and AA guns, using any other weapon system like the S-300 against NATO aircraft is a bad idea!

Like u did after Mumbai attacks :P :P :P.
Wash ur face.......Drones are stopped, US\Nato moved back their troops from front line with PAK \ Afgan Border
 
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HQ-9 also deployed in Beijing Olypmics games. :azn:

Please look at the great example of heavy Air-Defences in China- ¾üÊÂÂÛ̳

This is just to diversify the inventory for high altitude interceptors and increase the numbers. I was never going to reveal this sensitive information online, but some punk revealed this information long time ago on the net so i guess its safe to talk about it now. At current, Pakistan has deployed FT2000 that consists of anti radiation missiles and the regular HQ-9. HQ-18 are more advanced and a joint team which consisted of Army and Air Force personal were extremely impressed with the performance of HQ-18 during trials. The will is there but the funding is not to acquire HQ-18, lets see what happens.

Norinco A-100 MRL is one good example, PA handle properly whether need to display in public or some hardware don't. We must advise PA and PAF, please don't make empty spaces in Western borders, they can attack anytime.

The HQ-9 based complex(multiple quick deployment sites) was "soft announced" by an Urdu daily some two years back. so its not classified.. but its not disclosed either.

Sometimes urdu newspaper is full of jokes and many contradicting. Some of us don't rely on unreliable sources (i.e Urdu papers).
 
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Really good point. Electronic jamming is where the American's are leaps and bounds better than the rest of the world. Due to the nature of the tech, it is also easier to hide and be secretive about. No nation in the modern world has been able to withstand it so far.

While we may see a massive gap in the capabilities of Pakistan and Iraq & Libya; from the top...where the Americans are looking from, it all looks the same...I know that sounds crude, but the Americans will only find Pakistan a worthy adversary, relative to other third world countries...not in the grand scheme of things. It may take them a few of weeks extra to gain air superiority, but that's hardly the kind of odds you want to play against.

Equally, I have yet to understand what will be gained if we were to shoot down a NATO aircraft...aside from a further deterioration of relations that may lead to a greater conflict Pakistan can't win. Closing off border to NATO supplies is Pakistan's greatest trump card, any military action against a force so powerful is bound to blow up in our face.

If its all for the sake of protecting our dignity...a more fruitful endeavor maybe, to change our pathetic leadership that has allowed us to end up in this situation.

And you think its our Leader ship that's pathetic :whistle:

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If Pakistan ever uses such a missile against NATOs (American) air assets and manages to bring down a couple of aircraft, then all hell would break loose with all Pakistani missile sites being targeted not only by aircraft but cruise missiles from the US 5th Fleet operating in the Arabian Sea. Shooting down a chopper is different. But you wouldn't need an S-300 to down it, would you?

Apart from shoulder fired SAMs and AA guns, using any other weapon system like the S-300 against NATO aircraft is a bad idea!

Ahhhh so true so if India was attacked by USA you guys will simply bend over and say please cmmon over.
 
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If Pakistan ever uses such a missile against NATOs (American) air assets and manages to bring down a couple of aircraft, then all hell would break loose with all Pakistani missile sites being targeted not only by aircraft but cruise missiles from the US 5th Fleet operating in the Arabian Sea. Shooting down a chopper is different. But you wouldn't need an S-300 to down it, would you?

Apart from shoulder fired SAMs and AA guns, using any other weapon system like the S-300 against NATO aircraft is a bad idea!

as always NATO say ziada bhartiyon to takleef ho rahi hay
 
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If Pakistan ever uses such a missile against NATOs (American) air assets and manages to bring down a couple of aircraft, then all hell would break loose with all Pakistani missile sites being targeted not only by aircraft but cruise missiles from the US 5th Fleet operating in the Arabian Sea. Shooting down a chopper is different. But you wouldn't need an S-300 to down it, would you?

Apart from shoulder fired SAMs and AA guns, using any other weapon system like the S-300 against NATO aircraft is a bad idea!
the missiles will be there to destroy anything that enters pakistan airspace without permission, that is not an act of war. if the US does what you suggest then that will be an act of war, and the US will have some long term consequences. it will force pakistan to get sophisticated anti ship missiles from China
 
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Remember this image? Its Indian Mig-21 shot down by Pak shoulder launch Anza missile they can easily destroy US choppers and A-10s.
mig21_feb5.jpg

Before that they made hundreds of sorties and bombed. That Mig incident was one in a thousand, incidental hit. Even some anti aircraft guns would have been done better than this.

US coppers has advanced counter measures against SAM systems. What about drones?

deploying shoulder-to-air missiles
Thats a new technology. :)
 
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If Pakistan ever uses such a missile against NATOs (American) air assets and manages to bring down a couple of aircraft, then all hell would break loose with all Pakistani missile sites being targeted not only by aircraft but cruise missiles from the US 5th Fleet operating in the Arabian Sea. Shooting down a chopper is different. But you wouldn't need an S-300 to down it, would you?

Apart from shoulder fired SAMs and AA guns, using any other weapon system like the S-300 against NATO aircraft is a bad idea!

What do you suggest our response be against Helicopters that cannot be shot down with MANPADS? Let them do whatever they want? Besides, if SAM sites are attacked by any force of the world, shouldn't Pakistan's natural response be to target the AirField (Ground or Naval) with enough firepower to annihilate it? Are we not free to use any weapon at our disposal to defend ourselves?

What would India do?
 
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actual missiles like hatf babur should be deployed near the border and the fj-17 squadrons should be put on high alert at least!!

anti aircraft guns should also be put on large numbers

the border area should be mines and lined with barbed wires
 
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i know this joke since day one PA is not going to do any thing . wait few hours drone attack is on the way .mark my bloody words
 
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14 augst manane ke liye jo topain use ke jate hain, use bhi more useful purpose ke liye laga diya jae :angry:
 
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i know this joke since day one PA is not going to do any thing . wait few hours drone attack is on the way .mark my bloody words

Though I am always trying to be optimistic about Pakistan and our Protectors but seeing the events happening for so long with no change expected soon. Still can't understand why we are so positive about our Armed Forces when 40 years back these were the same forces who shamelessly surrendered. I don't expect any good from their side. Only Allah can save us.

Tks
 
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Before that they made hundreds of sorties and bombed. That Mig incident was one in a thousand, incidental hit. Even some anti aircraft guns would have been done better than this.

US coppers has advanced counter measures against SAM systems. What about drones?


Thats a new technology. :)

hahahaha .... really !

you are allowed to say that if you are Mallu or Kerela !
 
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