Pakistan to acquire six submarines from China

[TOPGUN]

Is it able to shot off missles ( cruise missles ) ?

 

[SAUD-404]

I think the picture you are referring to i.e. Post #163, is a Song Class Sub

Nope the sub that i referred earlier it was a Russian sub design

 

[SAUD-404]

Submarines are not the best deterrence against Indian Aircraft Carriers but Chinese 'Carrier-Killer' Missile is !!!

Pakistan should get this 'Carrier-Killer' Missile as soon as possible

Nope ! AIP sub like Song class and Yuan class subs are the best deterrence against aircraft carriers.

And about carrier killer missile we will test it in the near future (inshall'ah) its also a cheap deterrence and some how effective if you do cost/benefit analysis against any other way of sinking a carrier

 

[Yeti]

carrier killer missile's are over hyped all you have to do is detect them via Sats then signal the ship to move out the way

 

[SBD-3]

carrier killer missile's are over hyped all you have to do is detect them via Sats then signal the ship to move out the way

....Well honestly, PN doesnt have any so it can sit pretty, IN on the contrary, will be having a few. On a serious note, China also has antispace capability. So probably they will first knock out all that India has in Space to virtually blind it. And lastly, carrier is not a sports car which can move 550 KMPH on sea surface. DF-21 has Antiship warhead indicating capability to hit moving target and they know it fairly that ACC is not a FAC which would have more survivability.

 

[tanlixiang28776]

Chinese Submarines Seek More Quiet in deep blue sea|China Military Power Mashup

This is a pretty strange recent analysis.

Hans are old news and at least 5 confirmed. At least 2 Shang class were confirmed with more unconfirmed. 095 is also comng in just a few years.

At least 7 Yuan confirmed as well.

For something so recent it sure has a lot of inaccuracies.

 

[Yeti]

....Well honestly, PN doesnt have any so it can sit pretty, IN on the contrary, will be having a few. On a serious note, China also has antispace capability. So probably they will first knock out all that India has in Space to virtually blind it. And lastly, carrier is not a sports car which can move 550 KMPH on sea surface. DF-21 has Antiship warhead indicating capability to hit moving target and they know it fairly that ACC is not a FAC which would have more survivability.

The first point to make is that (unless it is using a nuclear warhead) it is going to need terminal guidance to fine tune the warhead’s trajectory as it reenters the Eearth’s atmosphere. This is true regardless of how well China needs the position of the target carrier—the only target worthwhile shooting at. Consider the scenario China’s military must assume: as soon as a DF-21D is launched (and hence detected by US early warning satellites) every carrier anywhere near the missile takes off at maximum speed in some random direction. If the DF-21D is launched at maximum range (again something China’s military planners would need to assume), each ship could be some 13 km away from where it was a the time of launch. The DF-21D would have to correct for that change sometime during its flight. The most logical place to correct for those changes are sometime after the end of the boost phase since the target carriers—the only targets worth shooting at—can zig and zag at anytime.

 

[tanlixiang28776]

The first point to make is that (unless it is using a nuclear warhead) it is going to need terminal guidance to fine tune the warhead’s trajectory as it reenters the Eearth’s atmosphere. This is true regardless of how well China needs the position of the target carrier—the only target worthwhile shooting at. Consider the scenario China’s military must assume: as soon as a DF-21D is launched (and hence detected by US early warning satellites) every carrier anywhere near the missile takes off at maximum speed in some random direction. If the DF-21D is launched at maximum range (again something China’s military planners would need to assume), each ship could be some 13 km away from where it was a the time of launch. The DF-21D would have to correct for that change sometime during its flight. The most logical place to correct for those changes are sometime after the end of the boost phase since the target carriers—the only targets worth shooting at—can zig and zag at anytime.

I've seen this argument word for word before and it wasn't from you.

Are you just copying and pasting someone else's work?

At least quote them if you're going to.

 

[Super Falcon]

well we need sub which can destroy air targets when it is beneath the sea and also capable to destory any enemy ship and be able to be stealthy as well and hard to detect for enemy

 

[Yeti]

I've seen this argument word for word before and it wasn't from you.

Are you just copying and pasting someone else's work?

At least quote them if you're going to.

When did i say it my work?

 

[tanlixiang28776]

When did i say it my work?

How would we know unless you quote it?

 

[Yeti]

How would we know unless you quote it?

It was just for reference on the hype posed by this type of missile

 

[tanlixiang28776]

It was just for reference on the hype posed by this type of missile

Without quoting it is regarded as plagiarism.

I agree it is hyped for the US navy. Any other navy would be an easy target though.

 

[Silk]

Nuclear subs are difficult to detect cause they have huge energy reserves but still need food supply. The main problem is that the nuclear station uses steam to power generator. That steam produces a lot of sound. And you still have dangerous system which can be a big problem during real war. The same nuclear generators (4-5) are inside an aircraft carrier. Just think what happens if you hit that one with a BM. You end up having a bigger problem then Tokyo.

 

[Penguin]

I've seen this argument word for word before and it wasn't from you.

Are you just copying and pasting someone else's work?

At least quote them if you're going to.

Uhn, how would you know who was who on the internet at different fora anyway?