Pakistan terror wave sparks rare criticism of Saudi Arabia!

[Norwegian]

guess it will also solve leftist urban terrorist problem in Karachi and leftist nationalist firaris slaughtering people in Baluchistan ??? or doses it not qualify as radicalism and terrorism also evident by 21st amendment.double standards and propaganda by roshan khyals

IMO, Pakistan started its radicalism course after Bhutto's military coup, especially after he used his rigged parliament to enact religious bigotry laws against Qadianis and other minorities of Pakistan!

 

[pkuser2k12]

IMO, Pakistan started its radicalism course after Bhutto's military coup, especially after he used his rigged parliament to enact religious bigotry laws against Qadianis and other minorities of Pakistan!

Pakistan is Islamic republic with Islamic constitution

some will say there was coup by Shahed Liaqat Ali khan who was pm during Karardad e Maqasid jitna pechay jatay jaen gay utna coup leftist batatay jaen gay 1971 b coup tha 1956 b coup that 1948 b coup that etc etc

Syria was secular but shia sunni rift tore it apart there was no "evil constitution" like Pakistan there wherever there are muslims unfortunately the shia sunni rift appears partly of the games that is played by Saudis and GCC on most part and replied by Iranians for one or another reason so don't blame the constitution of Pakistan

the leftist secular and liberal parties in karachi have killed thousands in sindh and baloch firaris in Baluchistan you dont see liberals chest thumping there rather they have soft spot for mqm,anp,ppp,baloch separates etc etc even after baldia town no major hopla .

double standards are set here as media is dominated by leftist garbage who are mum of these killings focusing only on TTP while ignoring the plague that is in karachi/sindh and Baluchistan even more dangerous as backed by parties with vote bank and when every there is action against them they play the "nakhapay card"/"down with Pakistan" .

 

[airmarshal]

Not only this funding be stopped but these royals who come to our country and destroy our habitat by hunting precious birds must also be stopped.

Pakistan should stop acting as slaves of these royals and its not a playground for their ideologies. After all, its innocent Pakistanis who get killed.

What concessions do arab countries give to Pakistanis after this ***-kissing? Every other day a Pakistani is executed in Saudi Arabia. Just go to any arab country and see for yourself the level of discrimination and ill treatment of Pakistani migrant workers.

 

[Icewolf]

Support making Pakistan a secular country. PAKISTANIs deserve better than this

 

[pkuser2k12]

Support making Pakistan a secular country. PAKISTANIs deserve better than this

Pakistan desesrve better than ^^^^
pehlay hi secular samhalay nahi sbhaltay mqq,anp,ppp,sindh nationalists,balochi separatists thanks but no thanks....

 

[Icewolf]

Pakistan desesrve better than ^^^^

pehlay hi secular samhalay nahi sbhaltay mqq,anp,ppp,sindh nationalists,balochi separatists thanks but no thanks....

Who said seculars only support MQM, ANP, PPP, Sindhi and Balochi nationalists?

Im a staunch supporter of secularism and I hate all of those parties.

In that case we could say Islamic fundamentalism (TTP, etc) only support radically conservative parties in Pakistan. But we can see that TTP hates JUI-F, PTI, PML-N, etc.


Anyways, I think none of the parties in Pakistan are actually secular. Pakistan needs a new constitution definently.

 

[Gandh brandi]

Not just filtering the funding but the migrant workers etc. also need to be scrutinized. I've personally seen one poor muslim from my village go there to work and after returning he's like a totally different person. Previously the guy was free minded albeit god fearing. He went to Ijtema every year. He was like any other bangali in our hindu majority village. But now, he's like if you don't wear Arab clothing you ain't a Muslim, you have to go to Hajj to be a pure Muslim etc. We kids loved to hang out with his two sons and a daughter and his wife who made the best 'khasi rejala' I ever tasted. But now he doesn't let any hindu near his house or land. We don't see his children anymore either. I live in Dhaka but last time I went home I heard his wife left him along with his daughter because she couldn't stand his authoritarian attitude and physical abuse. And I know it's SA's fault cause there are some others who work in Oman and they didn't get radicalised. -__-

 

[pkuser2k12]

Who said seculars only support MQM, ANP, PPP, Sindhi and Balochi nationalists?

Im a staunch supporter of secularism and I hate all of those parties.

In that case we could say Islamic fundamentalism (TTP, etc) only support radically conservative parties in Pakistan. But we can see that TTP hates JUI-F, PTI, PML-N, etc.


Anyways, I think none of the parties in Pakistan are actually secular. Pakistan needs a new constitution definently.

it is a good trick when secular do the same they dont represent secularism but when TTP fundos do it its Islam and the constitution
terror is due to weak wright of the state and corrupt parties who have zero vision and are interested in filling pockets no work can be done properly with this approch
changing constitution will change nada
where as the country has been run by non religious parties or dictators for most of the time with same results
secular syria ki example day di mayn nay wahan tu nahi tha similar constitution ka masala phir b tabah ho gaey syrians Allah rid them of ISIS plague

 

[Norwegian]

Not just filtering the funding but the migrant workers etc. also need to be scrutinized. I've personally seen one poor muslim from my village go there to work and after returning he's like a totally different person. Previously the guy was free minded albeit god fearing. He went to Ijtema every year. He was like any other bangali in our hindu majority village. But now, he's like if you don't wear Arab clothing you ain't a Muslim, you have to go to Hajj to be a pure Muslim etc. We kids loved to hang out with his two sons and a daughter and his wife who made the best 'khasi rejala' I ever tasted. But now he doesn't let any hindu near his house or land. We don't see his children anymore either. I live in Dhaka but last time I went home I heard his wife left him along with his daughter because she couldn't stand his authoritarian attitude and physical abuse. And I know it's SA's fault cause there are some others who work in Oman and they didn't get radicalised. -__-

In sum, your Bengali friend was completely ARABIZED by his few years of experience in Saudi Arabia. And then they criticize the West for globalizing the world in its "evil" values

 

[Gandh brandi]

In sum, your Bengali friend was completely ARABIZED by his few years of experience in Saudi Arabia. And then they criticize the West for globalizing the world in its "evil" values

PoS zionist and evangelical usa is the main problem. I think Britain was cunning as ****. IMO it helped to create the modern state of Israel in order to flush out those all-mongering jews out of their country.

 

[Icewolf]

it is a good trick when secular do the same they dont represent secularism but when TTP fundos do it its Islam and the constitution
terror is due weak wright of the state and corrupt parties who have zero vision and are interested in filling pockets changing constitution will change nada
where as the country has been run by non religious parties or dictators for most of the time with same results

I agree with you, TTP doesn't represent modern Islam from a moderate Muslim family. But it does represent what's so wrong about our society. These guys represent our growing fundamentalism and how easy it is to trick a human being to get brainwashed into the cult called Wahhabism/Deobandi/Salafi.

In many ways we have also eased their way of going into these cults. Pakistan has structured the entire society to be sympathetic with these cults in order to not be seen as a "infidel" and be taken down by the same laws Pakistan invented.

We need to restructure our entire society to be understanding and tolerant of other religions or notions that may be different from ours. I think this will be the most difficult task that Pakistan will have to face in the 21st century. We also need to moderate and regulate Madrassahs. We could bring all of these Madrassahs under state control and have them all controlled by a religious leader which is also state controlled. These Madrassahs will teach theology and also teach STEM curriculum that is so basic around the world. That is the only way Pakistan can succeed.

Also, yes we really do need to change the constitution. Minorities can't be elected for heads of anything, Ahmadis are literally seen as half animals, virtually no checks or balances within the governments branches, Stone Age Hudood Ordinances and the like? Serious flaws in the Constitution. You'd seriously have to be simple minded to not want to change this pos Constitution. I wipe my *** with the PAKISTANI constitution. It means nothing to me.

Also Syria is messed up because of centuries of Shia-Sunni strife in there territory which was recently again ignited by the retards we know as Islamic fundamentalists.

 

[Norwegian]

PoS zionist and evangelical usa is the main problem. I think Britain was cunning as ****. IMO it helped to create the modern state of Israel in order to flush out those all-mongering jews out of their country.

Nobody can "help" create a country and then guarantee its success in the long run. Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Emirates were all creation of British as well. Not all turned out to be a success

 

[Gandh brandi]

Nobody can "help" create a country and then guarantee its success in the long run. Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Emirates were all creation of British as well. Not all turned out to be a success

*sigh*
There's a reason more people are leaning towards antagonism or atheism if you call it. Instead of acting as the bridge between normal human beings and God, the mullahs, imams, clerics, pundits etc. are acting as a substitute to God Himself ! Just this Friday I was listening to the sermons of a nearby mosque. The imam was saying that the reason the ancient fire worshippers and pagans lost to "Abrahamic religion" was in many ways related to the corruptness of the "Religiously literates" normal people came to follow blindly. I couldn't agree more. The same can be seen in modern Islam and all the major faiths. Problem is only the Europeans saw this beforehand and fought for separation of church and state but now they're the first ones to go extinct.

 

[xyxmt]

Pakistan is a country with no leader .... a leader who put Pakistan first ... than everything ... that is why we been bullied by everyone , there are no strict laws against treason or traitors , that is why so many Pakistani's are ready to sell their Iman for some dollars ... all they care is to get USA or UK passport and shift their families there , and than get busy in looting Pakistan ..
there is not a single country in this world who is running on Sharia law , but those Taliban are fighting in Pakistan .. why ? UAE , Qatar , Kuwait , Oman people go there to have fun and enjoy the prostitution .. but the problem , leaving the arab land aside , all Asshoels just want Pakistan to have Sharia law ... this argument of the mullah type Chutiyas is so lame ...
hope Pakistan now learn its lesson , because if not , than wait till another 71 like situation happen .

wrong, Pakistan is a country consist of people with no ambitions, a country where kids learn from their elder that whatever you do and how hard you work doesnt matter, because jo allah ki marzi hogi wohi hoga. How often you hear this phrase, makes me sick whenever I hear it.

 

[Hiptullha]

We cannot make any reforms to the laws of the country or launch a crackdown without doing anything about the economy and the problem with our public institutions. To me, terrorism and the way we are treating the public go hand in hand.
I do not believe that a young man who spent his youth studying under the clerics and being clothed, fed and sheltered by the organizations which target Shias will take kindly to a crackdown. We have to remember that while these groups are violent on one side, on the other, they are also charitable. This is the only reason for their widespread success. The vacuum we have left had been taken up by them and people won't do anything besides support someone who provides free food and education. Same story in Iraq. ISIS is wildly successful among the Sunnis because the Iraqi government had barely done anything for them for the 10 years they ruled.