Pakistan terror wave sparks rare criticism of Saudi Arabia!

[SQ8]

Saudi sponsors terrorism against Shias. It is a common fact that these nobles enjoy immunity because they live in a place which is dearest to the Muslims!

Correction, they occupy that place: As in forceful occupation via massacre and displacement of the locals.

 

[Norwegian]

Well, as they say, leaders are the reflection of their people. If the people don't want to rise up against puppet politicians then that can only mean the people are happy with such leaders because in these leaders they see their own mentality.

Well put. Iranian Revolution style revolution cannot happen in a patriot free country like Pakistan.

Correction, they occupy that place: As in forceful occupation via massacre and displacement of the locals.

Saudis are originally from Najd not Mecca or Medina.

 

[SQ8]

I wished Jinnah had called for Saudi-based Shariah Law in Pakistan, but thank God he didn't!

He would have hung himself before he did that. But that depends on whether you view him as Mohaamad Ali Jinnah - The founder of Pakistan and a Great leader
Or
Quaid-e-Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah Rehmatullah aleh - Companion of the Mahdi who died too early.

 

[rockstar08]

I wished Jinnah had called for Saudi-based Shariah Law in Pakistan, but thank God he didn't!

Jinnah was very intelligent person , he knew the Nation he was fighting for ... but thing is he failed to realized one fact that once he is gone , the peoples living in this area will eventually ruin the land ...

 

[SQ8]

Well put. Iranian Revolution style revolution cannot happen in a patriot free country like Pakistan.


Saudis are originally from Hejaz not Mecca or Medina.

BZZZZZZZAaannnG!!.. Wrong Answer..
Hejaz is the area of Mecca and Medina.. The House of Saud originates from an area called Najd(where modern day Riyadh is and the reason it is the capital)...

Well put. Iranian Revolution style revolution cannot happen in a patriot free country like Pakistan..

Patriotism is the refuge of the scoundrel.

 

[Norwegian]

BZZZZZZZAaannnG!!.. Wrong Answer..
Hejaz is the area of Mecca and Medina.. The House of Saud originates from an area called Najd(where modern day Riyadh is and the reason it is the capital)...



Patriotism is the refuge of the scoundrel.

Yeah, you are right. I forgot to check the map on that one

 

[wolfschanzze]

How come LOC got involved here? We are talking about Saudis not Indians!

I am saying you can't open new war fronts at the same time and win,One at a time has higher chance of success than opening multiple fronts and losing,especially when the enemy is in your own home.
By resolving the border issue with India permanently, you have a real chance to set your house in order, you can divert the rest of your Economy,Military for the prosperity of your people.
I think you know how West Pakistan lost East Pakistan in 1971 right?

 

[SQ8]

I am saying you can't open new war fronts at the same time and win,One at a time has higher chance of success than opening multiple fronts and losing,especially when the enemy is in your own home.
By resolving the border issue with India permanently, you have a real chance to set your house in order, you can divert the rest of your Economy,Military for the prosperity of your people.
I think you know how West Pakistan lost East Pakistan in 1971 right?

Resolve the border issue with India? Leave no avenue for Indian media to score its ratings!! Are you mad man, the economy of India would collapse.

 

[Norwegian]

I think you know how West Pakistan lost East Pakistan in 1971 right?

East Pakistan was lost to Indian influence, same way we are losing most of our country under Saudi influence.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

The two countries, both with majority Sunni Muslim populations, are bound together by shared Islamic religious ties. PHOTO: REUTERS

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan and Saudi Arabia have long enjoyed close relations, but Islamabad’s new-found resolve for fighting the root causes of extremism has seen the Gulf state come in for rare criticism.

The two countries, both with majority Sunni Muslim populations, are bound together by shared Islamic religious ties, financial aid from oil-rich Saudi and Pakistan military assistance to the kingdom.

But a Taliban massacre at a school that killed more than 150 people in December, mostly children, has led the government to crack down on militants and talk of bringing religious seminaries under tighter control.

Now the country’s media and even government ministers have begun to question whether support from Saudi Arabia for seminaries, known as madrassas, is fuelling violent extremism – bringing tension to the relationship for the first time.

Last week the Saudi embassy issued a statement saying that all its donations to seminaries had government clearance, after a minister accused the Riyadh government of creating instability across the Muslim world.

The Pakistani foreign ministry responded by saying that funding by private individuals through “informal channels” would also be scrutinised closely to try to choke off funding for terror groups.

While the statement avoided mentioning Saudi Arabia specifically, it was widely interpreted as a rebuke.

Away from the seminaries, there has also been widespread criticism of the decision to allow Saudi royals to hunt the rare houbara bustard, prized in the Middle East for its supposed aphrodisiac properties, in the southern provinces of Sindh and Baluchistan.

Officials granted permission to hunt the bird, which is on the International Union for Conservation of Nature’s “red list” of threatened species, in defiance of a court order, prompting allegations that the government prized its lucrative ties to Riyadh over its own wildlife.

Badar Alam, editor of Herald magazine, said the recent wave of criticism was unprecedented.

“Saudi has vast commercial and economic interests in Pakistan. There are open questions being asked on this relationship,” he said.

“Before, nobody would ask any questions in any manner. Now even the Urdu press is asking questions.”

Donors in Saudi Arabia have long been accused of quietly funding terror groups sympathetic to the kingdom’s hardline version of Sunni Islam.

Leaked diplomatic cables by then-US secretary of State Hillary Clinton in 2009 said Saudi Arabian donors were “the most significant source of funding to Sunni terrorist groups worldwide”.

The cable cited the Taliban, Al-Qaeda and Pakistan’s Sunni Muslim sectarian militants Lashkar-e-Jhangvi as examples of where funds were being channelled.

Linked to the funding is Saudi Arabia’s long geostrategic struggle with Iran, the key Shia Muslim power in the region.

Nawaz Sharif, Pakistan’s current prime minister, enjoys particularly close ties with the Saudi royal family, which hosted him during his almost decade-long exile from Pakistan following his ouster by then military ruler Pevez Musharraf.

And last year the government said it had received a $1.5 billion “gift” from a friendly Muslim nation, widely thought by experts to be in fact a loan from Saudi Arabia.

But Najmuddin Sheikh, a former foreign secretary and ambassador, said the December attack on an army school in Peshawar, which left 153 people dead including 134 children, had opened the door for criticism.

“This has been triggered by Peshawar and a strong feeling that much of the terrorism that is here is being financed by outside countries,” he said.

“Countries like Kuwait, UAE and Qatar must also do much more at home to curtail this.”

But, he added, any efforts to cut back on foreign funding for extremist seminaries must go hand in hand with similar efforts at home.

He said this would include the state dropping its links with proxy groups that have historically been used by the military establishment to further strategic goals in Afghanistan and Indian-administered Kashmir.

“Our fund collection within Pakistan remains unimpeded. If you want more from abroad you need to do more at home,” he said.

A senior government official, speaking on condition of anonymity, agreed.

“We didn’t need the Saudis to radicalise us, we have geared ourselves to that,” he said.

And while the current mood may be critical of Riyadh, the official said in the long run the relationship was too important and too beneficial to jeopardise.

“There is no change in policy. Both the Sharif government and the military are very much on board with Saudis. Actual policy is not likely to change,” he said.
Pakistan terror wave sparks rare criticism of Saudi Arabia – The Express Tribune

Thank God, this "criticism" of "untouchable" Saudi Arabia was long overdue. Now I am pretty sure Pakistan won't be providing Saudis with nukes (as part of their holy deal) in case Iran acquires them first!

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P.S why do you tag indian trolls in our internal/domestic issues? Even now you have tagged like 90% indians!

 

[wolfschanzze]

Resolve the border issue with India? Leave no avenue for Indian media to score its ratings!! Are you mad man, the economy of India would collapse.

Leave our TRP crazy Media aside ,those fools will create another Conflict with another nation on the lines of India and Pakistan one and they are quite capable at that.

 

[Norwegian]

P.S why do you tag indian trolls in our internet/domestic issues?

That's why:

He said this would include the state dropping its links with proxy groups that have historically been used by the military establishment to further strategic goals in Afghanistan and Indian-administered Kashmir.

Pakistani internal-security is inherently linked with Indian security in occupied Kashmir.

 

[haman10]

this is an internal issue so i'm gonna just stay out , but i think the last thing pakistan should worry about is who supports terrorism in their country , cause whoever does it , you cannot do anything about it .

as an ex. we iranians know for a fact that abdulmalek rigi the fanatical terrorist which was hanged , was homed in a US military camp . but what could we do about it ? nothing .

all we did was we intercepted the airplane which was carrying him .

pakistan should do the same : KILL THE SHIZZZAM outta TTP and LeJ .

period .

 

[SQ8]

Leave our TRP crazy Media aside ,those fools will create another Conflict with another nation on the lines of India and Pakistan one and they are quite capable at that.

Nothing would be more fun than that. After all, only Pakistan can actually appeal to those looking for their daily dosage of hate( or vice versa from here). Think about it, at the end of the day there is really not much left to hate about China or Bangladesh or Burma. After all, the CHinese you dont understand, you cant get their social innuendoes(and vice versa)..
compared to that.. you are familiar with all that the Pakistani says, eats, does and so on.. which is what makes you so furious with your head burning up saying "Why are you like us and then like that!!"...on the other side it burns the Pakistanis "Why are you like us but we dont want to be like you!!".

So essentially, the two countries would self-implode if they resolved all their issues out. The Indian intelligentsia understands it and so do the Pakistanis.. hence there cannot be peace; and I might be fibbing.. I might be not.

 

[wolfschanzze]

East Pakistan was lost to Indian influence, same way we are losing most of our country under Saudi influence.

Indian Influence only happened after you started persecuting your fellow East Pakistani Muslims,India intervened only after that.If there was no Killing of Bangladeshis,there wouldn't have been a Mukti Bahni, nor India entering that Theatre.
I see the same situation of Pakistan now, only this time the Mukti Bahni happen to be TTP and their allied groups, while India happens to be Saudis.You are importing their grudges,political fights Sunni vs Shia to Pakistan.