Pakistan successfully tests Babur 2 Cruise Missile.

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Inertial navigation plus datalink may be good enough to bring the missile near a sea target. However, you'ld still need some form of autonomous terminal guidance (IRH, RFH, Radar) for the end run, I would think.


If diameter is small enough and if there is some form of encapsulated launch.

@Khafee. @Oscar

Ship borne Land Attack missile and Anti ship missile by 2018

https://defence.pk/threads/ministry-of-defence-production-year-book-2014-2015.442534/


New variants or new missile systems.

 

[Penguin]

@Khafee. @Oscar

Ship borne Land Attack missile and Anti ship missile by 2017:
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https://defence.pk/threads/ministry-of-defence-production-year-book-2014-2015.442534/


New variants or new missile systems.

That does suggest two different front ends, with a common 'rear end', much like Tomahawk

Rather than a dual mission (land/sea) front end.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Babur previous test -

New variant test;

Older canister :

The new ones launcher/canister also looks different.

 

[Khafee]

Well those who bleed green, might be interested to know that the second version of Babur which reached IOC " a couple of years +/- ago" was SLCM.

This was the second version, after Babur Surface to Surface CM.

Note: Those who bleed any other color except green, please ignore this post.

Thank You!

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

That confirmation holds in the antenna in the nose section not present in previous versions.

Older design ;

New version

 

[Khafee]

Babur previous test -

View attachment 360338


New variant test;

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Older canister :

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The new ones launcher/canister also looks different.

The diameter has decreased as well.

 

[YeBeWarned]

Ship board is in limbo until a suitable VLS equipped vessel is procured from China.

Why China ?? and Why just CHINA ? any Chance for Turkish Milgem Class Frigate ?

The diameter has decreased as well.

And Mysterious Nose antenna @Windjammer Pointed out ..

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

That does suggest two different front ends, with a common 'rear end', much like Tomahawk

Rather than a dual mission (land/sea) front end.

And wouldn't that mean it's capable of "anti ship" missions ... Because that's what the MODP 2014-15 report officially suggests...

And considering the new Babur II test claims anti sea capability.... I'd suppose this is the system the report mentions ? To be operational by 2018.

While the Sub Launched version would be ready by the time Pak gets the new subs.. 2020-22 deadline.

 

[YeBeWarned]

Well those who bleed green, might be interested to know that the second version of Babur which reached IOC " a couple of years +/- ago" was SLCM.

This was the second version, after Babur Surface to Surface CM.

Note: Those who bleed any other color except green, please ignore this post.

Thank You!

Last time i cut my finger during the making of Indigenous Biryani at my house, my blood is still red ( hope that does not make me a Communist ) but i can use some Green Paint but i do know that what you are saying is 98% true

 

[Khafee]

And Mysterious Nose antenna @Windjammer Pointed out ..

I think what Windy bhai is hinting at is a new seeker.

 

[YeBeWarned]

I think what Windy bhai is hinting at is a new seeker.

Most likely , looking at the illustration in post #166 which is of Tomahawk Missile which is the Hypothetical Father of our Babur one can easily see it can be a new Seeker/guidance system ..but lets give the Credit to Windy bhai for having a sharp Eyes

 

[SQ8]

@Khafee. @Oscar

Ship borne Land Attack missile and Anti ship missile by 2018

https://defence.pk/threads/ministry-of-defence-production-year-book-2014-2015.442534/


New variants or new missile systems.

Land attack wont be practical until VLS, unless they try what they tried with Nodong in 90's.
Basically, put it on the helipad. A crude approach that might work but not very effective nor secure.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Land attack wont be practical until VLS, unless they try what they tried with Nodong in 90's.
Basically, put it on the helipad. A crude approach that might work but not very effective nor secure.

So maybe they are after all looking for VLS capable ships ? You being an insider would know about it more than us miserable souls.

 

[SQ8]

View attachment 360345

This image is from stock video of earlier operational variant and not the new system.

 

[Penguin]

And wouldn't that mean it's capable of "anti ship" missions ... Because that's what the MODP 2014-15 report officially suggests...

And considering the new Babur II test claims anti sea capability.... I'd suppose this is the system the report mentions ? To be operational by 2018.

While the Sub Launched version would be ready by the time Pak gets the new subs.. 2020-22 deadline.

It would, because then you would have an antiship specific guidance package. As opposed to a missile that relies on INS, TERCOM and DSMAC that initital page one articles referred to, which is primarily useful for are land attack. As indicated, a nuke warhead with good INS and datalink may be brought close enough to an area sea target, but is unlikely able to pinpoint a single ship.

If a sublaunched version - whether land attack or antiship or both - will be ready for the new subs, then IMHO that means that at this point current submarines likely do not have the ability to fire Babur while submerged.