dont forget 1 pakistani soldier = 100 indian soldierplease do...let the cycle go on and kill each soldiers...and see who's left with what.
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dont forget 1 pakistani soldier = 100 indian soldierplease do...let the cycle go on and kill each soldiers...and see who's left with what.
lol 'bleed India with a thousand cuts' we dont need to do that now, indians are doing it themselve i can see some really good news from eastern part of india as far as IOK , we will take this war in you capital like yesterday
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i am enjoying my stay on the forum............ and why dont u go and read your history....anyway before pointing your fingers at us can u tell why your leaders went to tashkund in 1965.
How true! I agree 100%!
The thing is, the only causality here in the web are our bruised egos when one taunts the other but the consequences for these guys on either side are very serious and very real. Guys who spend time on the front and come in contact with the other side have great respect for each other. They don’t have times for the tantrums we post about each other.
Unfortunately I disagree for the most part here. It is the Pakistan Army's/ISI's doctrine of bleeding India with a thousand cuts and keeping the pot boiling by infiltrating terrorists into Kashmir. The PA is fighting a proxy war with India using these militants as cannon fodder. That's the truth. You know it and so do we. But most prefer to live in their cocoon of denial.Peace with Pakistan at this moment doesn’t fit the Indian army’s strategic planning and they as true enemy want to keep Pakistan Forces under pressure while its engaged with an insurgency for over a decade now. Therefore we see that no matter what party forms the government in India, any solution, be it Kashmir, Siachin or sir-creek is impossible when any bilateral progress between the two movements is stalled because of the Indian Army’s opposition to any such move.
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sir can u also tell me what happened there? was there any agreement or treaty signed? and what was its agenda?to meet your leaders who were already present there.....
You can claim even US to be disputed for the sake of it. Usually firing is done ONLY after warning shots. You're not telling me that the Pakistani soldiers couldn't hear the warning shots before entering our side could they?
The firing was done only when there were attempts to get into our territory or leak in militants.
Guys its a disputed territory and both armies are deployed there against each other. I have my self been to many fronts along the LoC and have fired at Indian positions where 4 Rajput was deployed back in 1999.
There is no point in complaining about this incident as the incidents of sniping and machine gun fire are not unheard.
A ceasefire is agreed but its not mandatory on either parties. They respect it as long as it suits them. Normally things get hot when either side tries to establish new bunkers or positions. Its starts with machine gun fire and mortars and can escalate to heavy machine run fire and in some occasions howitzers are also involved but only if there is some heavy and aggressive movement.
Back in 1999, I visited an injured caption in CHM who got hit by shrapnel from mortar shell while he was deployed with my cousin in Bhimber sector. Both his legs were amputated and he accepted it as a an eventuality. He had been doing the same to Indians when he as directing his fire on their positions.
The thing is, the only causality here in the web are our bruised egos when one taunts the other but the consequences for these guys on either side are very serious and very real. Guys who spend time on the front and come in contact with the other side have great respect for each other. They dont have times for the tantrums we post about each other.
Peace with Pakistan at this moment doesnt fit the Indian armys strategic planning and they as true enemy want to keep Pakistan forces under pressure while its engaged with an insurgency for over a decade now. Therefore we see that no matter what party forms the government in India, any solution, be it Kashmir, Siachin or sir-creek is impossible when any bilateral progress between the two movements is stalled because of the Indian Armys opposition to any such move.
So shortly, expect to see more incidents like these that can escalate to small skirmishes to even something bigger, followed by flagstaff meetings and temporary ceasefire and then back to the same incidents again.
Unfortunately I disagree for the most part here. It is the Pakistan Army's/ISI's doctrine of bleeding India with a thousand cuts and keeping the pot boiling by infiltrating terrorists into Kashmir.
The PA is fighting a proxy war with India using these militants as cannon fodder. That's the truth. You know it and so do we. But most prefer to live in their cocoon of denial.
Yes I agree that the change of the governments doesn’t really change the national policies but having said that for more than ten odd years even before the 9/11 there has been a joint effort to resolve our outstanding problems via dialog and much has been gained in this regard. The ceasefire is holding, terrorists have failed to instigate a war despite repeated terrorist attacks both in Pakistan and India and there is some genuine belief among the leadership that the benefits of a peaceful south east Asia are enormous for both countries. But the best part is, that the people on either side of the border are realising and waking up to the fact that prosperity and happiness is possible even with peaceful coexistence. People are shunning the stereotype and the propaganda and allowing themselves to experience themselves and find out the reality rather than be lead and fed by their respective governments and media. By people I mean the us both.So, it doesn't matter who forms the government in Pakistan, the PA/ISI will continue doing what it has been doing for the last more than two decades. You guys stop the infiltration and dismantle the 42 terrorist training camps, (most of which are in Pak administered Kashmir having the HQ of the Unified Jihad Council at Muzzafarabd),
and then we can start talking peace and solve problems for mutual benefit.
Pakistan can't expect India to ink 'peace deals' with a gun pointed to its head.
thanks and you are correct. I hope our future generations dont have this unending ongoing arguments and conflictAnd this is not the first time it has happened, Border Skirmishes have been part and parcel of LOC.
There had been times when Indian soldiers had died too so people should respect the fallen. and try to resolve the reasons which cause so many fine young men to give their lives