Pakistan, Saudi Arabia agree on strengthening ties

[lem34]

Yes, but now they now they need to coordinate the terms of their joint occupation of Bahrain. link

Of course this occupation is blessed by american and has been carried out on instruction to our supposed leaders who have been bribed by americans

 

[*Awan*]

well
more Saudis cadets can come to Pakistan,we also station some missile on Saudi soil
and above all they get typhoon with tot i hope people from PAF work with RSAF and made some potent Ew suite and some other avionics.
this will help us in countering mmrca.

 

[Tshering22]

well
more Saudis cadets can come to Pakistan,we also station some missile on Saudi soil

Saudis already have Chinese ballistic missiles for conventional warheads. There's no point of keeping missiles on Saudi Soil for you, mate.

and above all they get typhoon with tot i hope people from PAF work with RSAF and made some potent Ew suite and some other avionics.

Pakistan can make that but RSAF cannot do much except maybe fund you.

this will help us in countering mmrca.

The point of MMRCA is your new big friend; not you. So don't really bother.

 

[Luftwaffe]

Yes, but now they now they need to coordinate the terms of their joint occupation of Bahrain.

Paranoia and delusional has a limit. When united states can send forces to south korea for some reason so can Pakistan and Saudis to stabilize that part.

Should we take US/NATO is in Afghanistan for the occupation or moving ahead with a occupation plans in Libya.

 

[yusufzoi]

Assalam alaikum

Pakistan and Saudia friendly countries and ppl of both countries love and respect each other.

TARIQ

Pakistani being big hearted people show love to all, but I disagree with you saudis and most arabs are racist ignorant biggots,they see pakistani workers as personal slaves and second class citizens

Saudia is playing this card to ensure that pak doesn't develop any relations with iran and which saudia doesn't look kindly to.

Pakistan needs to have an independent foreign policy.

 

[fast and furious]

They are the only muslim nation with the nuke that is correct. But there are other reasons as well like the population etc

Sure.I will agree to that.
So as a Backbone and as a leader of the Islamic world,please tell me what nations and policies Pakistan was able to influence.

As I see it Pakistan can not even control whats happening inside their territory.

 

[yusufzoi]

Sure.I will agree to that.
So as a Backbone and as a leader of the Islamic world,please tell me what nations and policies Pakistan was able to influence.

As I see it Pakistan can not even control whats happening inside their territory.

Like india, maoist insurgency, khalistan movement, kashmir are jus a few to mention, a nation which is confused.

 

[Sinnerman108]

Pakistani being big hearted people show love to all, but I disagree with you saudis and most arabs are racist ignorant biggots,they see pakistani workers as personal slaves and second class citizens

Saudia is playing this card to ensure that pak doesn't develop any relations with iran and which saudia doesn't look kindly to.

Pakistan needs to have an independent foreign policy.

There are basic problems with what you are suggesting.
I suggest that you search for what has already been discussed on this forum before initiating another futile attempt.

Regards

 

[fast and furious]

Like india, maoist insurgency, khalistan movement, kashmir are jus a few to mention, a nation which is confused.

Well my post was in response to the post about Pakistan and its claim to be the leader of Islamic world but I will still reply to you.Although you agreed that you are confused.

Maoist insurgency-Sir internal problem.More to do with economic factors then a political fallout.
Khalistan movement-Wake up sir and get a life it is 2011.
Kashmir-We are not confused, you are.We have it and no chance of giving it up.live with it sir.

 

[yusufzoi]

There are basic problems with what you are suggesting.
I suggest that you search for what has already been discussed on this forum before initiating another futile attempt.

Regards

Well enlighten me, the thread was about gilanis visit to saudia and how saudi king was praising pak and saying that we are one.

I just said that they are worried about pak developing relations with iran.

They clearly asked zardari not to visit iran, which he did on numerous occasion.

I don't think its their business who we develop our relations with as we need to pursue our interests.

Futile attempt at what?

 

[Solomon2]

Paranoia and delusional has a limit.

A Pakistani thinks "paranoia and delusion has" (are they the same thing to you?) a limit? Please elucidate.

 

[TARIQ BN ZIYAAD]

Pakistani being big hearted people show love to all, but I disagree with you saudis and most arabs are racist ignorant biggots,they see pakistani workers as personal slaves and second class citizens

Saudia is playing this card to ensure that pak doesn't develop any relations with iran and which saudia doesn't look kindly to.

Pakistan needs to have an independent foreign policy.

Assalam alaikum

Ppl disagreed with prophets u have the right to disagree with me but i have said it many times and say it to u i lived most of my life in arabic land and with arabs so i can judge them better more then u, so i stand by what i wrote up there. And if u take the treatment of the workers i know the employers in pakistan also doesnot treat their workers as they should.

However i agree with u we need to have independent policy ( but it doesnot mean we cut our ties with arabs and be happy with iran ).

TARIQ

 

[yusufzoi]

Assalam alaikum

Ppl disagreed with prophets u have the right to disagree with me but i have said it many times and say it to u i lived most of my life in arabic land and with arabs so i can judge them better more then u, so i stand by what i wrote up there. And if u take the treatment of the workers i know the employers in pakistan also doesn't treat their workers as they should.

However i agree with u we need to have independent policy ( but it doesn't mean we cut our ties with arabs and be happy with iran ).

TARIQ

So you rather not have relation with others even if they are beneficial for your nation just because some arab is unhappy.

We should have relations with anyone that serves our interest. You may live amongst them and I have travelled and met many, they are ignorant and backward, unable to do anything for themselves.

Didn't the so called custodian of the two mosques say that zardari has a rotten head and that palestinians shouldn't be helped by iran cuz they are arabs.

Zardari has more legitimacy then the king at least zardari came in because his party won election, same can't be said about the king who is illegitimate.

 

[Khalid Al-Qurashi]

Pakistani being big hearted people show love to all, but I disagree with you saudis and most arabs are racist ignorant biggots,they see pakistani workers as personal slaves and second class citizens

Saudia is playing this card to ensure that pak doesn't develop any relations with iran and which saudia doesn't look kindly to.

Pakistan needs to have an independent foreign policy.

yusufzoi ,
Al Salam Alaikum

your post is ignorant at best. Your generalizations about Saudis and Arabs shows a lack of intelligence and unfounded data . I ask that nobody make silly, equally ignorant generalizations .

You stated that we are playing cards to ensure Pakistan does not develop any relations with Iran ignoring the good relations between many GCC countries and Iran .

The fact remains , the Saudi-Iran relations were excellent until Khomeini and other Iranian leaders openly attacked and criticised the character and religious legitimacy of the Saudi Arabia and promised to export the revolution influinsing many Saudis in the East and threatening its inner security . That what we do Not look kindly to .

 

[muse]

Arabia is a weed, it must be destroyed from the roots, only this will save Muslims.


EDITORIAL: Saudi support: at what cost?

Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani termed his recent visit to Saudi Arabia as a ‘renewal of ties’. Now this is interesting. Why would Pakistan need to ‘renew’ its ties with its Saudi ‘lords’ who have wreaked havoc here in the name of Islam? But obviously this subject was not on Mr Gilani’s agenda. The discussions were focused on asking the Saudis to reactivate bilateral cooperation in the fields of science, defence, defence production, trade and commerce. The Pakistani side tried to persuade the Saudis to buy weapons from us. The defence production facilities in Pakistan produce more weapons than we need, which is why we try to sell the extra weapons to other countries. Prime Minister Gilani also requested the Saudi authorities for an extension in the deferred oil payment facility, which the Saudis will ‘consider’. Apart from performing Umrah, which seemed to be the primary purpose of the Pakistani side for visiting Saudi Arabia, it looks as if nothing substantial came out of the talks. The two sides discussed the Afghan situation in the post-US withdrawal scenario. Saudi Arabia may have stressed Pakistan’s crucial role in the region given the new developments but maybe the Saudis have forgotten their own role in pushing this region into a quagmire.

Even before the Afghan jihad, Saudi Arabia was able to influence the Pakistani leadership due to the power of petro-dollars. By dazzling our leadership with its wealth and dangling the ‘Kadhimain-Haramain-Sharifain’ title in front of the Pakistani public, the Saudi monarchy was able to get what it wanted from Pakistan. Be it exporting terrorism to Iran, Saudi Arabia’s nemesis, by funding sectarian madrassas that are actually terror factories, fanning sectarian conflict inside Pakistan through these same madrassas, buying land in Pakistan to ensure food security in the barren kingdom, or hunting endangered animals and birds with their UAE brethren on Pakistani soil, the Arab sheikhs have lorded it in and over Pakistan. This, however, could not have happened unless our leaders allowed it, dazzled as they have been by the lure of money. The seeds of Arabisation of Pakistan germinated in Zulfikar Ali Bhutto’s time and bore plentiful fruit under General Ziaul Haq’s regime. None of our leaders, be they civilian or military, thought much about the consequences of getting too close to the Arab overlords. The poison that the Saudiisation of Pakistan produced has now spread countrywide. King Abdullah’s words during Prime Minister Gilani’s visit are of significance. The monarch said, “Pakistan and Saudi Arabia are one country; they are more than friends and more than brothers.” Instead of sending shockwaves down our leadership’s spine, Prime Minister Gilani welcomed his statement and went a step further by saying, “Pakistan’s security was Saudi Arabia’s security and Saudi Arabia’s security was Pakistan’s security.”

If this is how our leaders are going to behave — bowing to every whim of the monarchs of Saudi Arabia — they might as well move all Pakistanis to the Rab’ al Khali (the empty quarter, the massive desert in the heart of Saudi Arabia where nothing grows or lives) and invite the Arab sheikhs to reside in Pakistan instead. Arab influence has already turned Pakistan into a blood-soaked battlefield. The fault lies with Pakistan’s leaders who have never questioned the Arab sheikhs for their dubious and nefarious activities in the region and in Pakistan. Pakistani society has become intolerant over the years because of various reasons, but most importantly because of Saudi Arabia’s powerful influence in our internal matters. The growth of Wahabiism and extremism in Pakistan is mostly because of funding by Arab sheikhs. Is it not time to bid adieu to such negative influences instead of asking them for ‘renewal’ of ties? *