Pakistan officially inducts HQ 9 Air Defence system

[vi-va]

then why china itself had to buy S400?

China would love to spend a few billions to buy F-35, F-22, B-2, Ford aircraft carrier, UGM-133A Trident II, Ohio-class SSBN, Seawolf-class attack submarines, Virginia-class attack submarines

Money is not the problem at all.

 

[kursed]

Don’t know the specs of FD2000B though:

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Poster:

The FD-2000 long range air defense missile weapon system is an advanced major weapon for national air defense. It can intercept all kinds of air raid weapons at different altitudes, such as conventional air craft, stealth aircraft, cruise missile, air to ground missile, armed helicopter and tactical ballistic (ground to ground) missile (TBM). It has remarkable capability to counter multiple targets and can command other middle range and short range air defense weapons to form a multi layer air defense system and conduct area defense.

 

[Bilal.]

Poster:

The FD-2000 long range air defense missile weapon system is an advanced major weapon for national air defense. It can intercept all kinds of air raid weapons at different altitudes, such as conventional air craft, stealth aircraft, cruise missile, air to ground missile, armed helicopter and tactical ballistic (ground to ground) missile (TBM). It has remarkable capability to counter multiple targets and can command other middle range and short range air defense weapons to form a multi layer air defense system and conduct area defense.

Meaning FM90, LY80 and HQ9/P will work together to form layered AD.

 

[kursed]

In continuation of my earlier post, pay attention to hatches on the firing module. And you’d see that their location on Uzbek and Pakistani systems is different from vanilla HQ-9/A.

 

[Zarvan]

Unfortunately it is HQ-9 or HQ-9A not B，base on your pic 1.
HQ-9/9A:
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HQ-9BE:
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HQ-9P:
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It's neither A nor B nor C. We got it changed to fit our requirements. Trust me it would be way different from any existing version

 

[Bilal.]

@kursed

 

[iLION12345_1]

In continuation of my earlier post, pay attention to hatches on the firing module. And you’d see that their location on Uzbek and Pakistani systems is different from vanilla HQ-9/A.
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Good observation, so far it suggests FD-2000B (which seems Analogous to HQ-9B/BE)

 

[iLION12345_1]

It's neither A nor B nor C. We got it changed to fit our requirements. Trust me it would be way different from any existing version

I doubt that. Doesn’t make monetary sense (or sense otherwise). The missiles and the launchers would be from an existing system, the most they’d modify is sensors, data links etc (which do seem to be modified). PA is paying to buy the system, not to design, test and create a new one. The system is very likely an HQ-9B with some changes.

 

[Ali_Baba]

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This transfer is not on the Arms transfer register at SIPRI.. given that they have just inducted the "4th" regiment - the first 3 were delivered before 2021 - so logically would have been on this register if Pakistan or China declared it.

This is how secret this procurement programme was. Now that this is an established fact, I expect it to turn up on this register at some point soon given that the HQ-16 procurement also appears there.

(all the coversations and logical analysis point to this being derivative of the HQ-9BE ). If you consider also the recent AD command and control centres recently announced - you can see how Pakistan has put in place the consolidated picture of the battlespace and then purchased the SAM systems to work under that unified command.

 

[HRK]

So, if this was a vanilla FD-2000, the PA probably would've called it the FD-2000/P.

FD-2000 was export designation but PA is using HQ-9 as name which might mean this system is not acquired with standard export offer, but with Pakistan specific changes in original HQ-9

It is my assumption that the system may have already been installed to defend all key cities/installations of country and is operational.

ISPR has has stated in its press rlease

Induction of HIMADS will significantly enhance Comprehensive Layered Integrated Air Defence (CLIAD) shield of aerial frontiers of Pakistan as the system is fully integrated through a well-knit Digitized System on its inventory.

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FD-2000B isn’t an actual designation, it’s FD-2000, HQ-9B and HQ-9BE.

more clear pic of the same poster

I assume FD-2000 is the export version of the HQ-9A while FD-2000B is export version of HQ-9B?

It is a common misconception about FD-2000B, export version of HQ9B is HQ-9BE, not FD-2000B.

In FD-2000B technical capabilities were enhanced such as capabilities related to low altitude engagement specially receding targets, Stealth aircraft ..... networking and EW, increased range was never mention in any official declaration.

Now if we read the ISPR press release it appear very similar to FD-2000 brochure

Capable of intercepting multiple air targets including aircrafts, cruise missiles and Beyond Visual Range Weapons at ranges over 100 kilometers with Single Shot Kill Probability

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but more intriguing factor in that press release in my opinion is Letter 'P' in nomenclature.

- We know that HQ-9B is now on offer for export market, and even HQ-9 or HQ-9A bot h are out of production

- We know that in 2014 or 2015 Pakistan officially started the negotiation for SAM systems from China.

- HQ-16/LY-80E were also acquired as the result of successful conclusion of the negotiation

- But LY-80E was not the only system which was negotiated, one more system was also under negotiation and Pakistan was seeking licence for limited local production.

- I am not quite sure limited local production was for which system, as we know QW-18 manpads were also procured

- Now the catching thing is we inducted LY-80 as LY-80 and no change in name or increase of nomenclature was done by PA same is the case with QW-18 manpads.

- But with HQ-9P is added which may not only showing that it is some particular version but probably something related to maintenance, overhaul in future and/or limited rights of production, .... ???

- ISPR has already declared that system is fully integrated with IADS of Pakistan

 

[The Eagle]

This system is neither FD-2000 nor B or E but prominently mentions HP-9P and that may point towards something of a designation for HQ-9 Air Defence System in use of PLA itself. Get the drift. Neither the PLA version is export oriented nor the version as such as HQ-9P. These versions are operator specific only.

 

[farooqbhai007]

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FD-2000 was export designation but PA is using HQ-9 as name which might mean this system is not acquired with standard export offer, but with Pakistan specific changes in original HQ-9


ISPR has has stated in its press rlease

Click Here

more clear pic of the same poster
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It is a common misconception about FD-2000B, export version of HQ9B is HQ-9BE, not FD-2000B.

In FD-2000B technical capabilities were enhanced such as capabilities related to low altitude engagement specially receding targets, Stealth aircraft ..... networking and EW, increased range was never mention in any official declaration.

Now if we read the ISPR press release it appear very similar to FD-2000 brochure

Click Here

but more intruding factor in that press release in my opinion is Letter 'P' in nomenclature.

- We know that HQ-90B is now on offer for export market, and even HQ-9 or HQ-9A bot h are out of production

- We know that in 2014 or 2015 Pakistan officially started the negotiation for SAM systems from China.

- HQ-16/LY-80E were also acquired as the result of successful conclusion of the negotiation

- But LY-80E was not the only system which was negotiated, one more system was also under negotiation and Pakistan was seeking licence for limited local production.

- I am not quite sure limited local production was for which system, as we know QW-18 manpads were also procured

- Now the catching thing is we inducted LY-80 as LY-80 and no change in name or increase of nomenclature was done by PA same is the case with QW-18 manpads.

- But with HQ-9P is added which may not only that some particular version but probably something related to maintenance, overhaul in future and/or limited rights of production, .... ???

- ISPR has already declared that system is fully integrated with IADS of Pakistan

based on the new brochure shown at Zuhai 2021 , the HQ-9BE has a range of 250km.

 

[HRK]

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based on the new brochure shown at Zuhai 2021 , the HQ-9BE has a range of 250km.

yes .... I know

 

[khanasifm]

Missile Range 5-260 km
Radar coverage should be more

Altitude ?? Other sources 98k

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[War Historian]

OK thats great. In future hypothetical scenario, if lahore gets assimilated by Indians and Karachi is destroyed in bombardment. What else is left for you to defend and cover? Margalla hills, Thar and Waziristan! Pakistan would never be able to recover from those economic blows. Pakistan can very well survive and prosper without its capital. Because there is nothing more than some Govt offices, Head offices of money pit Govt enterprises and a beautiful Mosque built by Saudis.

If Lahore falls then Gujranwala would be a piece of cake and sialkot would be surrounded. All of these territories are tactically vital for Pakistan. It would strengthen the defense of vulnerable IOK supply route of Indian forces and push Pakistani troops on the far side of the Chenab River. And capitulation of those areas would act as a springboard for Indian forces to further occupy the AJK territories.

Pakistan's Railways network would be cut off in half and that too without any railways workshops and manufacturing facilities. Lahore's new and old airports would immediately be converted into indian FOBs within the heart of Pakistan. Then there wouldn't be any safe spot left to hide.

Lahore itself is a vital asset as India's historic obsession with Lahore explains it all. It's one of the most developed, advanced and populated city in Pakistan. It's the 2nd biggest business hub of Pakistan. And many vital assets and their families live in Bahria town, countless phases of DHA, Cantt, GOR 1 etc. too . And no one would be able to proudly twist his well groomed mustaches on wahga border again.

What east Pakistan had to defend by then? Now their textile exports alone are more than the total exports of Pakistan.

All brains and no balls makes oneself an eternal slave

Very well explain Sir. People here so much hate lahore and its citizens. But i can bet, lahori never hate any ethnic or religious group of Pakistan.