I am not satisfied with the jf 17 thunder bcz it is a third generation turbofan single engine aircraft.on the other hand indias aircrafts are expensive and are modren than pakistanis.
JF is not exactly a piece of crap. The basic design may look old but it incorporates many more recent features. Dont compare it with LCA, because to be honest with you, LCA also looks like a desperate attempt of making a Mirage III into a Mirage 2000. Again, JF is not going to be the front line fighter for PAF. It is going to replace the aging Mirage, F-7, and A-5 fleet, so right there you know its possible role in PAF. And atleast, JF is much more capable (even in its basic form) than the existing airplanes in PAF inventory other than the F-16s. I also see that for PAF, JF is only a beginning towards the understanding of how modern fighters are designed and manufactured. The process wont stop here, and PAF along with China will come up with better more sophisticated airplanes in the future. See the glass half full not half empty.
I agree with you. However, 'a lot of guys' you are talking about are young folks, sometimes get emotional. It is not that they dont understand, but sometimes in the heat of debate, people tend to deliberately inflate the capabilities of their system in deflate the potential of their enemey's machines. But than again, you have more informed members on this forum. MuradK, MastanKhan, Neo, AgnosticMuslim, AsimAquil, Blain are only few examples among many others. Read their posts, and I am sure, like me, you'll also gain a lot of knowledge.
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, we have advance weapons , tanks , apc , lmg etc we have to sell them through the world. 
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