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Pakistan needs to come out of destructive India mindset: US

Its fine both countries have same mindset but they were growing nicely ... But for Pakistan India is really big matter(Problem) where in India government always find room to thing about many other things rahter than Pakistan

See the bolded part.
I think one reason for India to go past its problems is that India is a much larger county in population and area. So, even if large swathes of Indian land in the northeast is almost like the FATA of Pakistan that is still not enough to slow down India; there are other places in India--plenty of them--where life is 'normal'. In case of Pakistan the magnitude of terrorism is felt much more because of the much smaller size.
 
India does cry elephant tears when Pakistan and China are buying or acquiring weapons.

india only cries when pakistan get f16 or other technology as a compensation for WOT as pakistan is never going to use it in WOT
 
Well it obviously wasn't, go back and read it again.

I just asked what incentive they had, the point being that India has terrible relationships with its other neighbors, even without this factor being involved.

India has pretty good relationship with a lot of its neighbours. Myanmar, Nepal, Bhutan and Sri Lanka, Bangladesh on and off. Bangladesh and Pakistan has something in common, I ll let you figure out what.

Indians love to accuse others of "supporting terrorism" based on no facts as all, and this is not the first time I've experienced it.

The only thing I can conclude, is that you shouldn't take Indians seriously, when they accuse others of supporting terrorism.

They are even accusing anonymous internet users from Hong Kong of this, shows how utterly laughable and worthless their accusations are. Take it to homeland security, watch them laugh in your faces.

"Oh yeah, this guys post MIGHT have implied something..." - :rofl: - What a bunch of clowns.

Uggh settle down, no one is calling you the next OBL:lol:. By supporting we obviously meant justifying. BTW are you telling m when you asked "what incentive does Pakistan have" you weren't being rhetorical? Cause if you weren't my apologies, but your subsequent posts made it seem like it indeed was a rhetorical question.


Back to the point:

What incentive does Pakistan have, to clamp down on anti-India militants?

Will India be friendly towards Pakistan then?

India isn't exactly friendly to her other neighbours anyway.

Countries have a duty to their own citizens, no one else.

I bet you didn't complain, when the Chinese government accused the "Tibetan government in exile" (in India), of being behind the ethnic unrest in Tibet.

Leading to the deaths of many Chinese civilians.

Not your problem right?

Or when India mass-deported the ethnic Chinese in India, after the 1962 war?

Not your problem right?
 
india only cries when pakistan get f16 or other technology as a compensation for WOT as pakistan is never going to use it in WOT

Incorrect statement. India even cried elephant tears in the 60s when PAF got F-104s and when PAF got F-16s in 1983. There was no WOT then? When PN bought Submaries in the 90s India really cried for months, why is that??
 
Incorrect statement. India even cried elephant tears in the 60s when PAF got F-104s and when PAF got F-16s in 1983. There was no WOT then? When PN bought Submaries in the 90s India really cried for months, why is that??

because pakistan is an aggressor country
 
or indians need to come to the no hypocrisy mindset will be difficult but give it a try indians this is your chance.
 
Cause if you weren't my apologies, but your subsequent posts made it seem like it indeed was a rhetorical question.

That's what happens when you make baseless "assumptions". Assumptions that are based on some retarded form of logic.

Which could have been easily clarified by asking (or even just by NOT making ridiculous assumptions)...

Instead, the Indians on this thread chose to call me a "terrorist supporter", based off nothing but their own ridiculous imaginations.

Bravo. I can't say I'm surprised though.
 
Pakistanis anti-India mindset is perfectly understandable. Pakistan has suffered a lot under India since independence. India has not missed any opportunity to humiliate Pakistan. If Pakistan had not tried to land grab Kashmir before the ink on the partition document dried they will not have been in this postion.

It is nuclear stalemate in the sub continent which is probably very good. Both have no option other than to sit down and hammer a mutually face saving deal. More so in the case of Pakistan as India seems to be holding all the aces.
 
Washington Top US lawmakers and experts have asked Pakistan to come out of its India-centric mindset which they argued is nothing but destructive for it, a day after Islamabad resorted to rhetoric against New Delhi.
"Pakistan's strategic view and posture vis-a-vis India is, at least in this senator's judgment, and I think for many people who so talk about it is absurd in this modern context," Senator John Kerry, Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said at a Congressional hearing.

"Both nuclear nations, both with much bigger interests that would take them, under good reasoning, to, you know, a very different conclusion, but there just seems to be a kind of, you know, automatic historical, cultural desire to keep focusing on India.

"And it is depleting their ability to focus on their own economy, on their own needs, to learn that they have increased their nuclear arsenal, when, by most people's judgment, they already had a bigger one than India and an absolutely adequate capacity to deter as well as to destroy within the region simply doesn't make sense," Kerry said at the first of the series of hearings on Pakistan convened by him.

Resorting to rhetoric, Pakistan Army and the government yesterday warned India against any Abbottabad-like "misadventure", saying it would be responded to "very strongly" that could lead to a "terrible catastrophe".

Senator Richard Lugar, the Ranking member, argued that the US should not cut off its relationship with Pakistan.

"Distancing ourselves from Pakistan would be unwise and extremely dangerous. It would weaken our intelligence gathering; limit our ability to prevent conflict between India and Pakistan; further complicate military operations in Afghanistan; end cooperation on finding terrorists; and eliminate engagement with Islamabad on the security of its nuclear weapons," he said.

"When I visit Pakistan, I get the sense that the Pakistani business community, the political classes, get it that they have no future if they're at constant war mentally with India. I think a lot of people get it now. But the national security establishment, which is a rather important part of Pakistan, still doesn't get it," said Michael Krepon, Co-Founder and Senior Associate South Asia, Henry Stimson Center.

The US ties with India are going to continue to get better, as they should.

"And Pakistan's national security establishment is going to feel more insecure as a result," he said.

"We can't convince Pakistan's military to befriend India. We can work with them to have a more normal relationship with India, especially in the areas of trade and regional development. The biggest challenge facing Pakistan's national security establishment is to recognize how growing links to extremist groups mortgage that country's future," he said.

"The ISI still doesn't get this. Outfits like Lashkar-e-Taiba are the leading edge of Pakistan's national demise. If Pakistan's military leaders can't rethink the fundamentals of their anti-India policy and their increased reliance on nuclear weapons, they will never know true security," Krepon said.

Moeed Yusuf, South Asia Adviser Center for Conflict Management, US Institute of Peace, argued that no amount of money is going to change Pakistan's India mindset.

"Both sides were fairly close to an understanding on a Kashmir solution themselves. I think we dropped the ball by not pushing them hard enough to keep sitting on the table when they pulled back in 2007," he said.

"Terrorism is a serious issue. And I think Pakistan needs to be pushed as much as it can. There's a joint terrorism mechanism which we need to continue; both sides have agreed. But we want to make sure they don't pull out. And third, I think equally important and overlooked is the economic relationship," he said.

Observing that Indo-Pak normalization is critical for Pakistan, but it is not US aid that is going to do the trick, he said.

"It would therefore be best to use America's economic leverage to ensure better development outcomes, and returns on the counterterrorism front should be linked only to security assistance," Yusuf said.

Senator Ben Cardin said the death of Osama bin Laden presents the US with an opportunity to "reset" its ties with the Pakistani people.

"The death of bin Laden provides us with an opportunity to reach out to the Pakistani people so that they understand that the gravest threat they face is not from the US military, but from terrorists who are using their country as a safe heaven," said Cardin, a member of Senate Foreign Relations Committee and chairman of the Subcommittee on International Development and Foreign Assistance, Economic Affairs, and International Environmental Protection.

"We need to do a better job of helping Pakistanis understand that it is in their economic and security interests to partner with the United States," he said in a statement.

"In Pakistan, we have an obligation and responsibility to American taxpayers to make sure that US foreign aid is used to ensure our national security. Focusing on the perception of the US by the Pakistani people is very important," he said.

"We need to ensure that our economic and development efforts show that the United States is a partner with the Pakistani people," Cardin said.

However, Congressman Vern Buchanan called for a freeze in foreign aid to Pakistan until its leaders can show they had no knowledge of bin Laden's whereabouts.

"While the death of bin Laden represents a historic victory in our fight against terrorism, it also raises serious concerns about Pakistan's commitment and reliability as an ally in our fight against terrorism," said Buchanan.

"We should freeze all aid to Pakistan until we have assurances that the Pakistani government is not in the business of harboring terrorists," he said.

Pakistan needs to come out of destructive India mindset: US - Express India

The american and israeli politicians need to come out of their utterly destructive 'crusade' mindset. They need to stop their hatred towards anything Islamic. They need to stop trying to replace Islamic Sharia in the Muslim World with western laws that are tools of repression. In Bangladesh the americans are telling the Bangladeshi government to change the Muslim Inheritance Law for the Muslims. Can you imagine, some Christians telling us what kind of inheritance law we should have! And then these bastards have the audacity to tell us to change our mindset!!!
 
pakistanis ruled over indians for a 1000 or so years and that is something they really cant or will be able to forget they were always our slave boys servants and we really enjoyed ruling over them.it is really difficult for indians for the first time they have gotten the chance to rule as they were either under the british before this they really have to learn a lot still long way to go boys.
 
pakistanis ruled over indians for a 1000 or so years and that is something they really cant or will be able to forget they were always our slave boys servants and we really enjoyed ruling over them.it is really difficult for indians for the first time they have gotten the chance to rule as they were either under the british before this they really have to learn a lot still long way to go boys.

Ahh... another one of the ruler types. So which DNA do you claim, Super Persian, or Superior Arab or Amazing Ottoman?
 
pakistanis ruled over indians for a 1000 or so years and that is something they really cant or will be able to forget they were always our slave boys servants and we really enjoyed ruling over them.it is really difficult for indians for the first time they have gotten the chance to rule as they were either under the british before this they really have to learn a lot still long way to go boys.

Your post is distasteful and obcsene; you're not defending the image of your country, you're just puting stain on it.
 
The american and israeli politicians need to come out of their utterly destructive 'crusade' mindset. They need to stop their hatred towards anything Islamic. They need to stop trying to replace Islamic Sharia in the Muslim World with western laws that are tools of repression. In Bangladesh the americans are telling the Bangladeshi government to change the Muslim Inheritance Law for the Muslims. Can you imagine, some Christians telling us what kind of inheritance law we should have! And then these bastards have the audacity to tell us to change our mindset!!!

Can you shed more light on this? I thought it was the Awami League who was trying to bring changes to the inheritance law?
 
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