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ALEXANDRIA, Va., May 05, 2010 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- VSE Corporation /quotes/comstock/15*!vsec/quotes/nls/vsec (VSEC 39.19, -0.75, -1.88%) recently hosted a meeting between the United States and Pakistan Navies to solidify an agreement for the transfer of the USS McInerney, which is scheduled to be decommissioned this summer.

Pakistan Navy Captain Abdul Rehman signed a Letter of Offer and Acceptance to initiate the ship transfer. Captain Rehman is assigned to the Embassy of Pakistan as Attache for Defense Procurement (Air Force/Navy). U.S. Navy Captain Chris Pietras represented the Naval Sea Systems Command in accepting the offer.

For VSE's Naval Ship Transfer and Repair Team, the agreement translates into a contract covering training responsibilities. VSE will support U.S. Navy training of the 248 Pakistani crew members, beginning this month, until the ship is officially transferred around the end of August. In the near future, VSE will develop a work package for approval by the Pakistan Navy. After the transfer, VSE will manage a shipyard industrial availability contract to make ship repairs that will extend its life. During the availability the VSE's Ship Training and Assistance Team (STAT) will provide hands on maintenance and operational training for the Pakistan crew.

In January 2011, the VSE STAT is scheduled to conduct underway training for the crew, with a final evaluation by the U.S. Navy Afloat Training Group on the ability of the Pakistan crew to operate the ship and equipment in a safe-to-sail manner. Afterwards, the crew will sail the ship home to Karachi, Pakistan. A small contingent of the VSE Transfer Assistance Team personnel will accompany the ship and provide additional underway training.

VSE CEO Maurice "Mo" Gauthier said, "Together, with our customers and the highly experienced and competent team we have assembled, we are confident that we will meet and exceed the requirements of this allied mission. We look forward to the challenge."

"Our expertise with training, equipment repair, and working in tandem with both the U.S. and Pakistan Navies will be a rewarding experience and great collaborative opportunity," added Mike Hamerly, President of International Group.
 
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US Navy Flight Tests New Raytheon SM-2 Target Detecting Device
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Released on Thursday, January 22, 2009

U.S. Navy Flight Tests New Raytheon SM-2 Target Detecting Device

POINT MUGU, Calif., Jan. 22, 2009 /PRNewswire/ -- The U.S. Navy flight tested Raytheon Company's new Standard Missile-2 target detecting device. The SM-2 Block IIIB flight was the lowest altitude intercept to date using the new device, which enhances the SM-2's ability to detect and destroy threats.

The missile was fired from USS STERETT (DDG-104) during combined combat system ship qualification trials. The test flights included additional SM-2 Block IIIA, SM-2 Block IIIB and SM-2 Block III missiles. The missiles engaged multiple targets under stressing conditions representing a variety of threat scenarios.

"These tests demonstrate the reliability and accuracy of SM-2 as it continues to evolve," said Ron Shields, Raytheon Missile Systems Standard Missile program director. "The SM-2's ability to successfully employ this new target detecting device against challenging targets enhances the missile's usefulness to the warfighter."

SM-2 Block IIIB is an anti-air warfare weapon system deployed by the U.S. Navy for long-range ship self defense and has a range of 90 nautical miles (167 km or 103 statute miles). The SM-2 Block IIIB missile adds an infrared seeker to its proven guidance section to defeat target countermeasures and provide enhanced performance against supersonic, high-G maneuvering sea skimming air-to-surface missiles.


"This test once again proves why SM-2 is the U.S. Navy's front line self-defense weapon," said Kirk Johnson, U.S. Navy's Standard Missile program manager. "SM-2 provides the warfighter with the most modern solution against air-to-surface missiles, and it continues to evolve to meet our future needs."
 
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Growler clarified in the beginning that his assumption was that Pakistan would equip the FFG's with the MK-13 and SM2 combo.

Now you can disagree with that and point out that there is no information on what sorts of weapons fit Pakistan will select, but no need to drag it out beyond that.

If there are credible reasons why you think the SM2 will not be available to Pakistan, or why the Brahmos is 'invincible' feel free to provide them, but move on from arguing over the fact that the weapons system for the FFG's have not been announced yet.

P.S: Stop calling people names, trolls and using large size fonts please. Agree to disagree and move on.
 
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In a scenario where 8 FFGs are operating together in PAK small territorial waters of Arabian sea it will be quite hard for many or some bharamos to slip through.
Turkey has also offered Pakistan their GENESİS Combat Management System.
A state-of-the-art combat management system to quickly, efficiently and effectively detect, identify, track and engage air, surface and subsurface
threats across multiple radar and surveillance systems for optimum awareness and decision making.


According the latest issue of Turkish S&H magazine(04.05.2010), Havelsan has agreed on USA to modernizate the Perry class friagates that Pakistan navy will take delivery !!!


 
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According the latest issue of Turkish S&H magazine(04.05.2010), Havelsan has agreed on USA to modernizate the Perry class friagates that Pakistan navy will take delivery !!!

That is great news. I am guessing it will be the genesis program that Havelsan worked with Raytheon on.


nvm you posted the video.

That is great though. More cooperation with our Pakistani brothers.

:pakistan::cheers:
 
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Genesis technology has been fully developed by Havelsan but It is a USA designed warship which Havelsan aspired to modernizate so USA jumped our technology in to export it togather with Turkey !!!

Ah. Did the U.S. frigates undergo this program also ?
 
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BTW, Havelsan-Aselsan have made additional works on Genesis and upgraded this technology to fire every type Vertical launch Missile system to integrate on current and future Naval platforms of Turkey and ally countries...

That's the additional system which provide Genesis to fire Vertical launchable missile systems. It is called like Genesis-VLS...

 
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Ah. Did the U.S. frigates undergo this program also ?

Yes, It is also possible, If Havelsan accept releasing source-codes of Genesis for USA but I think USA will use Genesis modernizated Perry frigates for export markets !!!
 
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G class frigate
G class frigate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

G class is one of the frigate classes of the Turkish Navy. They are extensively modernized versions of ex-Oliver Hazard Perry class guided-missile frigates, mainly designed for air defense with a weapons configuration that is optimized for general warfare. A total of eight G-class frigates are currently operated by the Turkish Navy. They are named as TCG Gaziantep (F 490), TCG Giresun (F 491), TCG Gemlik (F 492), TCG Gelibolu (F 493), TCG Gökçeada (F 494), TCG Gediz (F 495), TCG Gökova (F 496) and TCG Göksu (F 497).

G class frigates have undergone a major modernization program which included the retrofitting of a Turkish digital combat management system named GENESIS (Gemi Entegre Savaş İdare Sistemi). The first GENESIS upgraded ship was delivered in 2007, and the last delivery is scheduled for 2011.

The GENESIS advanced combat management system includes the following characteristics and abilities:

* A modern and reliable system;
* High performance;
* Open architecture;
* Capacity of tracking more than 1,000 tactical targets;
* Modern digital sensor data fusion;
* Automatic threat evaluation;
* Weapon engagement opportunities;
* Link-16/22 system integration.

The modernization program also includes:

* The addition of an 8-cell Mk-41 VLS for Evolved Sea Sparrow, including the upgrade of the Mk-92 fire control system by Lockheed Martin;
* The retrofitting of a new advanced 3D air search radar;
* The addition of a new long range sonar.


The Mk-41 VLS will be fitted in front of the Mk.13 launchers, similar to their installation on the Adelaide class frigates of the Royal Australian Navy, which are Australian-built derivatives of the Oliver Hazard Perry class frigates.

The "short hull" ex-Perry class frigates that are currently being operated by the Turkish Navy were modified with the ASIST landing platform system at the Istanbul Naval Shipyard, so that they can accommodate the S-70B Seahawk helicopters.
 
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@ cabatli_53
bro do you have any information about Genesis CMS ability to detect short range ballistic missiles at final phase of flight and guide SM-2 block 4 which has capability to destroy the BM at final phase of flight!?

another question. What type of 3d radar will the Turkish FFGs be upgraded with? Kindly provide the specs. and how much does the GENESIS program costs? will it also include the new 3d radar if PN FFGs are also upgraded with it?

thanks
 
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@ cabatli_53
bro do you have any information about Genesis CMS ability to detect short range ballistic missiles at final phase of flight and guide SM-2 block 4 which has capability to destroy the BM at final phase of flight!?

http://www.raytheon.com/businesses/rtnwcm/groups/public/documents/content/rtn09_bus_genesis_pdf.pdf

This PDF gives a good breakdown of capabilities between the original and Genesis.



Also here is a Janes article about it.




Under the G-Class Frigate CMS (combat management system Modernisation Programme (G-GCMP), the Turkish Naval Forces Command is implementing a comprehensive combat management, fire control and tactical datalink modernisation for its eight ex-USN FFG-7 frigates, now known locally as the G-class.
Central to this effort is the introduction of the GENESIS (Gemi Entegre Savas; Idare Sistemi) open architecture CMS, a system nurtured within the navy's own Software Development Centre in Golcuk then subsequently migrated to Havelsan for further development and production.
According to Havelsan, GENESIS modernises and expands the C2 functionality offered by the legacy FFG-7 tactical data handling system, while at the same time leveraging its original foundation to interface with ship's sensors, weapons and platform data. GENESIS has been developed by Havelsan, under the sponsorship of the navy and the Turkish Undersecretariat of Defence (SSM), as a 'common core' architecture to meet a range of ship- and shore-based requirements; other variants are being developed for the MILGEM corvette project and land-based command, control, communication, computer and intelligence (C4I) centres.
As part of the G-GCMP upgrade, the new GENESIS CMS is intended to significantly reduce anti-ship missile defence reaction time (and so increase the weapon engagement window), improve situational awareness and support tactical decision-making by exploiting modern COTS computers and network technology. Key features include automatic detection and tracking, automated reaction functionality, a multiilink capability and embedded onboard training software.


Havelsan points out that the legacy FFG-7 combat direction system suffers from a series of shortcomings including: an obsolete hardware design that comprises performance and reliability; limited track capacity (64 targets) as a result of the limited memory (386 kb) of the old AN/UYK-7 Weapon System Processor (WSP); manual tracking of air and surface targets, limiting the accuracy and number of tracks; an outdated, low-resolution human machine interface; manual decoy launching capability only; no integration of the Phalanx CIWS (operates in autonomous Mode only); and limitations in processing and communication result in slow detect-to-engage times. The company also points out that the legacy system has limited future growth capacity due to its central processor architecture.
GENESIS runs on a redundant Gigabit Ethernet LAN and interfaces with all weapon, sensor and platform systems through common subsystem interface units (SIU). A central interface unit replaces both weapon control consoles (WCCs) and is interfaced via an SIU to GENESIS, enabling all WCC functions to be performed by GENESIS consoles.
The WSP is replaced with an open and distributed architecture CMS that runs on modern COTS processors and workstations. While the Mk 92 Mod 2 fire-control system remains, the UYK-7 computer that was used as the WSP is reconfigured as a cold backup replacement of the Mk 92 WCP.
The GENESIS implementation on board the Gaziantep class sees the original Command Integration Capability equipment stripped out, with all legacy OJ-197 and OJ-194 consoles removed together with the WCCs associated with the Mk 92 fire-control system. In their place, the GENESIS fit for G-GCMP introduces eight operator consoles with dual flat panel displays; two tactical consoles with side-by-side displays; and a large screen display. Additional features include integrated video distribution with multiple topside cameras, customised commanding officer and bridge displays, and digital data recording.
According to Havelsan, GENESIS is able to manage up to 1,000 tracks, and is able to perform automatic detection, tracking and correlation with multiple radars. As well as the SPS-49 radar, the system also integrates the Decca navigation radar, IFF (identification, friend-or-foe) and Phalanx CIWS. In the latter case, Phalanx can operate in either standalone or remote modes controlled by GENESIS, offering a capability to be used against air and surface targets at short range. Also, GENESIS enables Phalanx to engage a Mk 92 target.
Harpoon is integrated into GENESIS using a six-word direct interface. Background information can be supplied to the system automatically, reducing engagement planning time and improving accuracy.
Chaff/infrared decoy control functionality is embedded in GENESIS. This enables automatic threat identification, decoy launch and speed/course to steer recommendations to maximise effectiveness.
A new MilSOFT-developed Multi Purpose Tactical Datalink System (MP-TDLS) is also being implemented. MP-TDLS provides a seamless Link 11/16 capability, with potential future growth to Link 22.
The first GENESIS fit to TCG Gemlik was completed in mid-2007 and a further three ships have since received the system.


http://ihracat.ssm.gov.tr/TR/Pages/20091226_janes.aspx
 
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@ cabatli_53
bro do you have any information about Genesis CMS ability to detect short range ballistic missiles at final phase of flight and guide SM-2 block 4 which has capability to destroy the BM at final phase of flight!?

Bro,

I think The detecting the ballistic missiles are interested in the radar capabilities of naval assets. Genesis has been upgraded to launch every type verical launcable missile system including SM-2 but If Perry do not have a radar, which is capable of detecting-tracking ballistic missiles to guide SM-2 to engage, Any type electronics in World can not do anything for that. CMS's are the intelligent softwares and user interfaces asselerating the agreement time and direct naval officiers to manage the ship armaments effectively.
 
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@ cabatli_53

another question. What type of 3d radar will the Turkish FFGs be upgraded with? Kindly provide the specs. and how much does the GENESIS program costs? will it also include the new 3d radar if PN FFGs are also upgraded with it?

thanks

Bro,

3D radars are about the demand of costumers. Havelsan engineers can easily integrate every type Naval 3D radars to Genesis. Turkey has selected Thales Smart-S 3D radars to modernizate Perry class frigates with Genesis. The modernization includes MK-41 Vertical Launch system and ESSM missiles as well...

The estimate cost is kept secret bro. Unfortunately, I can not help you about price...
 
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