Pakistan Naval Aviation - Updated

[Blue Marlin]

Operating cost is high...

thats why i said save up for them. pakistan should be a country that should already have this ship.

CASA has more range?

the atr 72 is a larger airframe.
i can't work out the range as the c295 range is calculated on payload as the atr is most probably done by take of weight.

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

thats why i said save up for them. pakistan should be a country that should already have this ship.

the atr 72 is a larger airframe.
i can't work out the range as the c295 range is calculated on payload as the atr is most probably done by take of weight.
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Bro,
I know this but I wanted to know how the Turkish are using them ATR's and CASA's together.
PN already operates the P3c's which give it enough range to cover the entire region. ATR's are to replace the older F-27's.

 

[Blue Marlin]

Bro,
I know this but I wanted to know how the Turkish are using them ATR's and CASA's together.
PN already operates the P3c's which give it enough range to cover the entire region. ATR's are to replace the older F-27's.

i would say in small numbers , but they can still operate them in large numbers as they have a very large coast . its navy has to contend with two oceans. where as Pakistan does quiet a few need a lot of them, about 12 to replace the f27 and Breguet Atlantic you already have 2 of them, and money is being cleared for two more atr's. so a 8 more would do just fine.

i would look at buying y-8q submarine hunters. as they are simply really the best option but it wont be cheap.

now that i look at the inventory you can do with some replacements such as, replacing the sea kings helicopters and the Aérospatiale Alouette III SA-319B helicopters as well.

 

[Neptune]

CASA has more range?

Yes. CN-235 has more. Like 2,7 times more than that of ATR-72/600

 

[fatman17]

As someone said the 2 platforms will be used in high lo configuration. High for the P3C and lo for the ATR. Coastal defence is getting important now. P3C for long range sub hunting will be adequate.

 

[Rashid Mahmood]

Replacement of a platform is not easy at all.

Some members on this forum talk about replacement of subs, ships, aircraft's & helicopters like it's replacing a car.
It takes years of planning, finances, availability, developing new tactics, crew training's, service support setup, SOPs...etc.

No two platforms are the same, so they require different SOPs, and new tactics have to be made.

There are specialist personnel, who keep studying and planning such requirements all year round.

 

[Amaa'n]

Replacement of a platform is not easy at all.

Some members on this forum talk about replacement of subs, ships, aircraft's & helicopters like it's replacing a car.
It takes years of planning, finances, availability, developing new tactics, crew training's, service support setup, SOPs...etc.

No two platforms are the same, so they require different SOPs, and new tactics have to be made.

There are specialist personnel, who keep studying and planning such requirements all year round.

this is what many of our Pakistani members don't like to consider, even if it is merely a Battle Rifle, muscle memory, training, handling, SOPs are very important and require resources

 

[Arsalan]

Anka is being co produced...
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co produced? By PAC and TAI??? PLEASE Stop misleading.

Rumours are of Hurkus, frigates and also there was one for the old u-boats (U209) can be coming to Pakistan...T129 was lost because of sanctions on Pakistan and then they being direct competitor to the A1-H1Z and Apache so you can imagine US would not have given the engine.

Yes there was a reported interest in Turkish frigates and MUCH MORE interest and even official confirmation of this interest in the Milgem Corvettes but even that was never finalized of proceeded with let alone the frigate projects. U-209 was a hoax, not even was a proper rumor in fact. There was absolutely no truth in that. Also please note that there are no sanctions on Pakistan regarding T-129. The T-129 uses American/European components and that made it sanction prone and not very reliable. You are right that American wont have liked giving the engines when the product was to compete there own in export. That do not means there were some sanctions on Pakistan.

The A1-H1Z also came when China said it is going to supply Z-10 and Russia's interest in Mi-35M, or the Mi-28 super hind updated by South Africa. With the deal of Iran signed this opens up the Iranian made Toofan 2 or its upgrade for Pakistan as well

Absolutely right about the Cobra offer considering with the Z-10 and Russian options, the timing was so perfect to be a mere coincidence. Not so sure about the toofan, with sanctions lifted, perhaps Iranians wont be using them themselves.

 

[fatman17]

Seaking employed in flood relief ops

 

[fatman17]

Navy Alouette parked on a US aircraft carrier in the Arabian Sea

 

[Blue Marlin]

Seaking employed in flood relief ops

how old are those birds?

 

[fatman17]

how old are those birds?

From this year. 4000 people have been rescued by navy so far from upper Sindh - khairpur area.

 

[MastanKhan]

Replacement of a platform is not easy at all.

Some members on this forum talk about replacement of subs, ships, aircraft's & helicopters like it's replacing a car.
It takes years of planning, finances, availability, developing new tactics, crew training's, service support setup, SOPs...etc.

No two platforms are the same, so they require different SOPs, and new tactics have to be made.

There are specialist personnel, who keep studying and planning such requirements all year round.

Hi,

It takes about 8 to 10 years from day one of planning---testing---ordering----production and manufacturing---delivery and then the most important of all---training and integration. Sometimes longer.

For that very reason---major weapons purchases must never be stopped once the go ahead is given and the deal signed----.

 

[Blue Marlin]

From this year. 4000 people have been rescued by navy so far from upper Sindh - khairpur area.

wow so they earned they keep alright. good job

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

Navy Alouette parked on a US aircraft carrier in the Arabian Sea

When was this ?