Pakistan intelligence rift shows deepening US frustration: analysts

[nitesh]

You got to be kidding me. Truth alone wins is your national motto, that got to be the biggest joke of the millennium.

Then enlighten us that what is the motto of our nation?

 

[IceCold]

Then enlighten us that what is the motto of our nation?

I think you should have the guts to know and accept what it really is other then hiding behind doors made up of sand.

 

[nitesh]

You do even for a mouse that is killed in India. Only this time a person from your very own opposition party exposed the real culprits. It must have been a heart broken for you guys sadly but true.

So now when the hell one mouse got killed and it has been blamed to pakistan, stop arguing baselessly. Now one person has some opinion so she has it what's the big deal.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

it seeks to coerse Pakistani compliance --

I was going to make the same observations - a series of well timed "anonymous sourced" and damning articles (each one getting successively more direct in its accusations) - it all points to a well organized witch hunt through the media in order to bring pressure on a "democratic government".

The US cannot be seen as overthrowing or blatantly disrespecting the wishes of the 'democratic government', and so shifts blame onto a secondary source (ISI) of problems. One which is painted out to be stronger than the GoP, and has 'hijacked the state'.

I find it interesting that Mazetti, in order to blunt one line of argument, states as fact that the agents allegedly 'intercepted' were not 'rogues'. Do agents have official 'rogue' or 'non rogue' titles?

 

[nitesh]

I think you should have the guts to know and accept what it really is other then hiding behind doors made up of sand.

The same applies to you

 

[Spring Onion]

You shouldn't either... we haven't invented a virus that is capable enough to penetrate those defences...

can a virus invent another virus??


Ok Neo jee back to the topic. Neo jee as you are good at taking caring of ladies so

back to the topic ladies

 

[muse]

Indeed, some have been getting "hot" on other threads - but Mr. Mazzetti and the agenda presented were "Made" as soon as the article was published.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out - I find it difficult to associate "lived to a ripe old age" and "died peacefully in his bed" with the likes of Messiers karzai and Zardari.

 

[IceCold]

The same applies to you

Look who's talking. At least we don't blame others right within the very first hour of a bomb blast that it is the doing of GOI or RAW.

 

[IceCold]

So now when the hell one mouse got killed and it has been blamed to pakistan, stop arguing baselessly. Now one person has some opinion so she has it what's the big deal.

MOD EDIT: No personal attacks please - Every single act of anything bad happening in India is blamed on Pakistan or ISI and that too right within the very next hour of the attack. If this is not equalivent to a mouse killing then God knows what is.

 

[nitesh]

Look who's talking. At least we don't blame others right within the very first hour of a bomb blast that it is the doing of GOI or RAW.

But the blame happens right. So what's the difference.

 

[muse]

Stop!! These are discussions, why call each other names? I mean is it worth calling each other names? Hell No!!

Sorry, I don't want to come across as a heavy, but really...it's not even silly, it's meanness and nobody needs that.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Those taking the word of the CIA as 'Gospel' need to remember that it is an intelligence agency of the United States set up to further the interests of the United States, not some charitable, neutral NGO trying to present an objective and fair analysis of world affairs.

To project, protect and further US interests is all the agency stands for, and at the moment, given the frustration within the US military establishment at the refusal of the GoP to be proactive, and the refusal of the military to take a front seat (rightly so, it is not its job to be determining which policy to follow), the interests of the US stand in getting the GoP to do what it wants in FATA.

And therefore we are starting to see this concerted drive to shift blame onto a secondary 'state within a state' actor.

The goals are clear, pressure the GoP to take action where it has so far been unwilling to, and in that respect the motivation behind these series of articles and 'revelations' is far from clean.

 

[Spring Onion]

Neo, Agnostic danda le ke aa gaye .

Ladies behave well

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Merging thread with existing ISI - CIA tensions thread.

 

[Spring Onion]

Those taking the word of the CIA as 'Gospel' need to remember that it is an intelligence agency of the United States set up to further the interests of the United States, not some charitable, neutral NGO trying to present an objective and fair analysis of world affairs.

To project, protect and further US interests is all the agency stands for, and at the moment, given the frustration within the US military establishment at the refusal of the GoP to be proactive, and the refusal of the military to take a front seat (rightly so, it is not its job to be determining which policy to follow), the interests of the US stand in getting the GoP to do what it wants in FATA.

And therefore we are starting to see this concerted drive to shift blame onto a secondary 'state within a state' actor.

The goals are clear, pressure the GoP to take action where it has so far been unwilling to, and in that respect the motivation behind these series of articles and 'revelations' is far from clean.

Rightly said Agno as i said before look at the chronology of Blam gamen against ISI by Karzai, India and CIA.

And the events took place after specillay the attempt by CIA and US to bring ISI under the ministery of Rehman Malik -- an Unelected-- person.

Its such a pitty that after failur to do so CIA has come up with this new pack of lies.

And only idiots can believe in CIA sepcially when own secrete agencies of US including CIA and FBI are not on the same length with each other how can CIA be with a foreign agency.