Pakistan humiliated over terror as it seeks support on Kashmir

[Moonlight]

http://www.newsgram.com/india-kashmiri-youths-defy-threats-to-join-armed-forces/




Army post, Kashmir Image Source: Wikimedia Commons

Gulfam Asim Khan is among thousands of jobless and educated young Kashmiris who are defying warnings from armed separatists by pursuing careers in the Indian armed forces and security services.

Last week, the 22-year-old appeared for a written test that is a prerequisite for signing up with the army.

“I am passionate about joining the army. I am hopeful that I will clear the written test, and my dream of becoming a soldier will come true,” Khan, a Kupwara resident, told BenarNews.

He was one of 12,000 potential recruits who underwent a series of rigorous physical tests in the volatile Kupwara district of Indian-administered Kashmir between May 19 and May 21, although the banned separatist outfit Hizbul Mujahideen (HM) had recently threatened to kill anyone who joined the Indian military or security agencies.


Six hundred of the applicants were shortlisted for the written exam.

But just a day before Khan sat for the Indian Army entrance test on Thursday, army porter Liyaqat Ali, 22, was gunned down by suspected HM militants in Kupwara.

Khan, a resident of the district, shrugged off the threats.

“I don’t care about the threats. If these threats begin to scare us, we will not be able to do any jobs. Where would educated Kashmiri youths like me go? There is already a massive dearth of jobs in the private sector in the state,” Khan said.

A new trend

A separatist insurgency in Jammu and Kashmir, which is claimed in its entirety by India and Pakistan, has killed more than 70,000 people since the late 1980s.

Kashmiri applicants sit for the Indian Army’s entrance exam in Kupwara, Kashmir, May 21, 2016 Image Source: BenarNews
The Indian Army said it had advertised 55 vacancies, for which it received more than 12,000 applications – a sharp contrast to the early 1990s, when Kashmiri youth stayed away from joining the armed forces.

“It is a good sign that more and more Kashmiris are gradually showing interest in joining the army so that they can contribute to nation-building in a better way,” Col. C.B.S. Bhadwal, commanding officer of the Kupwara-based 160 Territorial Army, responsible for the recruitment drive, told BenarNews.

The results of the written exam will be publicized in June, Bhadwal said.

Ishfaq Ahmad, a 25-year-old graduate from the town of Karnah, which is close to the Line of Control (LoC) – the boundary that separates the parts of Kashmir that are claimed by India and Pakistan, respectively, said the army should have advertised more vacancies.

“Considering the joblessness in Kashmir, the army should have advertised at least 1,000 jobs so educated youths in the state have enough opportunities to make something of their lives,” Ahmad told BenarNews.

According to official figures, about 600,000 Kashmiris between the ages of 20 and 30 are unemployed.

“The threats from separatists notwithstanding, we have to work to earn money. Besides, one who aspires to be a soldier must be prepared to face and overcome such challenges,” said Shamim Ahmad Khan, 24, who applied for one of the 55 vacancies.

“The pay in the Indian Army is decent so I didn’t want to lose out on this opportunity,” Khan told Benar. (Source: Benarnews)
Whatever suits you..

And this is the level of authenticity? An Indian random website is posting it and you believe I will find it bona fide.

Pakistanis also watch Bollywood...

Don't humiliate yourself..

Ok fine but this filth is coming out of your side.

 

[Paranoid Android]

And this is the level of authenticity? An Indian random website is posting it and you believe I will find it bona fide.



Ok fine but this filth is coming out of your side.

You don't need to believe

 

[Moonlight]

You don't need to believe

And you need to stop believing in lies too. be wise.

 

[haviZsultan]

We should not ignore what they are saying. Pakistan is increasingly becoming isolated. People who don't see this have way too much bravado and false sense of security. I am a Pakistani nationalist and I recognize that our traitorous American allies have abandoned us. Pakistanis should recognize it too.

Their support for Indian version of events on Mumbai, their blaming us for violence in Afghanistan, setting a bounty on Hafiz Saeed, refusal to sign a nuke deal with us, refusal to fund our F16's, Rohrabacher's propaganda against our ethnic unity points to the same isolation we received during years of the presler amendment but India didn't recieve during its smiling buddha tests. I warned that the time would come when America would abandon us again as it did not need us after using us to defeat the Soviets. That time has now come.

We need to abandon our false bravado and develop an independent foreign policy. India has won. India has won in convincing the world we are the epicenter of terrorism financing and support. The only ally we have left is China. Or who am I fooling. Zardari's years with people like Asma Jehangir and Hussain Haqqani could also have already lost us that.

 

[fsayed]

WASHINGTON: Pakistan was humiliated on the world stage on Wednesday after it attempted to crank up international pressure on India on the Kashmir issue.

A range of lawmakers, analysts, and diplomats called Pakistan a terrorist entity, said it should be denied foreign aid, and proposed that its leaders, including its military generals, be sanctioned and stopped from traveling to the United States for consistently cheating the world community on terrorism.

A congressional hearing in Washington and the United Nations general assembly were the forums for Pakistan's public shaming after its representatives tried to rake up the Kashmir situation in the wake of the violence in the Indian state.

Accusing his counterpart of misusing the UN platform with phony concern about human rights, India's permanent representative at the UN Syed Akbaruddin lashed out at Pakistan, calling it "a country that covets the territory of others; a country that uses terrorism as state policy towards that misguided end; a country that extols the virtues of terrorists and that provides sanctuary to UN-designated terrorists."

"Pakistan is the same country whose track record has failed to convince the international community to gain membership of the UN human rights council in this very session of the UNGA," Akbaruddin sneered, saying the "international community has long seen through such designs" and such "cynical attempts find no resonance in this forum or elsewhere in the United Nations". He asserted that "as a diverse, pluralistic and tolerant society, India's commitment to the rule of law, democracy and human rights is enshrined in its founding principles."

The Indian riposte came even as Pakistan's terrorist poster-boy and UN-designated terrorist Hafiz Saeed threatened escalation of violence in Kashmir. Hafiz also met with Syed Salahuddin, the Kashmiri separatist leader who incites violence in the state from the safety of ***.

Meanwhile, Saeed's Twitter account @hafizsaeedlive was suspended for inciting violence, reportedly on a complaint from New Delhi, even as the US expanded its drone strikes to eliminate Omar Mansour, the terrorist accused of the attack on the Pakistani army-run public school in Peshawar that killed 130 school children.

India's excoriation of Pakistan was mild compared to what transpired in the US Congress a few hours before. US lawmakers and experts testifying before a congressional panel called for designating Pakistan a state sponsor of terrorism and for cutting off all aid to Islamabad.

One analyst, Long War Journal's Bill Roggio, went so far as to recommend even cutting off educational aid (which some lawmakers wanted retained), because, he argued, money is "fungible" and what was given as education or humanitarian aid freed up other moneys for Pakistan's general fattened on US aid.

It was arguably the harshest indictment of Pakistan in congressional hearing history as lawmakers holding the hearing and those testifying before it shamed the country for repeatedly hoodwinking successive US administrations on the issue of terrorism, milking Washington for aid while promising to change course.

"They are making chumps out of us. They see us being so stupid. It seems like paying the mafia," said congressman Matt Salmon, who was holding the hearing.

"If I may use an undiplomatic term, we have been patsies," said former US ambassador to Afghanistan and Bush era diplomat Zalmay Khalilzad.

"Chumps ... patsies ... idiots," Salmon concurred.

Khalidzad described how Pakistan manipulated the US by reaching out to US officials and lawmakers with a charm offensive each time it had its back to the wall, promising to change, but then not changing after collecting the money and the pressure eased off. He reminded the panel of how Musharraf had maintained terrorism was fine as long as it was directed against India.

The harsh indictment came even as Pakistan moved swiftly to take advantage of the insurrection in Kashmir, calling on the UN, US and other major western countries to intervene.

But Washington declined to be baited into the situation, asserting that at a state department briefing that is policy and position regarding the Kashmir issue had not changed.




At the congressional hearing, Roggio maintained that Pakistan's support for terrorism extended beyond the Kashmir issue; it was part of a strategic depth policy based on a paranoid assessment of India.




Pakistan will not change its calculus until it is severely sanctioned, both Roggio and Khalidzad argued, calling for ending all foreign aid and funding, cutting off visas for all Pakistanis including its politicians and generals.

Khalidzad went so far as to suggest the US should use its clout with the IMF to shut down even that source of funding for Pakistan.


No lawmaker disagreed. Not one stood up for Pakistan.

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We should not ignore what they are saying. Pakistan is increasingly becoming isolated. People who don't see this have way too much bravado and false sense of security. I am a Pakistani nationalist and I recognize that our traitorous American allies have abandoned us. Pakistanis should recognize it too.

Their support for Indian version of events on Mumbai, their blaming us for violence in Afghanistan, setting a bounty on Hafiz Saeed, refusal to sign a nuke deal with us, refusal to fund our F16's, Rohrabacher's propaganda against our ethnic unity points to the same isolation we received during years of the presler amendment but India didn't recieve during its smiling buddha tests. I warned that the time would come when America would abandon us again as it did not need us after using us to defeat the Soviets. That time has now come.

We need to abandon our false bravado and develop an independent foreign policy. India has won. India has won in convincing the world we are the epicenter of terrorism financing and support. The only ally we have left is China. Or who am I fooling. Zardari's years with people like Asma Jehangir and Hussain Haqqani could also have already lost us that.

Real patriotic Pakistani u r good Muslim too who can see his or her short coming and do the course correction is real Muslim

 

[django]

What about the Kashmiris joining Indian forces,providing intel & shooting brotherly Kashmiris??
A major portion of Kashmiris support India too..
In your dream Pakistan can get Kashmir.Pakistan should concentrate in it's internal issues more..
All Hizbul Chizbul drama is funded by neighbor..

Dream on, perhaps a few of those pandits that did not flee when their was actually no need to flee.

 

[Paranoid Android]

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https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1092057170874980

This speaks for itself

Whenever matter of patriotism Comes or want to bash Indians you people start posting Sikh images.. Believe me more than 90% sikh Punjabis in India hate Pakistan like us... They are the biggest server of Indian army... Inferiority complex...
There are Sikhs in others countries too & that doesn't mean everyone considers himself as Indian..LOL

 

[hassamun]

Pakistan has helped even where its almost impossible...As per the Daily Bhaskar, there was a WikiLeak in which Pakistan warned America and Israel regarding possible attacks in Jewish Centers in India...Why would Pakistan do this?

Washington: Pakistan and Israel have no diplomatic ties but a year after 26/11 Islamabad shared intelligence information with Israel regarding possible terrorist attacks against Jewish and Israeli sites in India, according to a leaked US diplomatic cable.

The head of Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) agency, Ahmad Shuja Pasha, told the then US ambassador Anne Patterson that he had conveyed intelligence on potential terror attacks in India to Israel, according to the Oct 7, 2009 document leaked by WikiLeaks.

He told the diplomat that he had travelled to Oman and Iran to investigate information he received from the US about possible pending attacks in India.

"Pasha asked Ambassador to convey to Washington that he had followed up on threat information that an attack would be launched against India between September-November. He had been in direct touch with the Israelis on possible threats against Israeli targets in India," the cable read.

A few weeks before the cable was written, the Israeli Counter-Terror Bureau had issued a travel advisory warning of possible attacks against Israeli sites in India.

A total of 166 people were killed in the Nov 26, 2008 terror attacks in Mumbai, including an attack against the local Chabad house, blamed on Pakistan based terror outfit Lashkar-e-Taiba.

 

[American Pakistani]

Who gives a fk what Indians bark, pakistan should keep raising the Indian occupational terrorism in IOK, Indian occupied Kashmir.

 

[mingle]

Ha ha Times of India

 

[DesiGuy1403]

Pakistan has just ONE ally and that too a dubious one in China.
The moment China feels it has to spend a lot of political capital backing Pakistan, they will bail out as well.

Right now, our neighbour has only one choice. Renounce terrorism as a state tool. Look at what happened to Iraq and Syria. If anyone for a moment is thinking US can not do to Pakistan what it did to Iraq, they are only kidding themselves.

 

[FullMetalJacket]

Calm down dude calm down.

These poor people are being oppressed by Indian forces for nothing, but standing for freedom. In past few days 41 people lost their lives, 1500+ are injured and some severed injured.
Their leaders are intervene. There's curfew for last 6 days.
Today on 13th July, when they wanted to protest and Indian forces intervene their freedom fighters. Net service is down, just so they can't raise their voices on social media. They are torturing people in hospitals. In a single day, people in 100s are getting paralyzed and 100s of people are getting their eye operated. And many are going forever blinds due to tear gas and pallet fires by Indian forces. No one is paying any attention to their pains. They should be given all the rights to chose whom they want to be with.
And this is your right policy? Seriously? If you think USA or India can threaten Pakistan then wake up not anymore. USA knows the importance of Pakistan too.


KASHMIR BANAY GA PAKISTAN. .

You and the Kashmiris can holler all you want. Our part of Kashmir will always be ours. Your ramblings, prophecies and whatever maniacal dribble won't change a thing. You've been chanting this "Kashmir Banay Ga Pakistan" crap since 65', the only thing you really got out of it is humiliation, that and we had to alter the world map.

 

[Joe Shearer]

We should not ignore what they are saying. Pakistan is increasingly becoming isolated. People who don't see this have way too much bravado and false sense of security. I am a Pakistani nationalist and I recognize that our traitorous American allies have abandoned us. Pakistanis should recognize it too.

Their support for Indian version of events on Mumbai, their blaming us for violence in Afghanistan, setting a bounty on Hafiz Saeed, refusal to sign a nuke deal with us, refusal to fund our F16's, Rohrabacher's propaganda against our ethnic unity points to the same isolation we received during years of the presler amendment but India didn't recieve during its smiling buddha tests. I warned that the time would come when America would abandon us again as it did not need us after using us to defeat the Soviets. That time has now come.

We need to abandon our false bravado and develop an independent foreign policy. India has won. India has won in convincing the world we are the epicenter of terrorism financing and support. The only ally we have left is China. Or who am I fooling. Zardari's years with people like Asma Jehangir and Hussain Haqqani could also have already lost us that.

India has not won. Pakistan has lost. That is the difference between your very perceptive and insightful analysis and my own view. India was not seeking Pakistani isolation; there is no national policy seeking that. Instead, there has been very effective Indian highlighting of her own position on various issues, and, of course, very strong messages to the world on the issue of terrorism, linked to specific acts of terrorism committed against India and Indian citizens.

It is time for Pakistan to seriously quell its own internal support and encouragement of terrorist groups and their overground sympathisers. Unfortunately, asymmetric warfare has been a special interest of the Pakistani military right from the inception of Pakistan and the start of the Pakistan Army; it will be difficult to stop people planning on such extra-military support and implementing complementary steps.

As for China, Pakistan is vulnerable to a serious Indian initiative - on a sustained, long-range basis extending across decades, not episodic or sporadic - to get closer to China. Seriously vulnerable. It has nothing to do with individuals, it has to do with the calculus of support in the world community and the possibility of gaining an ally who can influence that community favourably. India, at the moment, has that potential.

Pakistan needs not a tactical review but a strategic rethink.

 

[yolo2016]

We should not ignore what they are saying. Pakistan is increasingly becoming isolated. People who don't see this have way too much bravado and false sense of security. I am a Pakistani nationalist and I recognize that our traitorous American allies have abandoned us. Pakistanis should recognize it too.

Their support for Indian version of events on Mumbai, their blaming us for violence in Afghanistan, setting a bounty on Hafiz Saeed, refusal to sign a nuke deal with us, refusal to fund our F16's, Rohrabacher's propaganda against our ethnic unity points to the same isolation we received during years of the presler amendment but India didn't recieve during its smiling buddha tests. I warned that the time would come when America would abandon us again as it did not need us after using us to defeat the Soviets. That time has now come.

We need to abandon our false bravado and develop an independent foreign policy. India has won. India has won in convincing the world we are the epicenter of terrorism financing and support. The only ally we have left is China. Or who am I fooling. Zardari's years with people like Asma Jehangir and Hussain Haqqani could also have already lost us that.

I'm curious about something- you ask people to pay attention to what is out there but then blame what is out there on Americans and everyone else but yourselfs. No different than those who you are addressing. Your reputation is not shared by just Americans, rather world over. Then you seem to do the very thing you ask others to not ignore i.e. ignore your "deeds" that led to your world wide reputation.

Why is it you judge us on F16s and not paying for it? Do you ask China for freebies when you buy from them? We know China refuses to give you aid, while we stupid americans keep giving billions, even when you have the worst of climate catastrophe- we give 50x time more in aid and help than your BFF.

 

[Joe Shearer]

This speaks for itself

There are many of us calling for peace in Kashmir. Is it sensible to pick out Simranjit Singh Mann and his loony bunch out of the lot? Do you think they are representative of Indian opinion?

There is growing alarm at the bloodshed and increasing concern at the injuries and deaths. That does not amount to disloyalty, that amounts to humanitarian concern, and an opposition to wholly coercive methods instead of a mix of firmness and readiness to take political and administrative steps to rectify the situation.

Article is published in Times of India . You can figure out the rest. Their generations have floated down Ganges waiting for Pakistan's collapse. Sometimes I pity their mental state.

With the greatest respect, I spend a lot of time trying to change the thinking of Indians who echo your last sentence. The difference is that they say it about you.