Pakistan humiliated over terror as it seeks support on Kashmir

[jamal18]

Yes, the US has killed more than a million in Iraq, 3,000 in FATA ,and its ally Israel is breaking every international law and killing Palestinians.

And its Pakistan that's in the dock?

The fight against terrorism goes on!

 

[Gufi]

To those who say that Pakistan has lost, open up google and type the word Kashmir and read the international coverage given to the matter.
The word terrorist is not used but militant and freedom struggle is mentioned with Muslim majority mentioned.
India has over played their democracy card which is really coming to bite it back.
And with the excessive use of force and video coverage of army shooting directly into protesters and rushing into hospitals, the facts are becoming more and more evident.
One can not hide brutality in this world of social media and smart phones...
The limited internet access in affected areas is curtailing more footage which will eventually emerge.
You can push down at something but it can not be finished and eventually your container cracks.

 

[DesiGuy1403]

To those who say that Pakistan has lost, open up google and type the word Kashmir and read the international coverage given to the matter.
The word terrorist is not used but militant and freedom struggle is mentioned with Muslim majority mentioned.
India has over played their democracy card which is really coming to bite it back.
And with the excessive use of force and video coverage of army shooting directly into protesters and rushing into hospitals, the facts are becoming more and more evident.
One can not hide brutality in this world of social media and smart phones...
The limited internet access in affected areas is curtailing more footage which will eventually emerge.
You can push down at something but it can not be finished and eventually your container cracks.

Yes sir. There is over whelming support all over the world for these terrorists.

To be blunt, this is all politics. In this game who ever has the might will emerge victorious. It has nothing to do with who is right or who is wrong. Right now we can sell our crap better than you can sell yours.

And in the context of things we are selling it much better. Not a pipsqueak from any country towards India barring Pakistan. Even your frand China is mum on this issue.

What does that tell you?

 

[Moonlight]

There are many of us calling for peace in Kashmir. Is it sensible to pick out Simranjit Singh Mann and his loony bunch out of the lot? Do you think they are representative of Indian opinion?

Those who are calling for peace desrve my respect. And you should read some previous posts before coming up with a conclusion. Indian members (majority of them) believe none of the Indian wants this bloodshed to end. That was just an example to let them know even your Sikh community is supporting Kashmiries. Self explanatory, Indian forces are humiliating Kashmiries.

There is growing alarm at the bloodshed and increasing concern at the injuries and deaths. That does not amount to disloyalty, that amounts to humanitarian concern, and an opposition to wholly coercive methods instead of a mix of firmness and readiness to take political and administrative steps to rectify the situation.

Already answered in my previous posts. You are taking it to a whole different direction. Not sure on purpose or misunderstood it. Anyhow, some Indians members actually need some examples to come out of denial mode that there's peace in Kashmir or there's no one standing up to stop this bloodshed.

 

[Pandora]

Another feel good thread after war crimes being comityed by Indian hindus in Kashmir. Pakistan will continue to aid kashmir in theor freedom struggle wherher its armed or moral support. More people they kill more they will rise up. This pathetic modi thought he can implement Israeil style coup in kashmir [emoji1]

 

[danger007]

Calm down dude calm down.

These poor people are being oppressed by Indian forces for nothing, but standing for freedom. In past few days 41 people lost their lives, 1500+ are injured and some severed injured.
Their leaders are intervene. There's curfew for last 6 days.
Today on 13th July, when they wanted to protest and Indian forces intervene their freedom fighters. Net service is down, just so they can't raise their voices on social media. They are torturing people in hospitals. In a single day, people in 100s are getting paralyzed and 100s of people are getting their eye operated. And many are going forever blinds due to tear gas and pallet fires by Indian forces. No one is paying any attention to their pains. They should be given all the rights to chose whom they want to be with.
And this is your right policy? Seriously? If you think USA or India can threaten Pakistan then wake up not anymore. USA knows the importance of Pakistan too.


KASHMIR BANAY GA PAKISTAN. .

from decades you guys chanting last sentence...

 

[Moonlight]

from decades you guys chanting last sentence...

A big LOL on you. Who have occupied means stolen this land and forcefully wanting it to be part of India and facing an epic fail. Kashmiries never gave up and still fighting for their freedoms. majority want to stay with PAKISTAN.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Dream on, perhaps a few of those pandits that did not flee when their was actually no need to flee.

You should not comment like this when you seem to have absolutely no idea about the situation of Pandits. This is a really unfortunate comment.

 

[Kinetic]

Calm down dude calm down.

These poor people are being oppressed by Indian forces for nothing, but standing for freedom. In past few days 41 people lost their lives, 1500+ are injured and some severed injured.
Their leaders are intervene. There's curfew for last 6 days.
Today on 13th July, when they wanted to protest and Indian forces intervene their freedom fighters. Net service is down, just so they can't raise their voices on social media. They are torturing people in hospitals. In a single day, people in 100s are getting paralyzed and 100s of people are getting their eye operated. And many are going forever blinds due to tear gas and pallet fires by Indian forces. No one is paying any attention to their pains. They should be given all the rights to chose whom they want to be with.
And this is your right policy? Seriously? If you think USA or India can threaten Pakistan then wake up not anymore. USA knows the importance of Pakistan too.


KASHMIR BANAY GA PAKISTAN. .

You have tried earlier you can try again. If one square inch you can take will be great for you.

In this quest for kashmir, who know how much you will lose?

 

[pakdefender]

ToI-let article

The reaction to murder to Burhan Wani has brought the Kashmir struggle for Freedom to the forefront

Ban Gaya Pakistan , Toot Gaya Hindustan!
Aur Bhi Totay Ga Hindustan, Kashmir Banay Ga Pakistan!

 

[Moonlight]

You have tried earlier you can try again. If one square inch you can take will be great for you.

In this quest for kashmir, who know how much you will lose?

Your army is there since decades and what is the result? A small nation is getting on your nerves?

 

[MilSpec]

India has not won. Pakistan has lost. That is the difference between your very perceptive and insightful analysis and my own view. India was not seeking Pakistani isolation; there is no national policy seeking that. Instead, there has been very effective Indian highlighting of her own position on various issues, and, of course, very strong messages to the world on the issue of terrorism, linked to specific acts of terrorism committed against India and Indian citizens.

It is time for Pakistan to seriously quell its own internal support and encouragement of terrorist groups and their overground sympathisers. Unfortunately, asymmetric warfare has been a special interest of the Pakistani military right from the inception of Pakistan and the start of the Pakistan Army; it will be difficult to stop people planning on such extra-military support and implementing complementary steps.

As for China, Pakistan is vulnerable to a serious Indian initiative - on a sustained, long-range basis extending across decades, not episodic or sporadic - to get closer to China. Seriously vulnerable. It has nothing to do with individuals, it has to do with the calculus of support in the world community and the possibility of gaining an ally who can influence that community favourably. India, at the moment, has that potential.

Pakistan needs not a tactical review but a strategic rethink.

India's Pakistan policy as always remains confused and aloof. One turnaround in this government has been reduction in diplomatic capital being allocated towards Pakistan, and that should have been the case from the get go.

 

[Moonlight]

ToI-let article

The reaction to murder to Burhan Wani has brought the Kashmir struggle for Freedom to the forefront

Ban Gaya Pakistan , Toot Gaya Hindustan!
Aur Bhi Totay Ga Hindustan, Kashmir Banay Ga Pakistan!

InshAllah & Amen.

 

[Joe Shearer]

India's Pakistan policy as always remains confused and aloof. One turnaround in this government has been reduction in diplomatic capital being allocated towards Pakistan, and that should have been the case from the get go.

This is part of the mud and dirt churned up as the government tries to reverse everything that was done earlier. It is not clear that this is going to be successful.

 

[MilSpec]

This is part of the mud and dirt churned up as the government tries to reverse everything that was done earlier. It is not clear that this is going to be successful.

People might perceive my take is hawkish, but I did not agree to the earlier governments prerogative which literally showed total spinelessness, and I do not see a coherent strategy with this one either. BJP needs to get over its right wing baggage and learn to actually ignore it's Pakistan problem, Vajpayee struggled with it, so did advani and so does Modi.
For any carrot or stick to work there needs to be a clear understanding of the situation which is not the case as of now. There needs to be complete dis-engagement, and actual concerted effort for buildup of pressure to achieve specific objectives, not just a perception of pressure as byproduct maneuvering.