Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

[razgriz19]

Never mind, PAF higher officials wont take a look at your suggestions and requests. They will prefer, no, LOVE TO ACQUIRE busted old F-16s.

maybe busted for you! but its the best aircraft in our current inventory! (block 52 atleast)

 

[DANGER-ZONE]

if more f-16s are offered through some aid program (free) then PAF should totally go for them!
if PAF wouldto buy them then its a no no!

if they are free,we would be able to use them in future (once US abandon us) for spare parts to keep our inventory alive!

hello waeky wakey ..... nothing is coming free here.
Either you have to exchange your territory, sovereignty or your People, WAKE UP DEAD NATION.
Go suck on your shiny F-16 B-52 and fly it being a Slave not a Pilot.

they will not give it free of cost at all.
Try to live on your own not on AID. purchase parts or old F-16 from them for existing F-16 fleet, by your own money.
If they do not agree on this SAY GOOD BYE.

 

[Last Hope]

hello waeky wakey ..... nothing is coming free here.
Either you have to exchange your territory, sovereignty or your People, WAKE UP DEAD NATION.
Go suck on your shiny F-16 B-52 and fly it being a Slave not a Pilot.

they will not give it free of cost at all.
Try to live on your own not on AID. purchase parts or old F-16 from them for existing F-16 fleet, by your own money.
If they do not agree on this SAY GOOD BYE.

Although your points are correct to an extend, you must please mind your words.
Have you ever looked at what the F-16s did? Shot down Russians, fought Indians and F-16s are the ones we scrammble always. Look at PAF without F-16s.

 

[Silk]

It is not the plane that makes the difference.

 

[DANGER-ZONE]

Although your points are correct to an extend, you must please mind your words.
Have you ever looked at what the F-16s did? Shot down Russians, fought Indians and F-16s are the ones we scrammble always. Look at PAF without F-16s.

It is not the plane that makes the difference.

maturely described in one line by SILK.

 

[Mabs]

any update

He's working on it and I don't wana rush him as I requested him to make it very detailed.

 

[razgriz19]

It is not the plane that makes the difference.

not so accurate...
its the combination of good men and machine which makes the difference...
u cant fight an f-22 with a f-86 sabre!

 

[razgriz19]

hello waeky wakey ..... nothing is coming free here.
Either you have to exchange your territory, sovereignty or your People, WAKE UP DEAD NATION.
Go suck on your shiny F-16 B-52 and fly it being a Slave not a Pilot.

they will not give it free of cost at all.
Try to live on your own not on AID. purchase parts or old F-16 from them for existing F-16 fleet, by your own money.
If they do not agree on this SAY GOOD BYE.

....if wars were won by morals, and emotions then palestine would have been free today!
wake up, this is reality. u either just follow the world or become another north korea!

 

[VelocuR]

Mind you: razgriz19 is in poor arguments, he doesn't know what he is discussing or unaware of JFT involvements in FATA. Nice avatar.

This F-16 Block 52s, we paid it, not free!!!!!!!! Pls don't jump to Uncle Sam's lap, kid !

On topic, PAF will likely to refuse it. It is just US's statement offering more F-16s and its spares, nothing confirmed else.

 

[araz]

if more f-16s are offered through some aid program (free) then PAF should totally go for them!
if PAF wouldto buy them then its a no no!

if they are free,we would be able to use them in future (once US abandon us) for spare parts to keep our inventory alive!

I would agree. Acquiring Old MLUBl15s has advantages for us in many ways. Even if we were to chose J10/FC20s today, it would take 3 yrs to deliver and another 12 to 18 months to set the infra structure and learn to know the aircraft. We dont have the money for that in any case. F16s would come sooner and can be MLUed at our own leasure.We know the aircraft well and are happy for it. I understand people's reservations but it is a necessity and we need a quick fix for our obsolete fleet.Commonality of platforms has its own advantages in case of adverse outcomes as well.
Araz

 

[khurasaan1]

I guess we shold get rid of US F-16nz anymore requirement and move on to next generation aircrafts....

 

[khurasaan1]

Mind you: razgriz19 is in poor arguments, he doesn't know what he is discussing or unaware of JFT involvements in FATA. Nice avatar.

This F-16 Block 52s, we paid it, not free!!!!!!!! Pls don't jump to Uncle Sam's lap, kid !

On topic, PAF will likely to refuse it. It is just US's statement offering more F-16s and its spares, nothing confirmed else.

Thnx US...... we dont need nomore urz aircrafts....... Alhamdolillah.......

 

[khurasaan1]

....if wars were won by morals, and emotions then palestine would have been free today!
wake up, this is reality. u either just follow the world or become another north korea!

U shold not denounce N.Korea.....is a great country standing on its feet with freedom and dignity.....
or u want to be the slaves......of US/West.................

 

[araz]

....if wars were won by morals, and emotions then palestine would have been free today!
wake up, this is reality. u either just follow the world or become another north korea!

I think I see logic in both yours and DZ's posts. However, the actual ideal situation needs to lie somewhere in between. In answer to DZ's post a counter question needs to be asked. If you go to the chinese (assuming them to be the alternative source of inventory) do you think they will not extract a price for a favour? The answer is a big fat yes!! So what is different between US and China.?
What one needs to understand is that it is simply a question of how you argue your case and what you are able to give in return for the favour.If the cost id not too much, you have to accede till such time you are in a situation to independently and without any pressure willing to say Yes or No.Till that time it is just a case of how well you negotiate.
Araz

 

[epinephrine]

F-16 IS NO DOUBT ONE OF THE LEGENDS IN AVIATION HISTORY.RULED THE SKIES ALMOST FOR 30 YEARS.NOW THE WORLD HAS BEEN ABLE TO DEVELOP JETS WHICH R EQUALLY GOOD OR SLIGHTLY BETTER THEN F-16.STILL BLK 52 N BLK 60 F-16S CAN SHOOT DOWN ANY 4TH GEN JET IN THE WORLD BUT THE QUESTION IS THAT IS IT SUITABLE FOR PAK TO GO FOR MORE F-16S???
IF THE PAKISTANI F-16S HAVE SO MUCH RESTRICTIONS OVER THEM AS STATED IN THAT VIPER PILOT INTERVIEW THEN I THINK 18 ADVANCED F-16S R GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE TALIBANS.WE DONT NEED MORE.AND IF WE ARE ALLOWED TO USE THEM AGAINST IAF IN ANY FUTURE WAR ON OUR WISHES THEN I THINK WE SHOULD GO FOR ANOTHER 18.
PERSONALLY I CANT UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE OF BUYING THE WORLD'S MOST ADVANCED AMRAAM IN A LARGE QUANTITY IF WE CAN NOT USE THEM AGAINST ANY OPPOSING AIR FORCE.