Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

[Tank131]

Pak-US relations will change for the better once the issue of Afghanistan is settled. Then things go beyond the usual national security and counter-terrorism mindset and into a more normal relations like trade.

It is unlikely to get better post-Afghanistan. It is more likely history will repeat itself and you will have severe military sanctions or restrictions on Pakistan (unlikely to have economic sanctions unless there are major pressures the US wants to exert). It is more likely whem the last US Troops leave Afghanistan, the last military dealings will also take place and economic interests will be whatever they are. There is a lot of myopia in the congress regarding Pakistan and its role in the region and world and that has to do with a failure of a strong political action committee and poor representation of the relatively wealthy Pakistani diaspora within civil society. Basically the Pakistani community in the US (which is fairly wealthy by most respects) is not involved to a great degree in politics and policy making. That is slowly changing as is congress' Shortsightedness but time will tell.

 

[mingle]

US blocked isreali F16 sales to Croatia and now offers them New F16 blk 70.
I believe they will eventually offer F16 blk 70 or V upgrade to Pak again just watch. It's business after all
I read at Alan warnes twitter account he said that American has this business practice if u buy our used products who will buy New ones then.

 

[Beethoven]

US blocked isreali F16 sales to Croatia and now offers them New F16 blk 70.
I believe they will eventually offer F16 blk 70 or V upgrade to Pak again just watch. It's business after all
I read at Alan warnes twitter account he said that American has this business practice if u buy our used products who will buy New ones then.

I think the Americans will realise the fact that if they dont provide us the requisite technology Pakistan.will be able.to source it out from some place else(read China)
since it has become clear that we will be having most of the goodies that block 70 has in the form of block 3 it is just a matter of time before they offer us the same

 

[Cuirassier]

It is unlikely to get better post-Afghanistan. It is more likely history will repeat itself and you will have severe military sanctions or restrictions on Pakistan (unlikely to have economic sanctions unless there are major pressures the US wants to exert). It is more likely whem the last US Troops leave Afghanistan, the last military dealings will also take place and economic interests will be whatever they are. There is a lot of myopia in the congress regarding Pakistan and its role in the region and world and that has to do with a failure of a strong political action committee and poor representation of the relatively wealthy Pakistani diaspora within civil society. Basically the Pakistani community in the US (which is fairly wealthy by most respects) is not involved to a great degree in politics and policy making. That is slowly changing as is congress' Shortsightedness but time will tell.

Wealthy Pakistanis are busy in charsain and nasha

 

[Tank131]

Wealthy Pakistanis are busy in charsain and nasha

Thats not entirely true. Wealthy American Pakistani come in every variety from liberal alcoholics to religiously conservative. There are more in the latter group. The big difference between the US diaspora and that of say Canada or Europe is it is kore highly educated and faces much less racism in the US (So more opportunities) but is relatively newer. Whereas many in Europe are 3 or 4th gen we have only seen 2-3 gens in US. That being said with a newer community they are more worried about establishing their community and families socially, educationally, and economically. But we are starting to see more and more becoming involved in arts, social activisim and civil society it just will take time. Their is a strong distrust of Pakistani politicians in the diaspora so the link between the GoP and the US diaspora is weak which is a failure on both parts but most of that blame is on GoP for not culticating those ties. That money and financial influence could be used to leverage better relations between US and Pak governments.

 

[ziaulislam]

I think the Americans will realise the fact that if they dont provide us the requisite technology Pakistan.will be able.to source it out from some place else(read China)
since it has become clear that we will be having most of the goodies that block 70 has in the form of block 3 it is just a matter of time before they offer us the same

Issue is cost..i sure they will offer you at inflated prices

 

[MastanKhan]

I think the Americans will realise the fact that if they dont provide us the requisite technology Pakistan.will be able.to source it out from some place else(read China)
since it has become clear that we will be having most of the goodies that block 70 has in the form of block 3 it is just a matter of time before they offer us the same

Hi,

US is done with Pakistan----.

 

[Raider 21]

Hi,

US is done with Pakistan----.

Hey,

They are not.

Cheers !!!

 

[MastanKhan]

Hey,

They are not.

Cheers !!!

Okay---if you say so---. If exxon hits oil---things will change---.

 

[GriffinsRule]

Okay---if you say so---. If exxon hits oil---things will change---.

Why are they looking for oil if they are done with Pakistan ...??

 

[litman]

it is better for pak that "US is done with pak". it will be a blessing in disguise. will greatly help pak in long run. we may induct any other air craft beside F-16 in future.

 

[ZedZeeshan]

it is better for pak that "US is done with pak". it will be a blessing in disguise. will greatly help pak in long run. we may induct any other air craft beside F-16 in future.

US is not done with us and will never be..

 

[araz]

Hey,

They are not.

Cheers !!!

US political dynamics and our expectations are the problem. US has a typical business minded approach and everything they do is related to advancing their interests in a region. Even at the best of times for Paklands they have not done much to aggravate India because they are a much bigger market.
Our understanding of these dynamics rather than their attitude is a problem. There is no need to go and sit in their lap but at the same time there is no need to break off ties as well. We need to advance our interests by the usual means of wining dining and projection of Pak policies and see how our mutually beneficial interests can be furthered.
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[Tank131]

The US will never be done with Pakistan. It will however temper its interactions to its own interests which do include business. If Pakistans economy grows they are a 200+ million person market afterall. It will also depend on how much India is willing to play a foil to China and Russia. From the looks of it thus far, it isnt as gung-ho as the IS may have liked.

 

[mingle]

The US will never be done with Pakistan. It will however temper its interactions to its own interests which do include business. If Pakistans economy grows they are a 200+ million person market afterall. It will also depend on how much India is willing to play a foil to China and Russia. From the looks of it thus far, it isnt as gung-ho as the IS may have liked.

Pak needs to create its own economy to make lucrative for investors its 5th largest papulated country in the world can't be neglected