Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

[SQ8]

Our F-16s have kill switches

No they dont..
They have checks that will tell if there are attempts to remove or open sensitive components by unauthorized personnel.
But nothing that will shut them off mid-air.

 

[VelocuR]

No they dont..
They have checks that will tell if there are attempts to remove or open sensitive components by unauthorized personnel.
But nothing that will shut them off mid-air.

How can we be sure that? Is USA stupid to let unauthorized personnel investigatation? maybe new technology of tiny virus chips from MLUs upgrading.

 

[Abdul Quddoos]

No they dont..
They have checks that will tell if there are attempts to remove or open sensitive components by unauthorized personnel.
But nothing that will shut them off mid-air.

They have and it is an open reality.
So, the question is, can we decode those switches and make them useless, ourselves?
if we've to use them in war against anyone...?
Is there any trick...?
Is it possible...?

 

[HANI]

They have and it is an open reality.
So, the question is, can we decode those switches and make them useless, ourselves?
if we've to use them in war against anyone...?
Is there any trick...?
Is it possible...?

if they have kill switches why are these working when our F 16 intercept US choppers near border after Abbottabad operation ?????????????????

 

[Donatello]

if they have kill switches why are these working when our F 16 intercept US choppers near border after Abbottabad operation ?????????????????

Those were F-16 A/B, of not much use anyway........

And the OBL 'raid' was all but a drama.

 

[Dazzler]

Those were F-16 A/B, of not much use anyway........

And the OBL 'raid' was all but a drama.

OBL raid was sheer drama for sure till they bring out some authentic pics or video like they propagated Saddam story but Kill Switch story is equally funny story.

 

[Sinnerman108]

No they dont..
They have checks that will tell if there are attempts to remove or open sensitive components by unauthorized personnel.
But nothing that will shut them off mid-air.

OBL raid was sheer drama for sure till they bring out some authentic pics or video like they propagated Saddam story but Kill Switch story is equally funny story.

Within the realm of science,
can both of you for sure claim that there isn't any block of code that is detrimental to our requirements ?

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

Our F-16s have kill switches

Sir these are just rumors. America don't need to put something as kill switch. America will never want to destroy their goodwill and their product. America is already struggling to sell their new planes as there are some competitors who want to decrease/eliminate American domination in air and fighter Industry. America will never put Kill switch. instead, if they have fear from planes, They have option to, Not to sell their fighters and spare parts.
There is nothing Like Kill switch.
But..........
If you want to modify and want to play with their avionics, there may be option of alarm system which may alert the U.S.A defense system for illegally modifying or playing with avionics.

 

[TOPGUN]

There are no kill switches for GOD sake people... if PAF is not loosing sleep over it then why are guys going insane vipers are and will be used in case of any war or operation infact have been used on the WOT now plzz get some tea and relax.

 

[SQ8]

Within the realm of science,
can both of you for sure claim that there isn't any block of code that is detrimental to our requirements ?

There is no block of code on those upgraded aircraft that is detrimental to our wartime requirements.

 

[regular]

Sir these are just rumors. America don't need to put something as kill switch. America will never want to destroy their goodwill and their product. America is already struggling to sell their new planes as there are some competitors who want to decrease/eliminate American domination in air and fighter Industry. America will never put Kill switch. instead, if they have fear from planes, They have option to, Not to sell their fighters and spare parts.
There is nothing Like Kill switch.
But..........
If you want to modify and want to play with their avionics, there may be option of alarm system which may alert the U.S.A defense system for illegally modifying or playing with avionics.

Only foolish pplz trust their enemies, smart ppl never do.....

 

[MilSpec]

There is no such thing as kill switch in pAF F16's... If there were any such limiter/bugs in the machine , they would be discovered and removed by the PAF technicians within a week.

I am surprised that members still doubt engineering skills of a professional Air Force

Only foolish pplz trust their enemies, smart ppl never do.....

It is utterly ridiculous to think US as your enemy.

 

[Donatello]

Within the realm of science,
can both of you for sure claim that there isn't any block of code that is detrimental to our requirements ?

No kill switches. And the jets will work against India anytime, anywhere. Now against NATO forces, they don't need kill switches.....they know the ins and outs of the plane. They build it.

 

[MastanKhan]

Sir these are just rumors. America don't need to put something as kill switch. America will never want to destroy their goodwill and their product. America is already struggling to sell their new planes as there are some competitors who want to decrease/eliminate American domination in air and fighter Industry. America will never put Kill switch. instead, if they have fear from planes, They have option to, Not to sell their fighters and spare parts.
There is nothing Like Kill switch.
But..........
If you want to modify and want to play with their avionics, there may be option of alarm system which may alert the U.S.A defense system for illegally modifying or playing with avionics.

Hi,

Thank you for your post---but what can be said----pakistanis believe that the world is after them---whole of pakistan is paranoid---they are paranoid of leaves moving by the wind as if itwas a conspiracy---. But thank you for your post---.

People don't understand that the u s defence industry is an independant business entity that does not take any dictation from the u s government----.

That is why is has been brought up---instead of the u s govt---if paf had signed a contract directly with Lockheed Martin / GD / with the approval of the u s govt---there would be no sanctions on pakistan in the 90's.

No fighter aircraft company would want its name tarnished by planting kill switches----if you can do it to John---then you will do it to Mohammad and Hari Ram as well and businesses of the defence industry are not run like that---.

could that be the fear that india did not pick a u s fighter aircraft.

 

[SQ8]

How can we be sure that? Is USA stupid to let unauthorized personnel investigatation? maybe new technology of tiny virus chips from MLUs upgrading.

Tiny virus chips???
If they had to do it, they would.
We are sure because we made sure.. we knew what strings are attached or not.
the MLU is being done in Turkey..by TAI personnel who have done this a hundred times before.
What is amiss.. the checks on the electronic pods.. sealed sensitive components.. we have been told before.