Pakistan Expresses Concern over BMD Test by India

[Ajaxpaul]

Why to worry? I was told that the Test was a farce....

To some nations testing means non working....See no testing means a perfect weapons system.

 

[nair]

To some nations testing means non working....See no testing means a perfect weapons system.

It depends..... If it is the case of getting a proven system and renaming it.... Then the testing would have done by the original designer....

 

[PDF]

Why to worry? I was told that the Test was a farce....

You can never be too safe. We are just not underestimating a potential threat. But BMD is in its initial stages. It will need a decade or more to be significantly operationalized. Meanwhile, Pakistan will try to counter the shield by deploying evasive technologies such as MIRV and SLBM. It will try to further improve their CM too which I think is more effective than BMD. The short distance between the two countries also complicates the effectiveness of interceptors. But, anyway, a step in the right direction to protect yourself against incoming missiles.

 

[nair]

You can never be too safe. We are just not underestimating a potential threat. But BMD is in its initial stages. It will need a decade or more to be significantly operationalized. Meanwhile, Pakistan will try to counter the shield by deploying evasive technologies such as MIRV and SLBM. It will try to further improve their CM too which I think is more effective than BMD. The short distance between the two countries also complicates the effectiveness of interceptors. But, anyway, a step in the right direction to protect yourself against incoming missiles.

I agree with you that we are far away from hav8bg an operational BMD..... And ability of a BMD in modern tech is always a question mark......

My point was in response to a post by a respected member to the testing calling it as farce..... ignore it...

 

[#hydra#]

You can never be too safe. We are just not underestimating a potential threat. But BMD is in its initial stages. It will need a decade or more to be significantly operationalized. Meanwhile, Pakistan will try to counter the shield by deploying evasive technologies such as MIRV and SLBM. It will try to further improve their CM too which I think is more effective than BMD. The short distance between the two countries also complicates the effectiveness of interceptors. But, anyway, a step in the right direction to protect yourself against incoming missiles.

Yeah,no force in this world can beat Pakistan in pdf .

 

[BABA AGHORI]

You always need a reason to test missiles like Pakistan's reason was always India. Regarding Nasar it has nothing to do with BDM as Nasar is a battle field range missile and India using BDM on Nasar will be a waste of resources. Because it takes atleast 2 to 3 BMD to target one missile and Nasar rocket is Cheaper than any BMD system in the world. Plus Pakistan MIRV and Shaheen 3 system are immune to BMD already yes India will only defend it self from few chosen missiles because India conducted the test on Pritvi 2 rocket which means Indian BMD can only target BM of short range.


Good argument but the counter argument will be to maintain balance of Power.

Correct superman, but unlike our adversary we do not have a single solution like aatmi bumb for everything adversary throw at us. Hope you have heard quick reaction SAM which will fix NASR.

 

[BHarwana]

Correct superman, but unlike our adversary we do not have a single solution like aatmi bumb for everything adversary throw at us. Hope you have heard quick reaction SAM which will fix NASR.

Any SAM can fix Nasar missile. Nasar is not a MIRV or HSGV or any maneuverable warhead. The problem with nasar is different. Any SAM system out there needs RADAR to get data for intercept in case of NASAR the issue is that the Radar cross section of NASAR is equal to that of MLRS. So if there is MLRS being fired and along it there is Nasar fired the SAM cannot identify which is Nasar and which is a Dud rocket. secondly they cannot identify which Nasar missile is with nuclear war head and which is not so that means in a disguised attack India might use 30 missiles for one successful interception of Nasar. Nasar is 20 time cheaper than any SAM missile.

 

[BABA AGHORI]

Any SAM can fix Nasar missile. Nasar is not a MIRV or HSGV or any maneuverable warhead. The problem with nasar is different. Any SAM system out there needs RADAR to get data for intercept in case of NASAR the issue is that the Radar cross section of NASAR is equal to that of MLRS. So if there is MLRS being fired and along it there is Nasar fired the SAM cannot identify which is Nasar and which is a Dud rocket. secondly they cannot identify which Nasar missile is with nuclear war head and which is not so that means in a disguised attack India might use 30 missiles for one successful interception of Nasar. Nasar is 20 time cheaper than any SAM missile.

Yeh world knows NASR is the ultimate weapon of the world.
Yes thanks for acknowledging world a TNW carring guided missile cost only few cents. And you would be having it in millions. And until now no crude rockets have been tracked and intercepted yet anywhere in the world.

 

[AMCA]

Any SAM can fix Nasar missile. Nasar is not a MIRV or HSGV or any maneuverable warhead. The problem with nasar is different. Any SAM system out there needs RADAR to get data for intercept in case of NASAR the issue is that the Radar cross section of NASAR is equal to that of MLRS. So if there is MLRS being fired and along it there is Nasar fired the SAM cannot identify which is Nasar and which is a Dud rocket. secondly they cannot identify which Nasar missile is with nuclear war head and which is not so that means in a disguised attack India might use 30 missiles for one successful interception of Nasar. Nasar is 20 time cheaper than any SAM missile.

The rationale offered by Pakistani analysts for developing the NASR is that it is a counter to India’s Cold Start doctrine and is meant to deter any Indian mechanized offensive into Pakistan.

The moment a nuclear weapon whether tactical or strategic is used the deterrent factor suffers a failure. Thus, Pakistan’s nuclear deterrence against India will fail if it launches TNWs. Moreover, given the geographical proximity with India any detonation of TNWs by Pakistan will have radiation fallouts on the territories of both countries. Pakistan could thus find itself in a situation where it would be self-deterred. Considering the pros and cons of TNWs like NASR, it does not pose any advantage to Pakistan; it only creates disadvantages.

To quote Air Chief Marshal P. V. Naik, “Tactical or strategic, it (NASR) is a nuclear weapon. Our response would be absolutely violent, if it is used, as per our existing policy. So, it's not a game-changer.”

 

[khanmubashir]

Any bmd can give only limited protection the decades and billions spent on it can be countered by counter measure costing millions and taking few years like MIRV decoys chaff ground based jammers using own awacs as jammers Even modified fm radio transmitter can be used to emit false signals to confuse enemies radar thus making interception less likely
So on economic of scale bmd isn't much reliable

The rationale offered by Pakistani analysts for developing the NASR is that it is a counter to India’s Cold Start doctrine and is meant to deter any Indian mechanized offensive into Pakistan.

The moment a nuclear weapon whether tactical or strategic is used the deterrent factor suffers a failure. Thus, Pakistan’s nuclear deterrence against India will fail if it launches TNWs. Moreover, given the geographical proximity with India any detonation of TNWs by Pakistan will have radiation fallouts on the territories of both countries. Pakistan could thus find itself in a situation where it would be self-deterred. Considering the pros and cons of TNWs like NASR, it does not pose any advantage to Pakistan; it only creates disadvantages.

To quote Air Chief Marshal P. V. Naik, “Tactical or strategic, it (NASR) is a nuclear weapon. Our response would be absolutely violent, if it is used, as per our existing policy. So, it's not a game-changer.”

This is stated policy but even Western analyst agree that if tnw r used against Indian forces
India is less likely to use strategic nukes as our retaliatory strike on there cities would cost more losses on Indian owing to higher concentration of Indian cities and Pak having 2-3 nukes per Indian mega City
And even uusa ABM have interception rate in 50% range

 

[BHarwana]

The rationale offered by Pakistani analysts for developing the NASR is that it is a counter to India’s Cold Start doctrine and is meant to deter any Indian mechanized offensive into Pakistan.

The moment a nuclear weapon whether tactical or strategic is used the deterrent factor suffers a failure. Thus, Pakistan’s nuclear deterrence against India will fail if it launches TNWs. Moreover, given the geographical proximity with India any detonation of TNWs by Pakistan will have radiation fallouts on the territories of both countries. Pakistan could thus find itself in a situation where it would be self-deterred. Considering the pros and cons of TNWs like NASR, it does not pose any advantage to Pakistan; it only creates disadvantages.

To quote Air Chief Marshal P. V. Naik, “Tactical or strategic, it (NASR) is a nuclear weapon. Our response would be absolutely violent, if it is used, as per our existing policy. So, it's not a game-changer.”

Who is the idiot that told you that Pakistan plans to use Nasar on Indian soil? Nasar is meant to be used on Pakistani soil. that is why Nasr is not made with any harmful isotopes that remain active for a long period of time in form of radiation. Nasr is like a tactical smaller version of MOAB with same damage and lesser size. If a warhead fule come out of cesium reactor it will have long lasting radiation marks where the bomb is detonated but if correct isotopes are used in producing fuel the radiation will not last more than 2 months. So Nasr is only for battle field use and will be used for defensive purposes that is why India cannot attack Pakistan. Now get lost and come back when you know what Nasr actually is idiot and why world calls it the most deadly tactical weapon.

 

[#hydra#]

Who is the idiot that told you that Pakistan plans to use Nasar on Indian soil? Nasar is meant to be used on Pakistani soil. that is why Nasr is not made with any harmful isotopes that remain active for a long period of time in form of radiation. Nasr is like a tactical smaller version of MOAB with same damage and lesser size. If a warhead fule come out of cesium reactor it will have long lasting radiation marks where the bomb is detonated but if correct isotopes are used in producing fuel the radiation will not last more than 2 months. So Nasr is only for battle field use and will be used for defensive purposes that is why India cannot attack Pakistan. Now get lost and come back when you know what Nasr actually is idiot and why world calls it the most deadly tactical weapon.

Oh genius,tell me which isotopes other than u235,u233 & pu239 can used to make a functional nuclear bomb.

 

[neem456]

As i said this on the day india tested its system. Pakistan so predictable.

Now wait for statement from pakistan, this is not fair and imbalance of power in south asia, and arms race and blah blah

 

[Tumba]

BMDs are tech. crown jewels of technologically advance nations, a backward nation like pakistan should not worry as anyway its for defensive not offensive purposes.

 

[AMCA]

Who is the idiot that told you that Pakistan plans to use Nasar on Indian soil? Nasar is meant to be used on Pakistani soil. that is why Nasr is not made with any harmful isotopes that remain active for a long period of time in form of radiation. Nasr is like a tactical smaller version of MOAB with same damage and lesser size. If a warhead fule come out of cesium reactor it will have long lasting radiation marks where the bomb is detonated but if correct isotopes are used in producing fuel the radiation will not last more than 2 months. So Nasr is only for battle field use and will be used for defensive purposes that is why India cannot attack Pakistan. Now get lost and come back when you know what Nasr actually is idiot and why world calls it the most deadly tactical weapon.

Iam aware of that DumbA$$, isn’t that what I mentioned in the first paragraph?? With the close proximity of both our countries the nuclear radiation’s are bound to spread and that’s an invite for a nuclear retaliation. If India goes for a full offensive on your soil I am sure there is hardly any conventional option left for you than a surrender like 1971.

With our MBRL systems and Tactical missiles like Prahaar how are you so sure that the NASR columns wouldn’t be taken out in advance?