Pakistan conducts a successful test flight of indigenously developed Fatah-1, Guided Multi Launch Rocket System

[HRK]

Few of My observations about responses from Pakistani members:

- I believe this Fatah-1 is not developed to respond any of the version of Pinaka or Smerch MLRS in Indian inventory, but IF anything is relatively equivalent to this in India in the class of tactical level missiles with multiple launch capability or GMLRS then it is Prahaar Missile with 150 KM range and India Army is seeking its more extended range version, so any Pakistani member who is considering that Pakistan has taken lead in terms of range over India in MLRS or GMLRS field then he is slightly wrong.

- We now have just disclosed our capability to announce the restoration of balance in this field before India put extended range version of Prahaar Missile in use.

- Secondly it is also NOT a Response to S-400, it is my assumption that Pakistan will respond S-400 deployment with short range missile capable to be launched in depressed trajectory something similar to Russian Iskander Missile

 

[GumNaam]

BREAKING NEWS IN GANGUS DAILY NEWZ
PAKISTAN Ki EK AUR NAPAK HARKAT SE PARDA FASH
China ke missile test per voice dubbing kar ke apna bana diya,,

not so dear indian pajeets...ye mijjile chahay Pakistan ko ya China ka ho with "made in Pakistan" label, is mijjile nay ghuss kay phattna tumharay pichvaarr may hi hay!

 

[Titanium100]

Few of My observations about responses from Pakistani members:

- I believe this Fatah-1 is not developed to respond any of the version of Pinaka or Smerch MLRS in Indian inventory, but IF anything is relatively equivalent to this in India in the class of tactical level missiles with multiple launch capability or GMLRS then it is Prahaar Missile with 150 KM range and India Army is seeking its more extended range version, so any Pakistani member who is considering that Pakistan has taken lead in terms of range over India in MLRS or GMLRS field then he is slightly wrong.

- We now have just disclosed our capability to announce the restoration of balance in this field before India put extended range version of Prahaar Missile in use.

- Secondly it is also NOT a Response to S-400, it is my assumption that Pakistan will respond S-400 deployment with short range missile capable to be launched in depressed trajectory something similar to Russian Iskander Missile

They haven't really put the extended version out yet. I also believe this is just the beginning of extending and re-extending while creating newer versions on both ends.

I don't see the Rafale as much of a threat to Pakistan's current upgraded F-16s and with newer Turkish tech systems and weapons on the way and finally but not least project azm which is a 6th generation fighter jet no country is currently building 6th generation fighter jets except Pakistan and imo that would grant Pakistan complete military advantage and not to forget who the enemy is? Sun tzu said: if you know yourself and your enemy you will not lose in 100 battles.

They lack patriotism since the affiliation is not quite there and it is basically a sub-continent and it is like forcing Africa to form a country the northernes will fight like the Bengalis, Punjabis, Marathis and 2 other northernes. There will be issues with motivations while they will fight only but little. If you give them a good hammering early on things will fall in place alot easier then people realize. Pakistan shouldn't even adopt only defensive planning but also offensive and making it as important as defensive planning. The Deccan regions and what is south of it will come quite easy once you hammer the north.

 

[mudas777]

S 400 has a range of 400 km. So if they put the system 250 Km away from the border that still leaves 400 - 250 = 150 km of Pakistan Airspace in danger.

If the No Escape Zone of the 40N6E missile is 300 Km, which is very impressive, than that leaves 50 km of Pakistani Airspace near the border as a no fly zone. If some Pakistani pilot dares to challenge this 50 km no fly zone, what are the odds that he will succeed considering the fact that the 40N6E travels at Max. target speed 4.8 km/s (17,000 km/h; 11,000 mph; Mach 14)?

Can any aircraft outmatch / outclass a missile traveling at Mach 14 speed?

The A 400 radars have a range of 600 km so they will be about 450 km deep into Indian territory and out of range of any Pakistan missile except SUBSONIC speed ALCM RAAD or Babur, which can be easily intercepted by Indian defences.

This 50 km no fly zone over Pakistani territory would be enough for Indian Army to launch an attack and occupy a big chunk of land deep into Pakistan, without fear of any Air attack by PAF.

This is a trailer mate next 2-3 years time when mean machines versions 2 and 3 will be out then the real story will begin.

 

[crankthatskunk]

S 400 has a range of 400 km. So if they put the system 250 Km away from the border that still leaves 400 - 250 = 150 km of Pakistan Airspace in danger.

If the No Escape Zone of the 40N6E missile is 300 Km, which is very impressive, than that leaves 50 km of Pakistani Airspace near the border as a no fly zone. If some Pakistani pilot dares to challenge this 50 km no fly zone, what are the odds that he will succeed considering the fact that the 40N6E travels at Max. target speed 4.8 km/s (17,000 km/h; 11,000 mph; Mach 14)?

Can any aircraft outmatch / outclass a missile traveling at Mach 14 speed?

The A 400 radars have a range of 600 km so they will be about 450 km deep into Indian territory and out of range of any Pakistan missile except SUBSONIC speed ALCM RAAD or Babur, which can be easily intercepted by Indian defences.

This 50 km no fly zone over Pakistani territory would be enough for Indian Army to launch an attack and occupy a big chunk of land deep into Pakistan, without fear of any Air attack by PAF.

Well this is a screenshot of a video and article posted on 28 Sept 2020.

 

[SQ8]

@HRK @Zulfiqar @Maarkhoor please comment on accuracy. For a PGM thats supposed to take out S-400 trucks it appears the rocket didnt land close enough to intended target.

In other words, do you feel confident enough to volunteer of coming out unscathed if you were that target? (That is a dummy warhead not a HE live one in case you are wondering)

 

[Saudang]

OK, so Pakistan has equalised India on that. If this is what you want to imply? Except that Pakistan can strike 140KM deep and India can do so at 90KM, only a 64% deep as compared to Fatah-1. Your "Underdevelopment" Pinaka-III is still behind Pakistan by 20 KM, and Pakistan already has another 120KM long variant called A-100.

Read about a multi barrel missile system called Prahaar with a range of 150 km.. India is starting trails for an advanced version with 200 km range in 2021

 

[crankthatskunk]

They haven't really put the extended version out yet. I also believe this is just the beginning of extending and re-extending while creating newer versions on both ends.

I don't see the Rafale as much of a threat to Pakistan's current upgraded F-16s and with newer Turkish tech systems and weapons on the way and finally but not least project azm which is a 6th generation fighter jet no country is currently building 6th generation fighter jets except Pakistan and imo that would grant Pakistan complete military advantage and not to forget who the enemy is? Sun tzu said: if you know yourself and your enemy you will not lose in 100 battles.

They lack patriotism since the affiliation is not quite there and it is basically a sub-continent and it is like forcing Africa to form a country the northernes will fight like the Bengalis, Punjabis, Marathis and 2 other northernes. There will be issues with motivations while they will fight only but little. If you give them a good hammering early on things will fall in place alot easier then people realize. Pakistan shouldn't even adopt only defensive planning but also offensive and making it as important as defensive planning. The Deccan regions and what is south of it will come quite easy once you hammer the north.

Well, in all probability, the south of India would very quickly go towards separate countries i.e. freedom from India.

If Pakistan shows a little adventure and go for attacking options, the India can crumble very fast.
Modi has alienated most of the Sikhs. The India cannot rely on Sikh soldiers as much as it use to rely on them in the past.
Most Sikhs, especially after "Farmers" protest are turning against India and now openly say that they made a mistake to side with India at the time of Partition. It was also said by the Mufti from Kashmir.

When Pakistan issued new map and included Junagarh as part of Pakistan, it should have gone a little further and also included "Hyderabad Deccan" as part of Pakistan. It is a fact that Nawab of Deccan did opted to join Pakistan. But India played double games send the army and occupied it on the basis that its majority was Hindus, thus it should be with Indian. While for Kashmir completely different argument of Raja acceded to India was used, ignoring the Muslim Majority.
We should simple response to that Indians double games. Now is the time.
After we deal with India, we should deal with Bangladesh too. Hasina has to be shown her true worth.

 

[Saudang]

Nothing would stop India, but a single privithi or a few would not do much against Pakistan. Each Pakistani short range ballistic missile system brigade will likely have 6-8 launcher vehicles each equipped with 4-8 guided rockets. That is easily 24-64 guided missiles depending on the configuration.

Just 1 brigade would be enough to level every hardened hangar per airbase. Your jets would be smashed in their bunkers before even being notified.

Reality is your generals and RAW know our capabilities well.

Read about a multi barrel missile system called Prahaar with a range of 150 km.. India is starting trails for an advanced version with 200 km range in 2021

 

[imadul]

Now try stopping that with an s400.
This is great news

S400 is a very complex and versatile system.it also included Pantsir point defense system which can be employed against guided and unguided munitions.
Russians have notoriously produced state of the art ground based missile systems. They are ahead of US in this regard.

 

[imadul]

As no information is available therefore difficult to tell but generally these type of systems use combination of GPS and INS so in our case we might be using Chinese Beidou System instead of GPS withe the combination of INS

First choice will be GPS. Accuracy will depend upon # of satellites for targeting. If communication from any satellite fails due to some error then it will fall back to INS.
Not my direct expertise so cant guess how many BeoDou satellites Pakistan will be using for GMLRS, but Beidou-3 has mm level accuracy for military purposes. Hope Pakistan will be using Beidou-3.

 

[Mighty Lion]

OK, so Pakistan has equalised India on that. If this is what you want to imply? Except that Pakistan can strike 140KM deep and India can do so at 90KM, only a 64% deep as compared to Fatah-1. Your "Underdevelopment" Pinaka-III is still behind Pakistan by 20 KM, and Pakistan already has another 120KM long variant called A-100.

You are forgetting that Pakistan is a small & narrow country so for India a 90 to 100 rocket is enough.

 

[HAIDER]

TODAY'S PAPER | JANUARY 08, 2021



Pakistan tests multi-launch rocket system
The Newspaper's Staff Reporter 08 Jan 2021
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The guided MLRS was primarily developed to hit targets without leaving behind the unexploded ordnance. —Reuters/File
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan on Thursday successfully tested an indigenously developed extended-range guided Multi-Launch Rocket System (MLRS).
The Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR), while announcing the successful test flight of Fatah-1 (guided multi-launch rocket system), said the new weapon system would give the Army “capability of precision target engagement deep in enemy territory”.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1347124088301563905

Fatah-1 can carry the conventional warhead and it has a range of 140 kilometres.
Defence analyst Syed Muhammad Ali said the new system was very fast, accurate, survivable, and difficult to intercept.
The guided MLRS was primarily developed to hit targets without leaving behind the unexploded ordnance. The extended range guided MLRS is a developed variant of the guided MLRS family usually with an extended range of up to 150km.
The development of a conventional system by Pakistan seems to be a response to the Indian focus on the development of its conventional capabilities, besides improving response options to India’s Cold Start Doctrine.
“President, Prime Minister of Pakistan, Chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee and COAS have congratulated participating troops and scientists on the successful conduct of flight test,” the ISPR said.
Published in Dawn, January 8th, 2021

 

[Fighting Falcon 01]

Read about a multi barrel missile system called Prahaar with a range of 150 km.. India is starting trails for an advanced version with 200 km range in 2021

Prahaar is not a MLRs it's a tactical short range ballistic missile ...... our MLRs are guided and have a range of 140+km and it's called Fatah-1 for a reason within 5 to 6 years extended range version will be introduced now we have a new deterrent Indian armour and infantry formations will think alot before trying something......

 

[IceCold]

Got a glimpse of this "bad-boy". Looks like it is travelling at Mac3!!! This is the only glimpse of the MRL entering into the picture and in the next frame, it has landed already.


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Must be Photoshopped....Raj47