Pakistan Army's VT-4 Main Battle Tank | Updates & Discussions

[S.Y.A]

T-85 is a formidable Tank. T-69 has been handed over to FC.

Can its armour defeat modern anti tank rounds? Also, if the army no longer has the 69, then it needs new tanks.

 

[Signalian]

How you will put in 300-360 new modern tanks in Pakistan's inventory.
Will you use them to increase the size of its armored divisions by increasing number of armored regiments?
Or more independent tank brigades will be formed?

Armored Divs are under strength, Mech Divs has IABG/IMB assigned to them. Infantry Divs have very less component of armor.

Har jaga hi MBT chiaye hain

Can its armour defeat modern anti tank rounds? Also, if the army no longer has the 69, then it needs new tanks.

Depends upon factors like range, angle of shot, area where its hit etc. T-85 has a good gun and suitable engine for desert warfare. Army needs MRAP and light armored vehs more than tanks currently.

 

[S.Y.A]

Army needs MRAP and light armored vehs more than tanks currently.

IFVs with good anti tank and anti personnel capabilities?

 

[Signalian]

IFVs with good anti tank and anti personnel capabilities?

Yes that is required also. Lets see fate of VIPER IFV whether it makes entry into PA formations or not.

 

[Shabi1]

Why are all Pakistanis comparing the VT4 acquisition to that of Rafale or S-400 or the likes? Infact, India is locally producing 400+ T-90 Bhishmas in a new deal and this move might be a response to that.

Also, there have been reports of PA looking at the Ukrainian Oplot until recently and the VT4 might have been selected instead since Thailand also acquired it recently

As per MOD documentation 2017-18.
PA getting both the VT-4 (stop gap induction to give more time to Al-Khalid-2 project) and Oplot.

1. VT-4 new builds, and the existing T-80UDs being upgraded to Oplot level (pilot project of 5 tanks already complete).
2. All T-85IIs being upgraded.
3. Al-Zarrars still being being inducted with no final number.
4. Al-Khalid-1 in low rate production (16 per year).
5. Al-Khalid-2 in advanced stages. Revealed that electronics will be made locally.
6. Viper anti armor infantry vehicle on way to production.

All in all HIT is busy.

 

[PakShaheen79]

HIT must be expanded on the footsteps of PAC Kamra to increase parallel production.

 

[HRK]

Both leadership's are ready to convert the LOC into International Border...

No Indian have a right to speak on our behalf ....

 

[Tipu7]

and the existing T-80UDs being upgraded to Oplot level (pilot project of 5 tanks already complete).

T80UD are receiving some good upgrades, but they cannot transform into Oplot, which is a different tank.

Viper anti armor infantry vehicle on way to production.

It's acceptance and production status is yet to be known.

All T-85IIs being upgraded.

Overhauled. Likely to complete by 2021.

 

[Shabi1]

T80UD are receiving some good upgrades, but they cannot transform into Oplot, which is a different tank.

It's acceptance and production status is yet to be known.


Overhauled. Likely to complete by 2021.

Oplot is a variant of T-84 which is a version of the T-80UD.

 

[Tipu7]

Oplot is a variant of T-84 which is a version of the T-80UD.

Though their is difference in Turret layout of both tanks, but many of our UDs got T84 Turret.
From this perspective, yes you can say that Pakistan is upgrading its UD fleet to Oplot standard. (Installation of 1200 HP 6TD02 by replacing 1000HP 6TD01 engines)

 

[New World]

What makes you think an MOU for fighter jets wasn't signed?

@Horus

it means that EFT should be placed in the grave..

 

[Khafee]

it means that EFT should be placed in the grave..

IT has been.

 

[New World]

IT has been.

 

[denel]

in real world there is no stop gap in tanks sir . once you buy tanks you have to use them next 40 years or more . this news is another joke . specially when AK-1 production is going on as per gov opened docs


The low-rate production of 20 Al-Khalid I tanks, plus the final-stage development of the Al-Khalid II (featuring an enhanced power pack and fire-control/gun-control system).

Yes, tanks are a very long usage item not a disposable asset like these news are making it out to be; you dont buy them like chewing gum
Indian media is bad at hyper ventilating hot air and bogus claims.

 

[HRK]

Yes, tanks are a very long usage item not a disposable asset like these news are making it out to be; you dont buy them like chewing gum
Indian media is bad at hyper ventilating hot air and bogus claims.

Only thing confirmed about VT-4 from Pakistani sources is that it came for retrials and as per some in that retrial it performed satisfactorily to the standards of Pakistan Army


On the other hand there is no report about the coming of Oplat tank again to Pakistan for retrials which along VT-4 failed during the first trials