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I think PAC might be opening a VTOL assembly line for Assembling T-129 ATAK.

Moreover, there's a need to have an aero engine complex for assembling and over haul for current and future jet engines and turboshaft engines.
 
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T-129 in Turkey continuing prove it's Combat Capability.
lol .. the hunter appears suddenly from 10 seconds onwards
just amazing flying. by the machine and its pilot

I think PAC might be opening a VTOL assembly line for Assembling T-129 ATAK.

Moreover, there's a need to have an aero engine complex for assembling and over haul for current and future jet engines and turboshaft engines.
do you know all helicopters have VTOL capability? this term is mainly used for fixed winged aircrafts like Harrier jump jet and F-35 variant.

to accommodate T-129 they will setup a separate helicopter assembly. unless if they plan to have VTOL capable JF-17 varient. and that will have nothing to do with a helicopter.

now thats a combat footage

 
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T-129 Combat Footage - AVCI Helmet Integrated Cueing System controlling 20mm cannon
Also Cirit 70mm missile is launched at beginning of the clip
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Might explain why the Pakistan Army became interested in the T129 ATAK:

https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/defence-helicopter/mspo-2017-the-kruk-of-the-matter/

MSPO 2017: The Kruk of the matter
29th August 2017 - 11:08 GMT | by Helen Haxell in London

Despite the postponed advancement of the Polish attack helicopter requirement, likely related to the delayed ASW/SOF tender, companies are outlining proposed platforms for the much anticipated programme.

The twin-engine AH-1Z Viper attack helicopter is being proposed by Bell for the ‘Kruk’ project.

One of the Viper’s key capabilities for the Polish Armed Forces’ missions is the Target Sight System (TSS), a Bell Helicopter spokesperson commented in a statement to Shephard.

Manufactured by Lockheed Martin, the TSS is a multi-sensor EO/IR fire control system which has a large-aperture MW FLIR sensor, a colour display, a laser designator and is installed to the nose of the Viper.

‘The AH-1Z Viper’s targeting sight system is the most advanced system available on an attack helicopter. The Viper has a combat radius of [more than] 240km carrying 16 Hellfire missiles, 2 AIM-9s and 650 20mm rounds,' the company spokesperson stated.

'The aircraft has unmatched air-to-air capability with AIM-9 integrated into the sensors and helmet mounted displays.'

In February this year, Lockheed Martin inked a contract with the USMC in relation to its TSS on board the helicopter.

The 85% technical commonality between the AH-1Z Viper and the UH-1Y Venom means that there are parts widely available, which in turn means cost saving opportunities for prospective customers.

This point of commonality and interoperability is being leveraged as part of Bell's pitch for the helicopter programme.

‘Induction of both the Viper and Venom afford the Polish military and taxpayers with the most advanced technology, combat capability with the greatest technology growth path for pollenisation of any aircraft team on the planet,’ noted the spokesperson.

On its proposed offering, Bell Helicopter is suggesting an ‘industrial package in conjunction with the Viper’, although the company would not divulge any further details.

One non-European competitor is the Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI) T129 Atak helicopter. Relatively new to the market, the twin-engine multirole combat helicopter is currently in operations with the Turkish Land Forces and was deployed in May 2016 for trials with Pakistan Army Aviation.

A TAI spokesperson in a statement said that one of the strengths of the rotorcraft in the competition was its maintenance and life-cycle costs.

‘As a candidate for the Kruk programme, T129 Atak is the most modern, agile and robust, day/night, all-weather attack and reconnaissance weapon system, [which is] now being offered to the Polish Air Force to provide best performance and manoeuvre capability for all-weather conditions.'

The spokesperson continued: ‘Through effective design, on board diagnostics, minimum crew requirements for maintenance and a simplified logistical footprint, the T129 Atak’s life-cycle costs are very competitive and almost certainly unbeatable in its class.'


The tender timeline for the programme to replace the Mi-24 remains confidential at this stage and the Polish government remain tight-lipped on the next steps.

Other companies that have also expressed an interest include Airbus Helicopters and Boeing. The tender launch for 16 to 32 aircraft is anticipated later this year or early into 2018.
 
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Great work indeed... Thnaks bro... I hope We will see the real emblems of Pakistan army on those birds in a short time... :)


AH-1Z
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weight(Empty): 5,580 kg
Max. takeoff weight: 8,390 kg

Rotor systems: 4 blades on main rotor, 4 blades on tail rotor
Powerplant: 2 X turboshaft, 1,800 shp (1,340 kW) each

Max speed: 400 Km/h
Cruise speed: 296 km/h
Range: 685 km
Combat radius: 231 km with 1,130 kg payload

Hardpoints: Up to 6



T-129
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weight(Empty): 2,350 kg
Max. takeoff weight: 5,000 kg

Rotor systems: 5 blades on main rotor, 2 blades on tail rotor
Powerplant: 2 × turboshaft (1,014 kW) 1,361 shp each

Max speed: 278 km/h
Cruise speed: 296 km/h
Range: 561 km
Combat radius: ?

Hardpoints: Up to 4


Hopefully T-129 going to be more capable and advance in near future. I wish Pakistani engineers make some great brake through in technology with Turkish brothers to make T-129 more lethal.
 
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AH-1Z
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weight(Empty): 5,580 kg
Max. takeoff weight: 8,390 kg

Rotor systems: 4 blades on main rotor, 4 blades on tail rotor
Powerplant: 2 X turboshaft, 1,800 shp (1,340 kW) each

Max speed: 400 Km/h
Cruise speed: 296 km/h
Range: 685 km
Combat radius: 231 km with 1,130 kg payload

Hardpoints: Up to 6



T-129
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weight(Empty): 2,350 kg
Max. takeoff weight: 5,000 kg

Rotor systems: 5 blades on main rotor, 2 blades on tail rotor
Powerplant: 2 × turboshaft (1,014 kW) 1,361 shp each

Max speed: 278 km/h
Cruise speed: 296 km/h
Range: 561 km
Combat radius: ?

Hardpoints: Up to 4


Hopefully T-129 going to be more capable and advance in near future. I wish Pakistani engineers make some great brake through in technology with Turkish brothers to make T-129 more lethal.

Take into account size of T-129, and that it is the only attack helicopter that can fit into C-130 of which Pakistan operates a large fleet.

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What about the armour ? If its light means it has less protection lethality.

T-129 has about same armor as AH-1Z. One thing AH-1Z does not have and unique to 129 platform is that all linkages that actuate angle of the blades are inside main rotor shaft. Main rotor shaft is protected up to 14.5mm. AH-1Z does not have such protection for it's main rotor. So T-129 has better survivability, including of course small size and detectability (engine and blade noise) is a factor to survivability.

Also, Turkey has lots of experience with modifying AH-1 platform including upgrading and adding armor.

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Whats the harm in it bruv???
Nothing, just like there is not harm in having a space station, a dozen aircraft carrier and may be a mansion on Mars and a few rockets to travel there! :D

Limited assembly from kits, extensive manufacturing subsystems locally, complete maintenance setup! THAT IS WHAT WE NEED when it comes to helicopters.
 
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T-129 Combat Footage;
Kurdish terrorist movements were detected by reconnaissance drones, they were then eliminated by T129 attack helicopters, Jandarma units on the ground, as well as f16 fighters.

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Nothing, just like there is not harm in having a space station, a dozen aircraft carrier and may be a mansion on Mars and a few rockets to travel there! :D

Limited assembly from kits, extensive manufacturing subsystems locally, complete maintenance setup! THAT IS WHAT WE NEED when it comes to helicopters.
If your good with used mi-171 then thats you

Pak needs JV in helicopters like with the Jf-17.
 
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