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Pakistan Army wants to keep Kashmir issue alive: American scholar

Finally some westerner saying things as it is openly, without sugar coating. Right on spot. And for some Indians posting here that the dispute is being kept alive by some vested interests in India (along with pak and west, of-course), I don't think people who can influence decision in India want the dispute alive. They simply don't want the dispute settled with India at disadvantage. As the article has rightly pointed out, any perceived victory for Pakistan will only make it aggressive and try even harder. It's ultimate goal is India's destruction....
 
r u kidding me? We have enough of conflicts of our own to put army's importance on the first level ie internal threat! The only thing in kashmir is waters and people rest there is nothing for us. Even im kashmiri but what is the reality is reality People and water r our concern.
Water I agree. But people? When you guys can't even look after your own people, you want to look after the Kashmiris? Get your house in order first. After all, even the Kashmiris know what's going on in Pakistan and they don't want anything to do with you. As a recent survey revealed, just 2% of Kashmiris want to join Pakistan and these include those Hurriyat yahoos and their band of sheeple.
 
Washington: Pakistan's Army does not want the Kashmir issue to be resolved as this would pose a serious challenge to their existence and their dominance in the country's political set up, a noted American scholar has said.

"They (Pakistan Army) are not going to do a settlement on Kashmir. Why would the Army allow a process to go forward that would obviate its own politics? I think that the best that India can hope for is some version of the status quo," said C Christine Fair, author of the 'Fighting to the End: The Pakistan Army's Way of War'.

Fair warned that the Pakistan Army would again try to scuttle the renewed peace initiative between the two South Asian neighbours, reflected in Prime Minister Narendra Modi's invitation to his Pakistan counterpart Nawaz Sharif to attend his swearing in ceremony; following which the two leaders had their first bilateral dialogue.

"The (Pakistan) Army would undercut him (Sharif)... all they have to do is to have a Lashkar-e-Taiba attack...opportunity for spoilers," Fair told a Washington audience yesterday at the formal launch of her book organised by the Hudson Institute, an eminent American think-tank.

"I really do not expect much out of it (Modi-Sharif peace initiative). The attack on the Indian Consulate in Herat, which was very likely done by Lashkar-e-Taiba or Haqqani network, is a really good testing of those waters," said Fair, who is Assistant Professor in the Security Studies at Georgetown University.

Agreed Husain Haqqani, the former Pakistan Ambassador to the US.

"Nawaz Sharif genuinely wants an opening of economic relationship with India. But does he really want to take on the business of shutting down the jihadi groups, there is no sign thereof so far," he said.

In her book, Fair writes Pakistan's conflict with India cannot be reduced simply to resolving the Kashmir dispute.

"Its problems with India are much more capacious than the territorial conflict over Kashmir."

The book has been published by the Oxford University Press, which is also bringing its Pakistan edition, but only after changing the cover, which she said "mocks and ridicules" the Pakistani Army.

"Pakistan's revisionism persists in regards to its efforts not only to undermine the territorial status quo in Kashmir but also to undermine India's position in the region and beyond. Pakistan will suffer any number of military defeats in its efforts to do so, but it will not acquiesce to India. This, for the Pakistan Army, is genuine and total defeat," Fair writes.

Even if at some point in the past Pakistan's existential struggle with India could have been mitigated through a mutually agreeable resolution of Kashmir, this is certainly no longer true, she argues, adding that it is possible that any efforts to appease Pakistan through territorial concessions on Kashmir may actually encourage Pakistan's anti?status quo policies rather than temper them.

Giving a preview of her book, which hit the stores this week, Fair said that Pakistan has no claims on Kashmir. "There isn?t in the instrument of accession which was signed between the Maharaja of Kashmir and the Indian Government and there was nothing in the terms of the partition that says that Pakistan should get Kashmir," she said, adding Pakistan's sole claim to Kashmir derives from the notion of two-nation theory.

Fair argues that Pakistan's demand for Kashmir is not a security seeking demand.

"Their claims to Kashmir are ideological," she noted. Because the army's concerns and preoccupations are ideological as much as military in scope, the Pakistan Army views its struggle with India in existential terms, she said.

"For Pakistan's men on horseback, not winning, even repeatedly, is not the same thing as losing. But simply giving up and accepting the status quo and India?s supremacy, is, by definition, defeat. As a former chief of army staff explained to me in 2000, Pakistan?s generals would always prefer to take a calculated risk and be defeated than to do nothing at all.

"Pakistan's army will insist on action at almost any cost, even that of presiding over a hollow state. After all, if the Pakistani state were to make such concessions to India, it would no longer be a state worth presiding over," she said.

In her book, running into more than 300 pages, Fair said that the likelihood that Pakistan?s military or even civilian
leadership will abandon the state?s long-standing and expanding revisionist goals and prosecute a policy of normalization with India is virtually nil.

"The Pakistan Army has never ceased trying to seize Kashmir, nor has it ever been able to fathom the notion of normalization with India.

Neither the army nor the country's security managers have ever been able to see the events of Partition as Pakistan?s past; rather, Partition permeates the present and casts a long shadow over the future," Fair wrote.

Pakistan Army wants to keep Kashmir issue alive: American scholar

Excellent and on the dot. I expressed similar opinion on these fora and someone trotted out rote lines. Kashmir is not the issue it's the pak mindset represented by its army which reflects a typical Pakistani mindset. Very very important they not get any part of j&k

C Christine Fair ehhh enough to understand her obsession



:) and this shows who does not want that kashmir issue be resolved.

Its NOT India or Pakistan or Pakistan army but those weapon industries who are selling arms to both countries

BS. You probably even believe your own BS.
 
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Fighting to the End: The Pakistan Army's Way of War Hardcover
by C. Christine

Since Pakistan was founded in 1947, its army has dominated the state. The military establishment has locked the country in an enduring rivalry with India, with the primary aim of wresting Kashmir from it. To that end, Pakistan initiated three wars over Kashmir-in 1947, 1965, and 1999-and failed to win any of them. Today, the army continues to prosecute this dangerous policy by employing non-state actors under the security of its ever-expanding nuclear umbrella. It has sustained a proxy war in Kashmir since 1989 using Islamist militants, as well as supporting non-Islamist insurgencies throughout India and a country-wide Islamist terror campaign that have brought the two countries to the brink of war on several occasions. In addition to these territorial revisionist goals, the Pakistani army has committed itself to resisting India's slow but inevitable rise on the global stage.

Despite Pakistan's efforts to coerce India, it has achieved only modest successes at best. Even though India vivisected Pakistan in 1971, Pakistan continues to see itself as India's equal and demands the world do the same. The dangerous methods that the army uses to enforce this self-perception have brought international opprobrium upon Pakistan and its army. And in recent years, their erstwhile proxies have turned their guns on the Pakistani state itself.

Why does the army persist in pursuing these revisionist policies that have come to imperil the very viability of the state itself, from which the army feeds? In Fighting to the End, C. Christine Fair argues that the answer lies, at least partially, in the strategic culture of the army. Through an unprecedented analysis of decades' worth of the army's own defense publications, she concludes that from the army's distorted view of history, it is victorious as long as it can resist India's purported drive for regional hegemony as well as the territorial status quo. Simply put, acquiescence means defeat. Fighting to the End convincingly shows that because the army is unlikely to abandon these preferences, Pakistan will remain a destabilizing force in world politics for the foreseeable future.

Ten Fictions that Pakistani Defense Officials Love to Peddle
C. Christine Fair
The U.S.-Pakistan “strategic dialogue” has restarted yet again. I would be remiss if I did not point that it has never been strategic and it has certainly not been a dialogue. No doubt the Pakistanis are worried that wary American taxpayers and their congressional representatives may close the checkbook for good when the last U.S. soldier departs from Afghanistan. In the spirit of perpetual rent-seeking, Pakistani defense officials have recently alighted upon Washington to offer the same tired and hackneyed narratives that are tailored to guilt the Americans into keeping the gravy train chugging along.

Here are the top ten ossified fictions that Pakistani defense officials are pedaling and what you need to know to call the “Bakvas Flag” on each of them.

1. “Our relationship should be strategic rather than transactional.”

Nonsense and here’s why. For the U.S.-Pakistan relationship to be “strategic,” there should be a modicum of convergence of interests in the region if not beyond. Yet, there is no evidence that this is the case. In fact, Pakistan seems most vested in undermining U.S. interests in the region. In the name of the conflict formerly known as the Global War on Terror (GWOT), the United States has given Pakistan some $27 billion in military and financial aid as well as lucrative reimbursements. However, during these same years, Pakistan has continued to aid and abet the Afghan Taliban and allied militant groups such as the Haqqani Network. These organizations are the very organizations that have killed American military and civilian personnel in Afghanistan along with those of our allies in the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) and countless more Afghans, in and out of uniform. This is in addition to the flotilla of Islamist militant groups that Pakistan uses as tools of foreign policy in India. Foremost among them is the Lashkar-e-Taiba, which is proscribed by the United States and which is responsible for the most lethal terror operations in India and, since 2006, has openly operated against Americans in Afghanistan.

2. “The United States has been an unreliable ally.”

Rubbish. Pakistani officials enjoy invoking the two treaties, the Central Treaty Organization (CENTO) and the Southeast Treaty Organization (SEATO) through which the United States and Pakistan ostensibly were allies. They lament that despite these partnerships and commitments, the United States did not help Pakistan in its wars with India (1965 and 1971) and even aided non-aligned India in its 1962 war with Communist China. It should be noted that Americans were never party to CENTO; rather, they maintained an observer status, and Americans were leery of letting the Pakistanis join SEATO, fearing that it was a ruse to suck the alliance into the intractable Indo-Pakistan dispute. In point of fact, Pakistani officials beginning with Muhammad Ali Jinnah, Liaquat Ali Khan, and General Ayub Khan repeatedly sought to join American military alliances in exchange for money and war materiel.

While Pakistan professed a commitment to America’s anti-Communist agenda, it sought these partnerships to build its military capabilities to continue challenging India. Until the 1950s, the United States had no such interest in Pakistan.

When the United States finally embraced such partnerships, the treaties were specifically designed to combat Communist aggression ensuring that the United States had no obligation to support Pakistan in its wars with India. The United States certainly had no obligation to support Pakistan in the 1965 war with India, which it started. Pakistan’s grouses about the American position during the 1971 war is particularly disingenuous. As Gary Bass has detailed, President Nixon violated numerous American laws to continue providing military support to the abusive West Pakistani regime as it prosecuted a genocidal campaign against the Bengalis in East Pakistan.

3. “The United States used Pakistan for its anti-Soviet jihad.”

More fiction. Pakistan and Afghanistan came into conflict immediately after Pakistan’s independence because Afghanistan rejected Pakistan’s membership in the United Nations and laid claim to large swaths of Pakistani territory in Balochistan, the tribal areas, and in the then-Northwest Frontier Province. As such, Pakistan began instrumentalizing Islamists in Afghanistan as early as the 1950s. Following the ouster of King Zahir Shah by Mohammed Daoud Khan in 1973, Daoud began prosecuting Afghanistan’s Islamists who opposed his modernizing policies. Shia Islamists fled to Iran and Sunni Islamists generally fled to Pakistan. In 1974, then-civilian Prime Minister Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto established a cell within Pakistan’s Interservices Intelligence Directorate (ISI) to mobilize these exiled dissidents for anti-regime operations in Afghanistan. Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq continued the nascent “Afghan jihad” after seizing power from Bhutto in 1977.

Despite Zia’s numerous pleas for support, the Carter administration had no interest in supporting Pakistan’s jihad in Afghanistan prior to the Soviet invasion. In fact, in April of 1979, the administration sanctioned Pakistan for violating U.S. law with respect to progress on its nuclear weapons program. The United States did not begin overtly funding Zia’s “Afghan jihad” until 1982, only after the pro-Zia Reagan government was able to secure waivers for such aid due to the 1979 sanctions. Needless to say, the Reagan administration fully supported the “jihad” in Afghanistan. However, it is important to note that Pakistan funded its own Afghan policy out of its own resources well before the first American dollar entered the fray.

4. “The United States is responsible for the development of al Qaeda and Islamist militancy.”

Not entirely a pack of lies. It was not the United States that conceived of the struggle against the Soviets in Afghanistan as a “jihad.” That was Pakistan’s own invention. Pakistan was very distrustful of Pashtun nationalism and feared that an ethnic mobilization in Afghanistan would give a fillip to Pakistan’s own restless Pashtuns. Pakistan insisted upon a jihad and the Reagan Administration vigorously supported the operation, with Saudi assistance. The ISI insisted that it receive the funds from the CIA and run the jihadi groups. The ISI sought to limit the CIA’s access to the jihadi organizations and to the ISI. These fire walls remained intact, despite the CIA’s efforts to subvert them.

Owing to the ISI cell established by Z.A. Bhutto and subsequently maintained by Zia, the main militant groups were established and in place before the Soviets crossed the Amu Darya on Christmas Day 1979. That anti-Soviet jihad surely was the crucible that gave birth to the global Islamist militancy that mobilized under the banner of al-Qaeda. It is difficult to imagine the existence of al-Qaeda had the United States supported the insurgency in Afghanistan on ethnic rather than jihadist terms.

5. “The United States created the Taliban.”

Nonsense. This assertion deliberately conflates the so-called Afghan jihadi organizations from the 1970s and 1980s with the Taliban movement that emerged after 1994. Curiously, the former tended to be associated with the Jamaat-e-Islami variety of South Asian Islam while the latter are nearly exclusively Deobandi in orientation.

While the United States, along with Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, heavily funded the Islamist militants fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan, the United States left the region in 1989. Pakistan remained engaged. General Zia was nonplussed that theGeneva Accords were signed to end the conflict in Afghanistan without an explicit statement that an Islamist government would be ensconced in Kabul. Pakistan continued to support the various Islamist militants, hoping that one would be able to stabilize Afghanistan and would act on Pakistan’s interests. First, the Pakistanis supported the Pashtun Islamist Gulbuddin Hekmatyar. When he failed to bring a pro-Pakistan, stable government, Pakistan switched support to the Taliban under the watch of Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto. The Taliban emerged from an archipelago of Deobandi madrassahs in Pakistan who coalesced to challenge the predations of the jihad-era warlords who were ravaging Afghanistan. While the ISI did not create the Taliban, it did provide all the necessary support that enabled the organization to control most of Afghanistan by 1998. The United States at times flirted with recognizing the Taliban, but it did not create—much less facilitate—its rise.

6. “Pakistan has lost more due to its participation in the Global War on Terrorism than it has gained in U.S. assistance.”

Depends upon who is counting and what is counted. This claim has two components: economic and human.

With respect to the first, American and Pakistani interlocutors disagree on the actual amount of funding Pakistan has received and where that money went once it arrived in Pakistan. Much ($10.7 billion) of the American cash flowing to Pakistan has been in the form of Coalition Support Funds, which were intended to reimburse Pakistan’s military for the marginal costs associated with supporting the GWOT. Americans note that the terms of reimbursement were lucrative and lament there was little oversight of the program. That is the fault of the United States for poor scrutiny as much as it is Pakistan’s for submitting bogus or inflated claims. Pakistan’s military has complained that it has seen only a portion of this amount as the Pakistan government took a share first. The army grouses that it has become an “army for rent” in the eyes of Pakistanis and has suffered considerable losses while being deprived its economic dues.

So Pakistan is right to question the degree of American generosity and it is right to question whether payments for “services rendered” is even generosity. However, Pakistan is one of the biggest reasons why we are fighting the GWOT in the first place. The Pakistanis made the Taliban the effective force that they were on September 10, 2001, and Pakistan continues to undermine U.S. efforts to retard the Taliban’s efforts to retake power in Afghanistan. Osama Bin Laden was safely ensconced in Abbottabad despite ten years of Pakistan assurances that he was not in Pakistan. And apart from the Taliban, Pakistan is responsible for much of the Islamist terrorism in India.

With respect to the second consideration, Pakistan asserts that it has been a victim of terror since 2001. Pakistanis claim that this is due to militant anger with Pakistan’s support of the United States and its various war efforts. There is some truth to this claim. However, the very militants savaging Pakistan are offshoots of the same militants that the state has long nurtured. Whose fault is this?

In fact, there is a strong case to be made that Pakistan owes India and the West generally, and the United States in particular, because of the enormous human and financial costs these states have had to undertake to manage a terrorism problem, much of which has a Pakistani “return address.”

7. “We care about Usama Bin Laden as much as you.”

Prove it. Pakistan’s government undertook a “comprehensive” examination of how it is that the world’s most wanted terrorist was found a stone’s throw from Pakistan’s premier military academy. The leaked report from the so-called Abbottabad Commission details Herculean incompetence and ineptitude. However, no one has been arrested for harboring Bin Laden. In fact, the only person that Pakistan has arrested was the doctor, Shakil Afridi, who cooperated with the CIA‘s efforts to locate him. If Pakistan’s military and intelligence agency seriously understood the gravity of the problem associated with Mr. Bin Laden’s lengthy sanctuary in an important cantonment town, someone should have been sacked (for example, the Intelligence Chief, the Army Chief, police and/or ministry of interior officials). And, if Pakistan was as serious about the “UBL” problem as it claims, it certainly should have identified and arrested collaborators who facilitated Bin Laden’s peri-urban redoubt.

8. “Pakistan has an enduring interest with peace with India.”

Really? Tell me more. Pakistan has started every war with India over Kashmir and then failed to win any of them. Pakistan continues to sustain a flotilla of militant groups whose stated objectives are to coerce India to make some concession to Pakistan on Kashmir and generally to foment communal violence between India’s Hindu and Muslim communities. These groups now operate throughout India. Under Pakistan’s expanding nuclear umbrella, these groups have been able to undertake attacks far beyond Kashmir including the 2001 attack on India’s parliament, the 2006 attack on Mumbai’s commuter rail system and the 2008 multi-day siege of Mumbai among numerous other lesser known rampages. While it is true that Pakistan must implement a defense policy based on India’s defense capabilities rather than assumptions about India’s most magnanimous intentions, it is also true that India would have no interest in Pakistan if it were not for the numerous terrorist groups that Pakistan supports.

9. “Pakistan wants a stable Afghanistan.”

Maybe. Pakistan does want a stable Afghanistan provided that it is hostile to India and amenable to Pakistan. Pakistan has never accepted Afghanistan as a neighbor and insists upon it being a client state. If Pakistan cannot create an Islamist, pro-Pakistan regime in Kabul that is inhospitable to India, it would prefer chaos that it can manage.

Pakistan is seeking to calibrate many different developments in Afghanistan. First, it wants the United States to retain some presence such that it can continue marketing its relevance to Washington. Second, it wants some degree of Taliban representation in the Afghan government. However, it is not in Pakistan’s interests that the Taliban reconquer Afghanistan. After all, some Talibs hate Pakistan as much if not more than they hate the United States. An anti-Pakistan Taliban government could even offer reverse sanctuary to the Pakistani Taliban who fight the Pakistani state. This means that the Pakistanis prefer that the United States prop up a weak regime in Kabul. This will ensure permanent Pakistani relevance to Washington (and a concomitant stream of revenue) and it will encourage the Afghan Taliban to remain focused on Afghanistan—not Pakistan. As the U.S. security umbrella retracts, Pakistan can be sure that India will make a hasty retreat from the areas most important to Pakistan in the south and east of Afghanistan.

10. “The biggest hindrance to U.S.-Pakistan relations is a ‘trust deficit.’”

Is it Ground Hog Day? Pakistan has long marshalled a highly stylized history of American perfidy such that it can guilt the Americans into continued support. However, as the above shows, the problem is not a deficit of trust, but rather, a surplus of certitude. Both sides fully understand that America’s allies such as India are Pakistan’s enemies and Pakistan’s allies, such as the Taliban and Lashkar-e-Taiba, are the enemies of the United States. Both sides are certain that they want fundamentally different futures in Afghanistan and in India. Thus the biggest hindrance is the obfuscated reality that, in many ways, the United States and Pakistan are more enemies than they are allies.



C. Christine Fair is an assistant professor at Georgetown University in the School of Foreign Service. Follow her on twitter at @cchristinefair. She is the author of Fighting to the End: the Pakistan Army’s Way of War (Oxford University Press, forthcoming 2014).
 
Finally some westerner saying things as it is openly, without sugar coating. Right on spot. And for some Indians posting here that the dispute is being kept alive by some vested interests in India (along with pak and west, of-course), I don't think people who can influence decision in India want the dispute alive. They simply don't want the dispute settled with India at disadvantage. As the article has rightly pointed out, any perceived victory for Pakistan will only make it aggressive and try even harder. It's ultimate goal is India's destruction....

As the article has rightly pointed out, any perceived victory for Pakistan will only make it aggressive and try even harder. It's ultimate goal is India's destruction....

It's ultimate goal is India's destruction.... This is funny man. :omghaha: Did you listen when the Oath of Prime Minister of India was taken by Modi? That oath says that he swears he will create Akhad Bharat :omghaha: Akhand Bharat means United India that was pre 1947 partition.:omghaha: Only way he can create United India is by destroying Pakistan and Bangladesh and take over their respective land territories. India wants to destroy Pakistan not the other way around. India wants to destroy Pakistan, Bangladesh and all those countries in subcontinent which India views were part of United India before 1947 partition. You gullible Indian trolls. :omghaha:

Hatters gonna hate no doubt about it. :nono: :no: :cuckoo::stop: These people, like the author of this article, keep gonna run their mouth an spilling out their rotten brains. :blah: :bad: :omghaha::laughcry:
 
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It's ultimate goal is India's destruction.... This is funny man. :omghaha: Did you listen to the Oath of Prime Minister of India taken by Modi? That oath says that he swears he will to create Akhad Bharat :omghaha: Akhand Bharat means United India that was pre 1947 partition.:omghaha: Only way he can create United India is by destroying Pakistan and Bangladesh and take over their respective land territories. India wants to destroy Pakistan not the other way around. India wants to destroy Pakistan, Bangladesh and all those countries in subcontinent which India views were part of United India before 1947 partition. You gullible Indian trolls. :omghaha:
a vague ignorant comment with no facts, when did modi say he wants to create akhand bharat in his oath ceremony

u better stop listening to that bearded imam who told u these stuffs in the madarssa u study
 
It's ultimate goal is India's destruction.... This is funny man. :omghaha: Did you listen to the Oath of Prime Minister of India taken by Modi? That oath says that he swears he will to create Akhad Bharat :omghaha: Akhand Bharat means United India that was pre 1947 partition.:omghaha: Only way he can create United India is by destroying Pakistan and Bangladesh and take over their respective land territories. India wants to destroy Pakistan not the other way around. India wants to destroy Pakistan, Bangladesh and all those countries in subcontinent which India views were part of United India before 1947 partition. You gullible Indian trolls. :omghaha:

Hatters gonna hate no doubt about it. :nono: :no: :cuckoo::stop: These people, like the author of this article, keep gonna run their mouth an spilling out their rotten brains out. :blah: :bad: :omghaha::laughcry:

Change you name in this form. It does not suits the type your posts!!

It's not Kashmir which is responsible for Pakitan's situation but Terrorism. The Pakistan's own creation. The Kraken Pakistan created but cannot control. Once Pakistan uproot this monster goods days will start.
 
if kashmir and indian issues finish whom will give them 7bn$ yearly for play ?
 
Washington: Pakistan's Army does not want the Kashmir issue to be resolved as this would pose a serious challenge to their existence and their dominance in the country's political set up, a noted American scholar has said.

"They (Pakistan Army) are not going to do a settlement on Kashmir. Why would the Army allow a process to go forward that would obviate its own politics? I think that the best that India can hope for is some version of the status quo," said C Christine Fair, author of the 'Fighting to the End: The Pakistan Army's Way of War'.

Fair warned that the Pakistan Army would again try to scuttle the renewed peace initiative between the two South Asian neighbours, reflected in Prime Minister Narendra Modi's invitation to his Pakistan counterpart Nawaz Sharif to attend his swearing in ceremony; following which the two leaders had their first bilateral dialogue.

"The (Pakistan) Army would undercut him (Sharif)... all they have to do is to have a Lashkar-e-Taiba attack...opportunity for spoilers," Fair told a Washington audience yesterday at the formal launch of her book organised by the Hudson Institute, an eminent American think-tank.

"I really do not expect much out of it (Modi-Sharif peace initiative). The attack on the Indian Consulate in Herat, which was very likely done by Lashkar-e-Taiba or Haqqani network, is a really good testing of those waters," said Fair, who is Assistant Professor in the Security Studies at Georgetown University.

Agreed Husain Haqqani, the former Pakistan Ambassador to the US.

"Nawaz Sharif genuinely wants an opening of economic relationship with India. But does he really want to take on the business of shutting down the jihadi groups, there is no sign thereof so far," he said.

In her book, Fair writes Pakistan's conflict with India cannot be reduced simply to resolving the Kashmir dispute.

"Its problems with India are much more capacious than the territorial conflict over Kashmir."

The book has been published by the Oxford University Press, which is also bringing its Pakistan edition, but only after changing the cover, which she said "mocks and ridicules" the Pakistani Army.

"Pakistan's revisionism persists in regards to its efforts not only to undermine the territorial status quo in Kashmir but also to undermine India's position in the region and beyond. Pakistan will suffer any number of military defeats in its efforts to do so, but it will not acquiesce to India. This, for the Pakistan Army, is genuine and total defeat," Fair writes.

Even if at some point in the past Pakistan's existential struggle with India could have been mitigated through a mutually agreeable resolution of Kashmir, this is certainly no longer true, she argues, adding that it is possible that any efforts to appease Pakistan through territorial concessions on Kashmir may actually encourage Pakistan's anti?status quo policies rather than temper them.

Giving a preview of her book, which hit the stores this week, Fair said that Pakistan has no claims on Kashmir. "There isn?t in the instrument of accession which was signed between the Maharaja of Kashmir and the Indian Government and there was nothing in the terms of the partition that says that Pakistan should get Kashmir," she said, adding Pakistan's sole claim to Kashmir derives from the notion of two-nation theory.

Fair argues that Pakistan's demand for Kashmir is not a security seeking demand.

"Their claims to Kashmir are ideological," she noted. Because the army's concerns and preoccupations are ideological as much as military in scope, the Pakistan Army views its struggle with India in existential terms, she said.

"For Pakistan's men on horseback, not winning, even repeatedly, is not the same thing as losing. But simply giving up and accepting the status quo and India?s supremacy, is, by definition, defeat. As a former chief of army staff explained to me in 2000, Pakistan?s generals would always prefer to take a calculated risk and be defeated than to do nothing at all.

"Pakistan's army will insist on action at almost any cost, even that of presiding over a hollow state. After all, if the Pakistani state were to make such concessions to India, it would no longer be a state worth presiding over," she said.

In her book, running into more than 300 pages, Fair said that the likelihood that Pakistan?s military or even civilian
leadership will abandon the state?s long-standing and expanding revisionist goals and prosecute a policy of normalization with India is virtually nil.

"The Pakistan Army has never ceased trying to seize Kashmir, nor has it ever been able to fathom the notion of normalization with India.

Neither the army nor the country's security managers have ever been able to see the events of Partition as Pakistan?s past; rather, Partition permeates the present and casts a long shadow over the future," Fair wrote.

Pakistan Army wants to keep Kashmir issue alive: American scholar

Well, its understandable.

Pakistani Army benefits from painting India as enemy i.e portraying India as bogey which wants to destroy Pakistan and itself as an institution which keeps Pakistan safe from the bogey.

PA gets maximum share out of Pakistani budget and as long Kashmir issue is not solved it will keep enjoying the massive funds and the special status it enjoys.

The Pakistani Deep State, which includes powerful people in PA and ISI benefits hugely from the current status it enjoys and will be naturally, hostile to any changes/ plans that threaten it.
 
One thing I found very interesting in the video of the presentation by Ms. Fair, which I didn't know before, was regarding the Pakistan's involvement in Afghanistan. She says Pakistan's attempts at strategic depth in Afghanistan goes back to the time of its creation in 1947 and was continuation of the 'The great game' played by Britain against the Russian empire since 17th century. Pakistan actually got involved in Afghan Jihad in 1974, 5 years before soviet invasion of Afghanistan. The first US$ that went into the anti-soviet afghan resistance was in 1982 i.e. 8 years after Pakistan got involved in 'Afghan jihad' and 3 years after soviet invasion.
People should keep this in mind when Pakistani's keep peddling the BS that US was instrumental in creation of Taliban. Taliban was created around 1994, good 6 years after soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan, and also US withdrawal from the region.
 
One thing I found very interesting in the video of the presentation by Ms. Fair, which I didn't know before, was regarding the Pakistan's involvement in Afghanistan. She says Pakistan's attempts at strategic depth in Afghanistan goes back to the time of its creation in 1947 and was continuation of the 'The great game' played by Britain against the Russian empire since 17th century. Pakistan actually got involved in Afghan Jihad in 1974, 5 years before soviet invasion of Afghanistan. The first US$ that went into the anti-soviet afghan resistance was in 1982 i.e. 8 years after Pakistan got involved in 'Afghan jihad' and 3 years after soviet invasion.
People should keep this in mind when Pakistani's keep peddling the BS that US was instrumental in creation of Taliban. Taliban was created around 1994, good 6 years after soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan, and also US withdrawal from the region.

What is she saying?



 
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