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Any news pakistan will buy Cobra's Bell 412 or any other helicopter in large no this year or next year ?

There was an order for Bell 412's some years back , i myself saw the new ones in Multan AAB years back. Cobras are currently on hold, no new plans as far as i know. Maybe Fatman can expand. There were also reports that once the AH-1Z zulu would be available for export, Pakistan would go for them in all likelihood, but now in the current state of relations, it looks unlikely, T-129 and WZ-10 would be a better option.
 
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NO this is not multan AAB. check the background 'hills'. no hills in multan - flat lands!

I meant the second picture, from inside the hangar, you are referring to the first pic.
 
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Cabinet Division AW139, bought at 11.5 milion $ a piece. Stationed with 6 aviation squadron(ERC), at islamabad helipad adjacent to sports complex. These helis are maintained and flown by army aviation personnel.
 
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these are the first pic of newly acquired Puma helicopters. These helicopters are fitted with advanced and more powerful Makila engines which are also used on Super Puma series. These also have improved avionics, glass cockpit and digital four axes autopilot. Externally it has a wire mesh intake barriers, wire cutters and few are fitted with sponson fuel tanks for extended range. IMO the most beautiful helicopter.

This is one of the newly acquired refurbished Puma helicopters from UAE. This is an improved version of the existing 330 L puma helicopters operated by pakistan army. These have glass cockpit, imroved 4 axis autopilot and more powerful Makila engines.
 
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This is one of the newly acquired refurbished Puma helicopters from UAE. This is an improved version of the existing 330 L puma helicopters operated by pakistan army. These have glass cockpit, imroved 4 axis autopilot and more powerful Makila engines.

There are 14 such helos, as far as i know, and they are housed at Tarbella Ghazi aviation base. The squadron is newly raised and called 28 squadron. Now Ghazi base has 2 squadrons, 21 QRS (Quick Reaction Squadron) and 28 Cargo squadron.
Any news, when first of MI-14s are arriving Pakistan .
 
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Cabinet Division AW139, bought at 11.5 milion $ a piece. Stationed with 6 aviation squadron(ERC), at islamabad helipad adjacent to sports complex. These helis are maintained and flown by army aviation personnel.

one AW139 is in VIP config while the 3 other are configured for SAR activities esp during natural disasters
 
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one AW139 is in VIP config while the 3 other are configured for SAR activities esp during natural disasters

2 are configured for VVIP duties as far as i know. 3 are for SAR as you mentioned.
 
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There was an order for Bell 412's some years back , i myself saw the new ones in Multan AAB years back. Cobras are currently on hold, no new plans as far as i know. Maybe Fatman can expand. There were also reports that once the AH-1Z zulu would be available for export, Pakistan would go for them in all likelihood, but now in the current state of relations, it looks unlikely, T-129 and WZ-10 would be a better option.

30 Bell 412 are on order cleared by DSCA and US congress. Cobra's is another story. US 500m was earmarked for 12-14 AH-1Z's under CTSF but now it may be difficult.
 
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30 Bell 412 are on order cleared by DSCA and US congress. Cobra's is another story. US 500m was earmarked for 12-14 AH-1Z's under CTSF but now it may be difficult.

Are any been delivered yet?

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are the 412's EP or HP?
 
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There are 14 such helos, as far as i know, and they are housed at Tarbella Ghazi aviation base. The squadron is newly raised and called 28 squadron. Now Ghazi base has 2 squadrons, 21 QRS (Quick Reaction Squadron) and 28 Cargo squadron.
Any news, when first of MI-14s are arriving Pakistan .
well i was not aware of it by the way how many of these we have ordered
 
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Mi-14 are going to be primarily used as a firefighting tool. Around ten is what i have heard. They are going to be brought from Ukraine.
 
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Mi-14 are going to be primarily used as a firefighting tool. Around ten is what i have heard. They are going to be brought from Ukraine.

sir jee Ukraine him self don't have 10 from where they will provide us 10 MI-14?

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Are any been delivered yet?

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are the 412's EP or HP?


Pakistan - BELL 412EP Helicopters

WASHINGTON, September 15, 2010 -- The Defense Security Cooperation Agency notified Congress on 14 September of a possible Foreign Military Sale to Pakistan of BELL 412EP Helicopters as well as associated equipment and services. The total value, if all options are exercised, could be as high as $397 million.
The Government of Pakistan has requested a possible sale of up to thirty BELL 412EP Helicopters, spare and repair parts, support equipment, ferry services, air worthiness certification, publications and technical data, personnel training and training equipment, U.S. Government and contractor logistics, engineering, and technical support services, and other related elements of logistics support. The estimated cost is $397 million.
This proposed sale will contribute to the foreign policy and national security of the United States by helping to improve the security of a friendly country that has been and continues to be an important force for economic progress in South Asia and a partner in overseas contingency operations.
The proposed sale of the helicopters will increase Pakistan’s air capabilities to execute counterinsurgency operations, border security, search and rescue, and support for the civilian population in Pakistan. Pakistan, which already has Bell 412EP Helicopters in its inventory, will have no difficulty absorbing these additional helicopters into its armed forces.
The proposed sale of this equipment and support will not alter the basic military balance in the region.
The prime contractor will be Bell Helicopter in Fort Worth, Texas. There are no known offset agreements proposed in connection with this potential sale.
Implementation of this proposed sale will not require the assignment of any additional U. S. Government personnel in country. It is anticipated that two U.G. Government personnel will travel to Pakistan two times per year, one week per trip, for a period of up to five years to provide logistic support services.
There will be no adverse impact on U.S. defense readiness as a result of this proposed sale.
This notice of a potential sale is required by law; it does not mea
 
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sir jee Ukraine him self don't have 10 from where they will provide us 10 MI-14?

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Pakistan - BELL 412EP Helicopters

WASHINGTON, September 15, 2010 -- The Defense Security Cooperation Agency notified Congress on 14 September of a possible Foreign Military Sale to Pakistan of BELL 412EP Helicopters as well as associated equipment and services. The total value, if all options are exercised, could be as high as $397 million.
The Government of Pakistan has requested a possible sale of up to thirty BELL 412EP Helicopters, spare and repair parts, support equipment, ferry services, air worthiness certification, publications and technical data, personnel training and training equipment, U.S. Government and contractor logistics, engineering, and technical support services, and other related elements of logistics support. The estimated cost is $397 million.
This proposed sale will contribute to the foreign policy and national security of the United States by helping to improve the security of a friendly country that has been and continues to be an important force for economic progress in South Asia and a partner in overseas contingency operations.
The proposed sale of the helicopters will increase Pakistan’s air capabilities to execute counterinsurgency operations, border security, search and rescue, and support for the civilian population in Pakistan. Pakistan, which already has Bell 412EP Helicopters in its inventory, will have no difficulty absorbing these additional helicopters into its armed forces.
The proposed sale of this equipment and support will not alter the basic military balance in the region.
The prime contractor will be Bell Helicopter in Fort Worth, Texas. There are no known offset agreements proposed in connection with this potential sale.
Implementation of this proposed sale will not require the assignment of any additional U. S. Government personnel in country. It is anticipated that two U.G. Government personnel will travel to Pakistan two times per year, one week per trip, for a period of up to five years to provide logistic support services.
There will be no adverse impact on U.S. defense readiness as a result of this proposed sale.
This notice of a potential sale is required by law; it does not mea

There were confirmed reports that these were from Ukraine, but the number of these helis was a source of anonymity.

Can you confirm the number and origin?
 
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There were confirmed reports that these were from Ukraine, but the number of these helis was a source of anonymity.

Can you confirm the number and origin?

as per sir FATMAN .

Mi-14PG for fire-fighting. 2 have been purchased and most likely to be part of the 6 Sqdn which has the AW-139 as part of SAR during national disasters .

i am agree on it because ukrine has only 5 of them and they retired them so only two was worthy for use and upgrade so its right they are for fire fighting as we have lack of air borne fire fighting systems.

as we use LAMA and punjab gov owned bell before for such job
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as per sir FATMAN .

Mi-14PG for fire-fighting. 2 have been purchased and most likely to be part of the 6 Sqdn which has the AW-139 as part of SAR during national disasters .

i am agree on it because ukrine has only 5 of them and they retired them so only two was worthy for use and upgrade so its right they are for fire fighting as we have lack of air borne fire fighting systems.

as we use LAMA and punjab gov owned bell before for such job
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Yeah, currently the buckets are slung under the Bell 412 and Mi-17, the hip offering more capacity, lama and ecueril also use it as well.

6 squadron is getting some good machinery. AW139 is a good machine. Travelled once on the PM helicopter from multan to Isl.

The NH-90 is another aircraft the PAA should look into. a good machine.
 
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