Pakistan and Israel

[Kompromat]

WITH THE NAME YOU CHOSE TO YOURSELF YOU SHOULD
BE BAN

Everyone has Freedom of speech on this forum , if we dont apply this law you should be banned from a Pakistani forum for just being an Israeli.

But Managment is not baised and emotional , there are alot of Indians with names that shouldn't be on a Pakistani forum but they are allowed too--- its al about freedom.

 

[totach7]

And you should be banned for the icon(tank) you have chosen for yourself, it is not peaceful!

It is very peaceful................it what keep us alive from our "friendly"
next door people

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

totach, who is attacking who???

 

[smartsyco]

excuse me what did you just say ..... friendship with israil .... we would better decide suicide.....

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

PURE ORIENTAL IMAGINATION

Really?didnt ur first head os state talk about how dangerous Pakistan was?
Didnt u send ur F-16 to india in 1998 for strike on our nuke assets like u did with iraq?
Didnt u provide india with advanced tech in case of war with Pakistan on urgent basis?
Dont u oppose Pakistan in every manner u can?
U want peace ? Pervaiz Musharaf our ex-president did shake the hand of israeli president didnt he?Wat was the response?u should have decieded then.....even now we have no issues with israel except 2=
Occupation and illegal settlements.
Weapons to india.
You just leave giving weapons to india and friendship between israel and Pakistan would be pretty realistic,dont u think?

 

[Junaid375]

Why we cant have relations with israel :

1. ‘Gentlemen! Our soul is not for sale' - Liaquat Ali khan said it when US promised all possible military and economic assistance in case Pakistan recognized Israel

2. "Muslims are nothing except brothers"
"The believers are nothing else than brothers. So make reconciliation between your brothers, and fear Allah, that you may receive mercy." [Al-Hujjurat, 49:10]

3. They are killing our brothers and the lowest level of Iman is to condemn them, we have done more than that by boycotting them and allowing our PAF fighters to fight against them.

4. Its not an ARAB-ISRAEL issue..dont be ingnorant of values islam teach us, muslim living in Sudan or Australia is our brother as well.
its muslim they are killing , doesnt matter what nationality what race what colour ....

Now comparing Israel's military strength and Pakistan's armed forces,
I dont think pakistan is stronger than israel..technologically etc

But dont forget :

1. We are muslims and this will not be the first time we will defeat a larger/stronger army (if a war happens b/w israel and pakistan)

2. Its always "Man behind the GUN", proved by PAF over and over again in Middle-East (1967 and 1973) when we gunned down IAF aricrafts (which we never encountered before in any war) by flying planes we dont have in PAF inventory (correct me if i am wrong here)

chill out brothers, Pakistan is better off without accepting Israel.
and when it will come to an armed conflict, we will see

 

[T-Rex]

It is very peaceful................it what keep us alive from our "friendly"
next door people

And some think that nukes will keep them alive from "friendly next door landgrabber". Now you can't really blame them can you?

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It is very peaceful................it what keep us alive from our "friendly"
next door people

And some think that nukes will keep them alive from "friendly next door Jewish nukes". Now you can't really blame them can you?

 

[Kompromat]

It is very peaceful................it what keep us alive from our "friendly"
next door people

This is what happens when you go into someone else's house without permission with a gun, Make your self a cup of coffee , sit on their couch while putting your legs on their mirror table and turn on their plasma tv and watch soccor.

Then you put bullets in the bodies of the owner's family and keep their kids hostage.

There is more coming Kid , sit tight

 

[matrixology]

this is all weird.

 

[Sparten80]

Interesting thread.

Pakistan and Isreal do have much in common

Both established with a strong religion factor though thoroughly secular (Pakistan later becomes an Islamic Republic)

Have hostile neighboor(s), and outnumbered numerically in several wars but still standing and resilient as well as resourceful.

Share many of the same domestic problems; eg. having to absorb different ethnic groups from diverse regions often and in many cases not native to the soil (Israel: Jews from all over the world/Pakistan: Muslims from all over South Asia, Burma etc..) and striving to make a national identity.

Establishing a national language to facilitate communication (Israel had to re-invent Hebrew, calling on its noted Jewish Linguist in Germany to modernize Hebrew into the modern form spoken in Israel today and taught to the masses/ Pakistan, opting to choose Urdu, a non-native language and imparting it on the masses with a particularly Pakistani flavour to it)

Even socially and from a personal point of view, I have found that the Pakistani psyche and Jewish get along quite well. In university, I had several Jewish friends and one of my best friends in Karachi is a Jewish Pakistani. We are very similar in our approach and mentality.

In saying all of this, it is important to recognize the difference between someone who is Jewish and someone that is a zionist.

And there is quite a difference between the two. Infact, many God-fearing Jews dont agree with Zionists. Many Zionist are non-practising jews, very secular in their ways, and actually try to pass themselves off as European or American Whites. Many zionists also abhor overtly practising Jews and restrictions on eating pork.

The reason I point all this out is that, while I feel Pakistan and Israel have lots in common and would benefit from having cordial relations. We would actually make great allies. Both countries have much to offer each other. The sad truth is that the extreme Zionists are in true control of Israel and continue to refuse to give Palestinians a free state and subjugate them with extreme force.

My heart goes out to all the millions of Palestinians who have suffered, lost their lives, and are striving for a nation of their own. My solidarity is with them. While, I do believe Jews are entitled to having their own country, a viable Palestinian state is a prerequisite to ever establishing relations with Israel and remains our (Pakistani) principal stance on the issue.

It would be foolish on the part of Israel to overtly work with india and get involve in the affairs of South Asia as that would only provoke a reactionary response. As Pakistani's we want peace in the Middle East, we want an end to the Palestinian occupation and the establishment of a viable Palestinian state and peaceful relations with all neighboors. This is in the interest of all countries involved and more significantly, for Israel itself who must co-exist in the region.

I have had this discussion with many of Jewish/Israeli colleagues, and even they agree that Pakistan would be a country they would love to have relations with. We still have a small Jewish community in the country, and its been hypothesized that several of the tribes in Pakistan may have links to the lost tribes. Pakistan would also benefit and can learn much from Israeli's.

Lets hope the Israeli people can bring about a more moderate government and expedite the creation of a viable Palestinian State and usher in a new era of peace in the Middle East, peaceful relations with its neighboors and when the time is right, a benevolent relationship with Pakistan as well.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

to be honest with you, i just want some of their weapons.

lol


actually one of my main problems with them is that they think they invented hummous and baba ghannoush! (which is bullshit)

 

[r4rehan]

Conflict between Pakistan and Israel is not territorial, but Ideological. A 6 months old child does not become a threat to Israel's existence but even then the child that cannot recognize his/her own parents is assassinated. Do you ever ask why?









Quran Says - Al-Ma'idah -

يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ لاَ تَتَّخِذُواْ الْيَهُودَ وَالنَّصَارَى أَوْلِيَاء بَعْضُهُمْ أَوْلِيَاء بَعْضٍ وَمَن يَتَوَلَّهُم مِّنكُمْ فَإِنَّهُ مِنْهُمْ إِنَّ اللّهَ لاَ يَهْدِي الْقَوْمَ الظَّالِمِينَ (5:51)

O YOU who have attained to faith! Do not take the Jews and the Christians for your allies: they are but allies of one another [72] and whoever of you allies himself with them becomes, verily, one of them; behold, God does not guide such evildoers. [73]

Yahood (Jews) and Hanood (Followers of Hindu Religion) are not our friends, not because of money, nor because of land, neither because of power-sharing and never because of business BUT we are on two sides of the line drawn by God Almighty.

ISREAL INSHALLAH tumhara ALLAH jald faisla kare ga Hamare Hatoon inshaALLAH ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, we are ready to fight we are ready to be died we are to kill every evil those kill innocent kids ,,,,,

we are waiting for what every muslim knows that

<(_|_)| AKBAR

 

[Huda]

Conflict between Pakistan and Israel is not territorial, but Ideological. A 6 months old child does not become a threat to Israel's existence but even then the child that cannot recognize his/her own parents is assassinated. Do you ever ask why?









Quran Says - Al-Ma'idah -

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O YOU who have attained to faith! Do not take the Jews and the Christians for your allies: they are but allies of one another [72] and whoever of you allies himself with them becomes, verily, one of them; behold, God does not guide such evildoers. [73]

Yahood (Jews) and Hanood (Followers of Hindu Religion) are not our friends, not because of money, nor because of land, neither because of power-sharing and never because of business BUT we are on two sides of the line drawn by God Almighty.

OH MY GOD
this is unbelievable

 

[r4rehan]

Yes ALLAH KNOWS EVERY THING ......

what behind in their mind and what behind in their heart ,,,,,,

<(_|_)| AKBAR

 

[mughaljee]

This is one reason among many why we hate israel.