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Water Flows or Blood

Reiterating their demand for the defence of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, thousands of Pakistani farmers alongside the Farmer Wing of Jamat ud Dawah lead by patriot Professor Hafiz Muhammed Saeed lashed out at the recent Indian blockage of water that rightfully belonged to the Pakistani fields.

In a protest one of a kind – hundreds of tractors marched along Mall Road and gathered at Nasir Bagh area of Lahore. Demanding an end to the water terrorism being committed by India, the farmers showed their courage and determination to defending their rights .Their emotions were described by the banners they held. From ‘Water or War’, ‘Diversion of Pakistani Rivers = Indian Water Bomb’, and ‘Liberate Kashmir to Secure Water’. Realising the realities on the ground and unstinted by the fake promises and photo-sessions by the government ministers in contact with their Indian couterparts they held up a banner which read “No Peace with Indian Water Aggression”. Hafiz Muhammad Saeed once again reiterated his pledge for peace in the region and said that its India which is imposing war on Pakistan.

“My crime is that I speak for the oppressed people of occupied Kashmir and India, my Deen demands that I should speak for Indian Muslims and other minorities subjugated by ruling elite of India,” he said.


Hafiz Saeed also spoke of the hypocrisy of UN Security Council and talked about how they were in haste while imposing sanctions against Jamat-ud-Dawah but totally silent on the controversial Indian projects in disputed territory.

Hafiz Saeed said that by water aggression India wants to starve and disintegrate Pakistan, and that Pakistan’s rulers must come forward to stop Indian aggression against Pakistan. He warned the aggressors that this protest was infact just the beginning of the “Farmer Kashmir Caravan” movement against the water terrorism being committed. The farmers showed their support by loud chants and raising their pitchforks and spades in the air. He also added that JuD would start the movement in all four provinces and Azad (liberated) Kashmir and revive the combined feelings for the need of defending the homeland against the Indian threat.

The Water Rally was also addressed by Jamat-ud-Dawah’s head of Political affairs Hafiz Abdur Rehman Makki, convener Tehreek Hurmat-e-Rasool Moulana Ameer Hamza, Moulana Hasnain Siddiqi, Inamullah, Abdul Qadir Subhani, Abul Aziz Alvi, Asfhfaq Jutt and others.

Head of farmer wing of Jamat-ud-Dawah Ashfaq Jutt said farmers cried in front of everybody that there is no water for cultivation but no one took notice of it, now this is Hafiz Saeed who heard our cries and helped us to show the world that how we the farmers of Pakistan are suffering due to Indian water aggression. On behalf of farmers of all four provinces Ashfaq Jutt thanked Hafiz Saeed for his support for the noble cause of irrigation water.

It was a unique demonstration to protest Indian water aggression by bringing hundreds tractors on the Mall to show how much Pakistani farmers are affected and concerned about decreasing water in Pakistani rivers. The speakers said that if the current situation continues then Punjab and Sindh provinces may become desertswhich will be a huge blow to Pakistan’s economy, security and stability.


Water Flows or Blood Pakistan Ka Khuda Hafiz

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if we don't save, tomorrow we only have empty hand only!!! - Swami Vevakanandar.
 
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Even if there is no violation, that will not stop the death and dehydration of millions. If India does not admit its wrong-doing and come to an agreement then those dams and barrages will become targets.

If there is no violation, how can there be any "wrong doing". A bit confused about that part. Anyways, do read post # 38 by fateh71. He has provided a great argument.
 
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Following are the options that Pakistan has :
1) Bomb those dams, like every Pakistani here is secretly wishing.

Consequence : Punjab gets flooded. All agriculture is destroyed. India will retaliate with force.. and India has more force than ever before.

2) Solve the dispute with legal talks.

Consequence: If Pakistan's claims are genuine and the water problems are not due to poor irrigation in Pak, then India will revert in whatever way India was violating the treaty.

3) Rant about it.
Consequence: Nothing. Nada. Zilch. Zero ;)

btw, we all know how external elements have been consistently terrorizing India and 26/11 took it to a new level. Irrespective of what the Pakistani members express on this forum it is well known throughout the world that the blueprint, training and execution of the Mumbai attacks originated in Pakistan.. Along with every other major terrorist attack. Even if India is doing something wrong, (and I dont think that is the case) you are only getting repaid in your own currency :)
 
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Indians need to worry too

some water facts

By the year 2020, says a recent World Bank report, most major Indian cities will run dry. Given the state of the monsoon this year, it would appear that the World Bank report has come true almost a decade earlier.

Severe water shortage had already led to a growing number of conflicts across the country, with 90 per cent of India's territory served by inter-state rivers.

India's supply of water too is rapidly dwindling primarily due to mismanagement of water resources, although over-pumping and pollution are also significant contributors.

Climate change is expected to worsen the situation by causing erratic and unpredictable weather, which could drastically diminish the supply of water coming from rainfall and glaciers.


Water.org, an NGO with which Hollywood actor Matt Damon is closely attached, gives some terrifying water facts (globally):

3.575 million people die each year from water-related diseases
43% of water-related deaths are due to diarrhoea.
84% of water-related deaths are in children ages 0 - 14.
98% of water-related deaths occur in the developing world.
884 million people, lack access to safe water supplies, approximately one in eight people.
The water and sanitation crisis claims more lives through disease than any war claims through guns.
At any given time, half of the world's hospital beds are occupied by patients suffering from a water-related disease.
Less than 1% of the world's fresh water (or about 0.007% of all water on earth) is readily accessible for direct human use.


More water facts

An American taking a five-minute shower uses more water than the typical person living in a developing country slum uses in a whole day.
About a third of people without access to an improved water source live on less than $1 a day. More than two thirds of people without an improved water source live on less than $2 a day.
Poor people living in the slums often pay 5-10 times more per litre of water than wealthy people living in the same city.
Without food a person can live for weeks, but without water you can expect to live only a few days.
The daily requirement for sanitation, bathing, and cooking needs, as well as for assuring survival, is about 13.2 gallons per person.
Over 50 percent of all water projects fail and less than five percent of projects are visited, and far less than one percent have any longer-term monitoring.
Only 62% of the world's population has access to improved sanitation - defined as a sanitation facility that ensures hygienic separation of human excreta from human contact.
Every 15 seconds, a child dies from a water-related disease.
Millions of women and children spend several hours a day collecting water from distant, often polluted sources.




Climate change, another threat

In an unprecedented incident, a 30-year-old man, who was part of a 1,000-strong group protesting against the stringent water cut outside the Bombay Municipal Corporation headquarters recently, died of apparent cardiac failure during a police lathicharge.

Viral Dholakia, who died before he could be taken to GT Hospital a few metres away, was a founder member of Swabhimaan, an NGO set up by Narayan Rane's son, Nitesh, who was also leading the protest.

Incidents like these, however weird they may seem now, are bound to get repeated unless we sit up and take some drastic steps to counter water crisis, which is sure to assume alarming proportions in years to come

With climate change set to have unpredictable consequences on water regime, the action plan, he said, aims at increasing water use efficiency by 20 per cent and promote basin level integrated water resources management.

Noting that efficient use of crop water can increase the gross irrigated area either by increasing the irrigated cropped area or the irrigation intensity, the prime minister said that the second green revolution could come from technologies developed in the private sector.

"Water related issues need to be addressed with full involvement of local people and taking into account the local conditions. Farmers should be consulted in any agricultural water management initiatives.

"Women too play a key role in food production activities in many countries. A special effort should be made to involve them in decision making," he said.


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A few causes

This crisis is not just the disturbance in the demand and supply curve but is also about mismanagement of water resources.

India's water crisis is a man-made problem. One of the major problems is water pollution.

New Delhi alone produces 3.6 million cubic meters of sewage every day, but because of poor managementm less than half is effectively treated. The remaining untreated waste is dumped into the Yamuna River. Thus a combination of sewage disposal, industrial effluents, and chemicals from farm runoffs, arsenic and fluoride has rendered India's rivers unfit for drinking, irrigation, and even industrial purposes.

Also, the over-usage of ground water due to the unavailability of sufficient water for irrigation has led to a tremendous decrease in the level of ground water.

Also, because of global warming, rainfalls have become erratic and unpredictable because of which the agricultural sector has been affected seriously.

We need to take rational steps to manage water in India before it becomes an international crisis, as this will affect the nation's economy and will also lead to various water-borne diseases.

The reasons for this extreme drop rate lie mainly in the use of groundwater for irrigation, according to B M Jha, chairman of the Indian Central Ground Water Board.

The Central Ground Water Board is the apex national organisation, working under the ministry of water resources and is responsible for various activities related to exploration, development and management of groundwater resources in the country.

In the wake of the Green Revolution, irrigation of cropland in India has taken on a new dimension.

As the major reasons for the drop in the water table in the north-western part of the country, Jha cites the accompanying gradual change in the cropping pattern from wheat to paddy-grown rice, the latter being a more water intensive crop, as well as the free power or the flat power tariff for running the irrigation pump rigs.


How grave is the crisis?

In India, the groundwater table in some regions is dropping dramatically. A team of researchers led by Matthew Rodell of the Hydrological Sciences Branch of NASA recently measured just how severe the situation is for the states of Rajasthan, Punjab and Haryana (including Delhi).

The results were published in August 2009, in the online edition of the science magazine Nature.

According to these results, the water table in these regions is dropping by 17.7 + 4.5 cubic kilometres annually. During the August 2002-October 2008 study period, the groundwater loss was 109 cubic kilometres.

This corresponds to twice the volume of India's largest surface water reservoir.

Most Indian cities to go dry by 2020

India is expected to experience a severe water crisis by 2020 with the per capita availability of water projected to be less than 1,000 cubic metres.

Indian water scenario was a matter of grave concern, as 85 per cent of water was used for agriculture, 10 per cent for industry and five per cent for domestic use, according to a paper presented at a national symposium in Coimbatore, Tamil Nadu.

Being a developing nation with a large population on the negative side of the poverty line, economic water scarcity (limited access to fresh water because of lower affordability) assumed equal, if not, greater importance as that of physical water scarcity, it said.

Quoting a World Bank study, it said of the 27 Asian cities with population of over 10 lakh (1 million), Chennai and Delhi were ranked as the worst performing metropolitan cities in terms of water availability per day, while Mumbai was ranked as second worst performer, and Kolkata the fourth worst.

Severe water shortage had already led to a growing number of conflicts across the country, with 90 per cent of India's territory served by inter-state rivers.

The row between Karnataka and Tamil Nadu over river Cauvery waters, between Maharashtra and Karnataka over river Godavari, and between Madhya Pradesh and Gujarat over the Narmada waters are some of the confilcts, the paper said.

The conflicts are being bitterly fought at all levels, imposing very high economic environmental costs.

Climate change projections showed India's water problems were only likely to worsen and with more rain expected to fall in fewer days and the rapid melting of glaciers, especially in the western Himalayas, India would need to gear up to tackle increasing incidence of droughts and floods, the paper said.

Global fresh water supplies were continuously stressed by rising demands from growing population and its ever increasing needs for hygiene, sanitation, food and industrial needs.

While the world's population tripled in the 20th century, the use of renewable water resources has grown six-fold and within next 50 years, the world population would increase by another 40 to 50 per cent, it claimed.

On water facts, the paper said that a billion people in the world do not have access to safe water, which was roughly one sixth of the world's population.

About 1.8 million people died every year as a result of diseases caused by unclean water and poor sanitation, which amounted to around 5,000 deaths a day.

The simple act of washing hands with soap and water can reduce diarrhoeal cases by over 40 per cent, since water-related disease was the second biggest killer of children worldwide, after acute respiratory infections like tuberculosis, it said.


Government initiatives

According to the chairman of the Indian Central Ground Water Board, the Indian government has taken various steps to get the groundwater problem under control.

Rainwater harvesting und artificial recharge schemes are playing a major role in this endeavour.

Other important points are capacity building, an awareness campaign on rainwater harvesting and conservation of water resources and regulation of groundwater development in selected areas of the country.

Along with the central government, the state governments are also actively involved in the fight against the dropping water table.

They are offering stimuli to grow crops that require less water, they are placing restrictions on financial institutions providing loans for procurement of submersible pump rigs, and they are trying to stagger the sowing season in such a way as to reduce the peak water demand.
 
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They are really trying to provoke us, eh?

We're going to have to destroy those dams :sniper:

Even if there is no violation, that will not stop the death and dehydration of millions. If India does not admit its wrong-doing and come to an agreement then those dams and barrages will become targets.

don't know how many times i have to give the same proof to you guys again and again that indian is not stoling your water instead of your own goverment is responsible for this who is not making dam on pakistaan side...


Pakistani people should also introspects and listen jamat ali shah too.

Please listen carefully what is your IWT water commissioner is saying(He is a top most person in this issue from pakistan so he knows reality better than us) :pop



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I am Sure that there will be a Hell of a WAR in Future b/w us ... & its 100%
 
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u kill hundreds Muslims everday in KAshmir, u guyz take our Bangladesh, u guys try to stop funds to Pakistan, u guyz support Balochistan liberation army, u guyz fund terrorists in Pakistan & now we have nothing left...........now u r targeting economy(agriculture) by cutting our water......Y??????????????
scared of us????

do u know two three dayz back i come to conclusion that if u want to destroy a country just some how...........let it face electricity shortage.......whole of it will collapse.......& i wonder WHY or DUE TO WHOM WE R FACING ELECTRIC pROBLEMS.....i think u guys r also behind it some how!!!!


Please continue till u get tired of teasing us & stop us from growing......
 
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SECRET’S OUT? S M Qureshi
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‘Pak water woes not due to India’
In what could come as a filip for India in its water disputes with Pakistan, the Pakistani foreign minisiter Shah Mehmood Qureshi has said in an interview to a Pakistani channel, that his country’s water woes are because of their own wastage and not because of India. “The total average canal supplies of Pakistan are 104 million acres/ft. And the water available at the farm gate is about 70 million acre/ft. Where does the 34 million acre/ft go? It’s not being stolen in India, it’s been wasted in Pakistan,” Qureshi said in the interview. AGENCIES

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Poor water management by Pakistan is the only reason Pakistanis are facing this water chrisis.......and leadership has finally started to acknowledge their incompetence......finally.

we r not talking about the water shortage dude we r asking for our water on which u r building dam!!!!
got it.........now come to the topic That PAKISTAN & INDIA water dispute not WHY PAKISTAN IS FACING WATER CRISIS!!!!!!!
 
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