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Thank you for your concerns ..If you had the capability to do so then you would have done it by now. We are the one with the dams ..be nice ;)
Actually we have the capability, jus waiting for the proper time, But i think if we dont take the revenge Allah will, and what i said before What goes around comes around, and it will happen be patient :hang2:
 
BTW...Can somebody share the link where GOI has talked abt these Dam. I tried searching for Kargil Dam, but all links take me back article mentoined by thread starter. Not able to find any GOI announcement regarding same.
 
BTW...Can somebody share the link where GOI has talked abt these Dam. I tried searching for Kargil Dam, but all links take me back article mentoined by thread starter. Not able to find any GOI announcement regarding same.

Thats right. The article posted by OP is actually from a blog picked up by other blogs and then by the newspaper well know for its anti-India rants. All the names, data, organisations are fake.
There seems to be systematic propaganda going on in Pakistan at the moment to raise the bogey of India stealing Pakistan's share of water, to hide the inefficiencies of Pakistani authorities.
Its a common trait seen in Pakistan in recent times to blame all their problems on others, even when its very clear that they are all self-afflicted ones. India seems to be their favorite whipping boy for all seasons.
Previously Pakistan raised the bogey of Indian hand in the terrorists activities and insurgencies going on in Pakistan. Now its water. Even some failure of defense between Pakistan and 3rd parties is being blamed on India.
 
WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND, Justice for all!:bunny::bunny:

But Our government is taking up lots of schemes like building dams, water management, rain water harvesting etc. Its now mandatory for every building to have facility to collect rain water.
As India is abundant and depends upon a lot of rivers ,also its taking steps to retain ground water level with steps that includes things like digging up more water retaining ponds, clearing silts in dams, ponds etc etc.
In fact a recent UN study has proved India is among the few countries where the total forest cover has been increased due to the Afforestation drive by the government.
Now the law makes it mandatory for any building to have structures to harvest rain water.

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As u can see various rivers and its tribuiteries are connecting India well and is well served by 2 good monsoons, there are plans to connect all the rivers (interlinking)so that the whole of the nation gains from rain in "any" part of the nation.

If India is building 52 projects in 2 of the small rivers to Pakistan, well you can imagine how many projects are there in the rest of the 100 of rivers..

India does n't depend on just 1 river and its tributaries like Pakistan.


Also in case of emergency India has the "money" to set up water schemes like in UAE for its cities.

India is the place where rains are good and with places recording the highest rainfall and all.
It just needs to address the problems in semi arid places of some north Indian areas , otherwise everything looks good for now.
 
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Even if there is no violation, that will not stop the death and dehydration of millions. If India does not admit its wrong-doing and come to an agreement then those dams and barrages will become targets.

I don't think india is doing any thing to divert water, its the same perception as the ones india have about terror camps in pakistan ;)
 
Blaming India for Pakistan's water woes a red herring?

Dawn.com Forum Blog Archive Water woes

In addition to global warming, which has affected the volume of the Indus River, Pakistan’s water shortages are caused by a long history of intensive irrigation regimes and poor drainage practices that have caused waterlogging and soil salinity throughout the countryside. And after dedicating most of its water supply to agriculture, Pakistan is left with only 10 per cent for drinking water and sanitation.
 
Thats right. The article posted by OP is actually from a blog picked up by other blogs and then by the newspaper well know for its anti-India rants. All the names, data, organisations are fake.
There seems to be systematic propaganda going on in Pakistan at the moment to raise the bogey of India stealing Pakistan's share of water, to hide the inefficiencies of Pakistani authorities.
Its a common trait seen in Pakistan in recent times to blame all their problems on others, even when its very clear that they are all self-afflicted ones. India seems to be their favorite whipping boy for all seasons.
Previously Pakistan raised the bogey of Indian hand in the terrorists activities and insurgencies going on in Pakistan. Now its water. Even some failure of defense between Pakistan and 3rd parties is being blamed on India.

I provided the link for the PAKISTANI NEWSPAPER. The Nation is not a blog. You indians think every news website is a blog except times of india :rolleyes:
 
Actually we have the capability, jus waiting for the proper time, But i think if we dont take the revenge Allah will, and what i said before What goes around comes around, and it will happen be patient :hang2:

Please don't bring religion into everything.The projects announced by India is also beneficial to the 138 million Muslims living in this country..
 
Let's not forget Reverse Osmosis - it is becoming more and more common as prices decrease. The problem is energy consumption to treat water with RO - that's where nuke reactors come in. India is thinking ahead - which is a good thing. With its coastline - fresh water then would never be a problem.
 
Hi guys one suggestion for all the Indian members stop posting crap pls before posting just do some research please :cheers:

Remember the way How we freaked out at the news of China building a dam on Brahmaputra :what:

so its the same with Pakistan and there concern is legitimate so stop making fun of pictures and giving war cries :taz:
 
Hi guys one suggestion for all the Indian members stop posting crap pls before posting just do some research please :cheers:

Remember the way How we freaked out at the news of China building a dam on Brahmaputra :what:

so its the same with Pakistan and there concern is legitimate so stop making fun of pictures and giving war cries :taz:

So if they blow up our dams, we would do what exactly ?

if they want to suggest such a course of action, why should the consequence or outcome of such an act, be sugar coated.

Its not at question that India may with hold water the water flows from India to Pakistan. the same water squabbles exist within India between states.

Its a common issue blown out of proportion

Pakistan seeks to blame all their water woes on India as they they with most of their problems.
they don't question their own Politicians as to how the inefficient management of their own water supply had made things worse.
The corruption in their irrigation system, and the redirection or rivers by their own dams.

Frankly, if all they want to do is blame India for everything, they have a better chance at fixing their water problems if they cry them selves a river.
 
So if they blow up our dams, we would do what exactly ?

if they want to suggest such a course of action, why should the consequence or outcome of such an act, be sugar coated.
Hey..Why are you bothered abt PK so much? You are Indian. Its there way of doing harakiri. Being our enemy, we should encourage them.
What will be our loss? As they are lower riperian , There fields in Punjab will be under water couple of inches. All there Al-Khalids will wait for land to dry while we can take walk across LOC. THey didn't even have any heli-lift capability to post any serious challenge. Even if we don't do that, there fields will not be producing anything for next coupe of years and will face the wrath of World community.
 
India: Dying of thirst - thestar.com
^^^ Canadian Source

BATHINDA, India–Desh Raj doesn't look like the most important man in town.

Betel nut juice stains his frayed white shirt, his pants are tattered, and he can usually be found with three or four days' worth of stubble on his face. But on this stretch of farmland in India's northern Punjab state, no one else is as popular these days.

The 34-year-old owns a boring machine and rents it to farmers, who use it to dig for water. Raj's cellphone begins trilling at around 7 a.m. and doesn't stop until late in the evening. There's a wait time of at least a month for his machine.

"They are all so grim on the phone," Raj says, standing in the shade of a tree next to a rice paddy. Raj himself has no reason to be morose. He charges customers as much as 600,000 rupees ($14,000) and has just bought a new house, car and TV/entertainment system with his profits.

His personal success bears witness to an escalating problem facing farmers here in Punjab, known as India's breadbasket for its bumper wheat and rice crops. In recent years, farmers have been forced to dig deeper to find groundwater. In some cases, even after drilling more than 335 metres, they're coming up dry.

You wouldn't think of India as being water-starved. Sometimes, it seems more waterlogged. Each summer, journalists set off in helicopters to report on the country's latest, devastating flood.

But pollution and climate change – combined with a severe drought this year – have created critical water shortages in India. With the population mushrooming and little or no progress on the pollution and global warming fronts, the problem may well get worse in the years to come.

Speaking at a conference last month, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh said: "Climate change is threatening our ecosystems, water scarcity is becoming a way of life and pollution is a growing threat to our health and habitat."

Most of India's rain falls during the monsoon season between June and September, a period when it's so hot that much of the moisture evaporates before it can be stored properly. Storm sewers that feed underground aquifers are typically clogged with garbage, compounding the problem, and canals and water pipes are laced with cracks and holes. As much as 40 per cent of the water carried in pipes in New Delhi is wasted, the country's Central Pollution Control Board says.

In most Western cities, the solution would be obvious: Call the city and have it fixed. But in India, many say the emphasis is on bolstering the country's surging economy – not improving its ramshackle infrastructure. Stroll along the sidewalk at New Delhi's Khan Market, perhaps the poshest shopping area in India's capital city, and you have to constantly keep an eye on the ground – or risk slipping into large, jagged-edged potholes.

Many of India's streams and rivers are choked by pollution, making them unusable for farming. In one case in southern India earlier this year, researchers studied a river near 90 factories operated by pharmaceutical companies. The river was a cauldron of 21 different medicinal ingredients used to treat hypertension, gonorrhea and chronic liver ailments. Researchers estimated that one company had dumped 45 kilograms of the antibiotic ciprofloxacin into the river in a single day – equivalent to five times the daily consumption of the medication in Sweden.

Then there are India's better-known rivers such as the Ganges and its northern tributary the Yamuna.

Both are said to be dead, and at least twice the Ganges has reportedly caught on fire. In 1992, a retired Indian Navy officer took his government to court, charging that the state had killed the Yamuna, where he used to sail regattas.

The officer, Sureshwar D. Sinha, argued that abuse of the river violated his rights as a practising Hindu. It had become too ****** for him to bathe there. The Supreme Court agreed with him and ordered New Delhi's water authority to treat all of the sewage pumped into the river. Nearly 20 years on, that order remains unfulfilled.

Underground, the situation is similarly troubling.

More than one-fifth of India's regional districts are over-exploited, a 2004 study by the Central Ground Water Board revealed. And while an official with the board said another study is planned for next year, research last month using technology from NASA may provide a preview.

Satellite imagery confirms what many activists have already been saying for years – India's water table continues to diminish at a record clip.

It's just the latest glum assessment of a country that's more often celebrated for its surging economy. When you factor in global warming, India's agricultural output may be carved by 40 per cent over the next 70 years, the Center for Global Development, a U.S.-based think-tank, recently reported. That's frightening when you consider the United Nations predicts India's population will be 1.7 billion by 2050, eclipsing China's 1.4 billion.

Naranjan Singh, a 63-year-old farmer whose family has tilled the flat Punjabi fields for generations, doesn't need satellite data to know his country is at a crossroads.

"We are in trouble," he says, gazing out at Raj's boring machine and stroking his grey beard.

In August, Singh and his four sons drilled down 158 metres searching for water for their cotton and wheat fields. They came up empty and are shifting 60 metres and preparing to drill down about 500 metres.

"As a country, we are going in the wrong direction with water," says Singh, whose state produces about 22 per cent of India's wheat (and, along with Haryana state, supplies more than 88 per cent of the country's emergency grain stocks). He toes a clump of dry, crumbly dirt. "We are running out of it, and crops are going to slow. We will see more hunger, more disputes and clashes. More theft."

Already, farmers are desperate.

And from desperation, it's a small step to violence.

As India struggles this year to cope with the worst drought since at least 1918, farmers in some states are beginning to guard watered crops with shotguns. A family earlier this year in Madhya Pradesh was murdered in a riot that broke out because of a dispute over water.

"In a decade, India could look like Darfur," says Vandana Shiva, a nuclear physicist who has become a well-known water activist based in Delhi. "You have people running out of water, and it's a recipe for killing. It really does make people desperate. You go without it for just three days and you've had it."

The increased demand for water caused by India's rapid growth is part of the problem.

India now has a population of 1.1 billion – there are 35 cities here with a population of more than one million – and its politicians like to point to the robust workforce that provides. Yet with 30 million new citizens each year, India's water and food resources are becoming increasingly taxed, in a country where, the United Nations says, 43 per cent of children aged 5 and under are already malnourished, compared with 7 per cent in China.

In an ironic twist, one of the reasons India faces a water shortage is thanks to its success in dealing with past crises. Following a series of famines that crippled the country and left it dependent on other nations for food, in the 1960s India embraced new, more productive, varieties of wheat and rice.

The new rice, known as IR8, provided especially robust yields, and it was especially resistant to blast, a rice disease, and to an insect called the stem borer. It was also faster to harvest, producing crops in 125 to 130 days instead of 210.

But there was a downside. IR8 also demanded far more water than its predecessors, a problem that was compounded because farmers were able to plant several crops a year, further accelerating the demand for water.

At about the same time as IR8 debuted, India started to use a new species of wheat developed by American agronomist Norman Borlaug. That crop was short-stemmed and produced high yields. But it, too, needed more water. And fertilizers and pesticides.

Water wasn't a problem in Punjab back then. "There was plenty of water," sighs Singh. "You could get good, clean water at (3 metres)."

Indeed, over the following 15 years, India's wheat production tripled, as did its reliance on groundwater. In the 1970s, some Indian schools were closed early so they could be used to store grains. The Green Revolution was under way, and by 1994 farmers had drilled an estimated 6.7 million wells. Now, there may be as many as 25 million.

And as India's population rushes on, the amount of food produced here (now 230 million metric tons worth of cereals and grains annually) is more than the country consumes(220 million in a year), says Mihoko Tamamura, an official with the World Food Program who oversees its operations here.

Some critics, including Shiva, charge that India has already fallen behind with its food production. Consider that nearly half of the country's children are malnourished.

Prime Minister Singh, meanwhile, urges calm and has asked Indians to deal with the "new ecological reality."

The government is insisting that new developments in some cities include rainwater-harvesting rooftops. Meanwhile, Punjab and a few other states have introduced regulations preventing farmers from planting rice until after the monsoon, a move that should save on water. The central government is also working with the World Bank to divert rivers from the loamy fields of the countryside to India's large cities.

One official with the Central Ground Water Board says more gains could be made by demanding farmers level their fields – a move that could save more than 10 per cent of the water needed – and by insisting they plant rice in furrows.

Many of India's leading politicians seem nonplussed by the looming calamity. Instead of dealing with it, many spend extravagantly on an array of bewildering projects.

In Mumbai, afflicted by some of the worst water pollution in the country, officials have announced plans to build a colossal monument off the coast of India's commercial capital, a 98-metre tribute to Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj, the 17th-century father of the Indian Navy. The project will require the construction of a 3-hectare artificial island and a huge bronze sculpture that will be taller than the Statue of Liberty. The new statue will cost more than $300 million and help "create `brand Mumbai,'" local authorities say.

Some politicians say the answer to India's food and water hurdles is simple. In a suggestion that seems callous given the country's rampant hunger, Lalu Prasad Yadav, a former cabinet minister from Bihar, one of India's poorest states, said people should "eat less, drink less, save on food and fodder and save the country." Perhaps skip one meal a day, he suggested.

In Singh's village on the outskirts of Bathinda, the possibility of missing meals seems a threat, not a choice. People aren't optimistic their government will save them.

"I'm praying a lot now," Singh says. It's worked before, he explains. In the 1970s, back when fields were ploughed with buffalo, a younger Singh prayed that God would help him afford a tractor. "Within a year, I had it, a beautiful blue Super Hindustan model, made in Czechoslovakia," he says.

Singh's eyes dart to his field, where workers set about moving the boring machine. He looked as if he didn't know what he should do next: drill or pray.
 
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I provided the link for the PAKISTANI NEWSPAPER. The Nation is not a blog. You indians think every news website is a blog except times of india :rolleyes:

Its true that India needs water but why don't you save your water? Water flow is not unlimited! Most of these dams are under-construction but still many rivers in Pakistan and India are dry just because of natural way or global warming. Now India building dams to save water why don't you do same? As you can see without dams also rivers are getting dry. We need to save water during rainy season.
 
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