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I remember the days when we had 2 threads each day dedicated to how India was stealing water from Pak, using tactics of I don't know which generation war, trying to destroy Pakistan.

I hope those people learn a lesson and not jump over every little rumor.

I guess we wouldn't need to discuss water in PDF anymore.
 
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Pakistan wastes 1/3rd of Indus water it gets, admits Qureshi

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan, which has often accused India of stealing its share of Indus waters, has said the authorities within this country have a tendency to "pass the buck" and exaggerate differences with New Delhi on the issue.

The mismanagement in Pakistan is resulting in the loss of 34 million acre feet of water, foreign minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi has said. Qureshi made the remarks on Friday when asked whether Pakistan had taken up the issue of India trying to block the flow of rivers in Thimphu.

Pakistan had taken up the issue but Pakistani authorities have a "tendency to exaggerate" and "pass the buck" in this regard, Qureshi said.

The average supply of water that reaches Pakistan is 104 million acre feet while the water that is consumed is 70 million acre feet. "Where is the 34 million acre feet of water going? Is India stealing that water from you? No, it is not. Please do not fool yourselves. We are mismanaging that water," Qureshi said.
 
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The great water debate
By Irfan Husain
Saturday, 01 May, 2010


Flying over southern Pakistan in May and June, it feels your plane is crossing a large desert. A few weeks later, the monsoons transform this arid tract into lush farmland. In the spring, the Indus works its magic along the fabled valley, but for most of the year, much of Pakistan is dry and parched.

Water, after the air we breathe, is our most precious commodity. Life cannot be imagined without it, and vast areas of the planet are being stripped of greenery as the flow of rivers declines, and the rains fail. Drought has struck in different continents, and glaciers are melting at a rapid rate. In the subcontinent, we are balanced on a knife-edge as water resources are being depleted while the population soars unchecked.

Acutely aware of our precarious position, a lot of media attention is now focused on this issue. Much of this discussion, however, is ill-informed and emotional. The thrust of the narrative is that somehow, India is stealing our rightful share of the water that is due to us under the Indus Waters Treaty. This accusation is constantly bandied about despite the clear assertion from our officials charged with monitoring river flows into Pakistan that there has been no diversion of our water by India.

Nevertheless, this is a highly emotive issue, and needs to be dispassionately analysed. According to Tariq Hassan, an eminent lawyer: “Water is the most strategic issue facing the subcontinent. If there is a war here in the future, it will be over water.” He makes the point that the treaty itself is inimical to Pakistan’s interest, and should not have been signed by Ayub Khan. However, much (but dwindling) water has flowed down the Indus since the treaty was signed some 50 years ago.

Another take on the issue comes from John Briscoe, a South African expert who has spent three decades in South Asia, and has served as a senior advisor on water issues to the World Bank. In an article titled War or Peace on the Indus?, Briscoe places the matter in a political context:

“Living in Delhi and working in both India and Pakistan, I was struck by a paradox. One country was a vigorous democracy, the other a military regime. But whereas important parts of the Pakistani press regularly reported India’s views on the water issue in an objective way, the Indian press never did the same. I never saw a report which gave Indian readers a factual description of the enormous vulnerability of Pakistan, of the way India had socked it to Pakistan when filling Baglihar….


“Equally depressing is my repeated experience — most recently at a major international meeting of strategic security institutions in Delhi — that even the most liberal and enlightened of Indian analysts … seem constitutionally incapable of seeing the great vulnerability and legitimate concern of Pakistan (which is obvious and objective to an outsider)…. This is a very uneven playing field. The regional hegemon is the upper riparian and has all the cards in its hands.”

Briscoe makes the point that even though India was cleared of any technical violation of the treaty in building Baglihar dam by an international panel of experts its timing of the diversion of the river to fill the dam caused great hardship to farmers in Pakistan. He goes on to argue that as the upper riparian, India can and should do much more to reassure Pakistan that it has no intention of violating the letter or spirit of the treaty. Above all, Briscoe puts the onus on Indian opinion makers to do much more to explain the issues fairly to the Indian public.

What this debate overlooks is the rapid population growth in Pakistan since the treaty was signed in 1960. From some 50 million 50 years ago, the number of Pakistanis has more than tripled to around 175 million today. The result of this unchecked fecundity, as Ahmad Rafay Alam informs us in an article called ‘Going down the drain’ in a national daily, is that water availability per capita per year has declined from 5,000 cubic feet in 1960 to 1,500 cubic feet today. This will naturally decline still further as our numbers increase, while rivers won’t suddenly bring more water, and nor are we likely to be blessed with more rainfall.

Alam writes: “Pakistan’s water resource, the Indus basin, consists of glacial melt, and a far, far second, rainwater. Over 90 per cent of our water resource is employed in irrigation. Less than five per cent is employed for domestic purposes … even less is employed in industrial processes….”

The fact is that just as Pakistan faces a future of dwindling water supplies, so does India. And if both countries are to solve their chronic power shortages, they will have to build dams. There is thus a need to develop deeper understanding about common problems and shared solutions. Given the deep distrust that separates the two countries, it is unlikely that any sane, rational solution will emerge any time soon. Meanwhile the situation will worsen with rising numbers and diminishing water availability. Tensions are bound to rise, and there might well be a media-fuelled clamour to somehow force India to release more water.

When hard times come, it is the sensible thing to tighten one’s belt and prevent waste. Yet in Pakistan, according to Alam, some 40 per cent of irrigation water is either wasted or stolen. Recently, the Punjab government accused the Rangers of stealing water from a canal. Surely the government must move to reduce this leakage. Charging a higher price that reflects the scarcity value of water would help prevent waste. Agriculture is not unusual in many arid regions, so drip irrigation, for instance, is not rocket science.

Another fallacy that needs to be put to rest is that somehow, the water that flows down the Indus into the sea is wasted. The fact is that the co-mingling of the river and seawater has created a vast ecosystem that is essential for the survival of much marine life. This provides a livelihood to thousands of fishermen. Whenever the flow of the Indus has ceased, seawater has flooded the coast, devastating thousands of acres of farmland.

Farmers in Sindh do not trust Punjab, and regard the Indus as their river, as it was until partition. So we must develop greater understanding between the provinces of Pakistan before we can expect our neighbour to live up to its obligations as the upper riparian
 
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Truth is out. And so called profesor hafiz saeed again busted lol. .after ol he was so much obsesd with india as he alwayz
 
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Believe me .. Our FM can sell his Family Members for $$$ .. Dont you see , he also Nailed Clinton :D
 
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as we all know that india always messes with our water what else we want to know?
 
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Pakistan to move arbitration court on Kishanganga project

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan has finally decided to approach the International Court of Arbitration against construction of the controversial Kishanganga Hydropower Project by India in alleged violation of 1960 Indus Waters Treaty and has formed a team of legal experts to fight the case.

Informed sources told Dawn on Sunday that Professor Kaiyan Homi Kaikobad, an international legal expert of Pakistan origin, would lead the team at the International Court of Arbitration.

He will be assisted by officials of ministries of water and power, law and justice and foreign affairs and Pakistan’s permanent commissioner to the Indus Commission and a few Pakistani lawyers.

The sources said that a group of government officials had recommended that James Crawford be hired for the job because he had represented Pakistan before the neutral expert when Pakistan took its case on the controversial Baglihar project on the Chenab a few years ago. However, prime minister’s adviser on water resources Kamal Majidullah opposed the move saying the outcome of Baglihar case was generally not in Pakistan’s favour. The government is estimated to have allocated about $10 million for the case.

The sources said that India had almost completed the 22-km tunnel to divert Kishanganga (Neelum) waters to Wullar Lake in violation of the Indus Waters Treaty and was working to complete the 330MW project by 2016. If completed, the project would severely affect Pakistan’s rights over the river, reduce the river flows into Pakistan and minimise its power generation capacity of the 969MW Neelum Jhelum Hydropower project near Muzaffarabad in Azad Kashmir.

They said that Pakistan’s Permanent Indus Water Commissioner had requested the government in March last year to quickly take up the case with the International Court of Arbitration after all options at the level of Permanent Indus Commission had been exhausted. It, however, took the government more than 14 months to seriously consider the advice.

Meanwhile, the Indian government’s project update reveals that about 33 billion Indian rupees sanctioned for the 330MW Kishanganga project in January last year has been increased to Rs37 billion.

“Work has restarted after settlement of outstanding issues. The project is expected to be completed by January 2016,” Indian documents reveal.

Pakistan has been opposing the project for more than a decade because it could stop water flows into Jhelum river. Bilateral talks have so far failed to yield any result to Pakistan’s satisfaction. The sources said Pakistan might have already lost priority rights over the project “as this tunnel is the major component of the project”.

Like the Chenab, the Jhelum of which Neelum is an integral part belongs to Pakistan under the 1960 treaty. Under the treaty, India cannot divert waters from Jhelum and Chenab rivers.

The Kishanganga project is located about 160 kilometres upstream of Muzzafarabad and involves diversion of the Kishanganga or Neelum to a tributary named Bunar Madumati Nullah of the Jhelum through a 22-km tunnel. Its power house will be built near Bunkot and the water will be re-routed into the Jhelum river through Wullar Lake, drying up a long stretch of the river on the Pakistani side.

When completed, the project would reduce the flow (pressure) of the Neelum and decrease the power generation capability of Pakistan’s proposed 969-MW Neelum-Jhelum Hydropower Project by more than 20 per cent or about 100-MW.

India has continued with the work on the project despite serious objections by Pakistan that it could not allow even a minor diversion of the river. Pakistan first received reports about Indian intentions to develop the project in 1988 but India officially confirmed it in the mid-1990s.

The issue had been on the agenda of the Permanent Indus Commission for more than eight years now, the sources said. Pakistan is constructing its 969MW Neelum-Jhelum project, which also is expected to be completed by 2016. Under the treaty, India cannot change the flow of Jehlum river even for power generation that may affect any Pakistani power project. The treaty provides Pakistan exclusive rights to use the water of western rivers -- Indus, Jehlum and Chenab -- while eastern rivers -- Ravi, Sutlej and Beas -- have been assigned to India.

Mr Kaikobad who has done his PhD from London School of Economics is a fellow of Royal Geographical Society (FRGS). Formerly a legal adviser to the government of Bahrain, he is currently a professor of law and director of research at Brunel University.


DAWN.COM | Front Page | Pakistan to move arbitration court on Kishanganga project
 
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DAWN.COM | Editorial | Water row

Unless New Delhi and Islamabad handle the issue with care and within the ambit of the Indus Waters Treaty, the water dispute between Pakistan and India could further sour bilateral ties and hamper peace talks that are likely to be revived.
The dispute has already triggered anger among farmers on this side of the border, and provided some groups an opportunity to fuel anti-India emotions. Unfortunately, Indians are doing little to allay Islamabad’s concerns regarding their plans to build several dams on the Indus, Jhelum and Chenab. These dams are believed to have the potential to choke off water flows of Pakistani rivers. This attitude has pushed Pakistan to seek international arbitration against the construction of the Kishanganga Hydropower Project in violation of the treaty.

Officially, Islamabad has never accused India of stealing its water. Yet it has time and again complained that India is not providing the information it is bound to supply under the treaty. Even the decision to seek international arbitration in this case has been taken after considerable delay to give the bilateral dispute-resolution mechanism a chance. The issue has been on the agenda of the Permanent Indus Commission for eight years.

Though India has the right to limited use of the rivers allotted to Pakistan for agricultural purposes and to build hydroelectric dams under the water pact, it is not allowed to obstruct the flow of rivers designated to Pakistan by storing or diverting water. India denies cutting off Pakistan’s water share. But, in this particular case, Pakistan feels that Indians are trying to divert Jhelum water for storage in Wullar lake. If that happens, it will destroy agriculture in central Punjab and jeopardise Pakistan’s food security.

Additionally, the diversion of Jhelum water will reduce by 27 per cent the generation capacity of the under-construction 969MW Neelum-Jhelum hydropower project near Muzaffarabad in Azad Kashmir. There is a sense of frustration in Pakistan and a perception that India is usurping Pakistan’s waters. The Indian reluctance to share information about the planned water projects is not helping matters. What we need on the water issue is transparency.
 
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India snubs Pak over hydro project- Hindustan Times

In a clear message to Pakistan to keep its hands off the Kishanganga dam project, India is going ahead with the construction of the 330-MW hydroelectric power plant on the river in north Kashmir.

Pakistan has threatened to move the International Court of Arbitration to get the project work stopped, citing an alleged violation of the Indus Water Treaty, brokered by the World Bank, of 1960 that empowered Islamabad to monitor the usage of the three rivers — Jhelum, Chenab and Indus — that flow from Jammu and Kashmir to Pakistan occupied Kashmir.

Kishanganga, which is called Neelam in Pakistan, is a tributary of the Jhelum.

The treaty also empowered India with full control over the waters of three Punjab rivers — Ravi, Sutlej and Beas.
“We are not going to halt the work. It will go on in full pace,” Minister of State for Power Shabir Ahmad Khan, who recently held discussions with Union Power Minister Shushilkumar Shinde on the issue, told HT. “We have not violated any provisions of the treaty.”
Pakistan foreign minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi told the National Assembly in Islamabad on Tuesday, as reported by Dawn newspaper, that Pakistan would move the international court to stop the work.
This is not the first time Pakistan is crying foul over river water projects.

Pakistan raised objections when the Baglihar power project work on Chenab river started, and took the issue to the World Bank.
“What came out of that?” Khan said. “Pakistan was told that no violation had taken place. In February 2007, a World Bank arbitrator upheld the Indian design and size of the Baglihar project.”


The tunnelling work of the project is in progress. The 22-km long-diversion tunnel will bring the Kishanganga water to the powerhouse at Dawar, 200 km from Srinagar, and then to Wullar lake.
 
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Pak Army, ISI reject new lawyer

Islamabad , May 9: The Pakistan Army and Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) have rejected the appointment of Professor Kaiyan Homi Kaikobad as head of the legal team of Pakistan in the International Court of Justice (ICJ) against India on Kishenganga hydropower project, officials here said.
“The appointment was show down by the Pakistan Army, ISI and others,” a senior government official said. He added that the previous Pakistan team headed by Professor James Crawford that had fought the legal battle against India on Baglihar Hydropower project will fight the case on Kishenganga hydropower project. “The authorities think that Pakistan cannot afford to try a new team headed by an unproven new man like Kaikobad who has not fought a single case in the international arbitration court while James Crawford is a well-known expert in international water law,” he said. Sources revealed that Kamal Majidullah, reputed close friend of President Asif Ali Zardari, who had been the driving force behind Kaikobad’s inexplicable catapulting, was virtually isolated in the a recent meeting and his viewpoint was not entertained seriously. Pakistan on April 19 has forwarded two names to India for the constitution of the arbitration court. India would also propose their names and then both the countries would agree upon on the name of chief of the arbitration court. The constitution of the court will take place within another five to eight months.
Some independent experts are of the view that Pakistan has delayed to move the international court as India has already managed to substantially construct Kishenganga project. According to some reports, India has completed 80 per cent construction on the project which was initiated by mid 1990s.

Shafqat Ali

Pak Army, ISI reject new lawyer
 
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Settle Kishenganga water row on lines of 1960 Indus Treaty: Pak to India

ISLAMABAD: Differences and disputes between India and Pakistan on the Kishenganga project should be addressed in line with the dispute-settlement mechanism in the Indus Waters Treaty of 1960, foreign minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi said on Monday.

Qureshi made the remarks during a meeting with Indus Waters Commissioner Syed Jamaat Ali Shah, who met him to brief him about the meeting of the Permanent Indus Waters Commission to be held in India later this month.

Shah and Qureshi also discussed issues related to water and implementation of the Indus Waters Treaty.

Qureshi said the Indus Waters Treaty had been an "effective arrangement between the two countries" and it is important that the pact is adhered to in letter and spirit, said a statement issued by the Foreign Office.

Differences over the sharing of river waters have emerged as a major irritant in relations between India and Pakistan in the past few years. Pakistan has accused India of diverting its share of waters by building dams and projects on rivers in Jammu and Kashmir.

India has denied the charges. Reports have said that Pakistan intends to approach the International Court of Arbitration to halt the construction of the Kishanganga project on the grounds that it violated the Indus Waters Treaty.

However, Qureshi has in recent weeks also called for better utilisation of Pakistan's water resources, saying that 34 million acre feet of water are wasted due to mismanagement.

Settle Kishenganga water row on lines of 1960 Indus Treaty: Pak to India - Pakistan - World - The Times of India

I would not support this Idea, already india is loosing plenty of water to Pakistan, We should scrap IWT, its more harmful to India.
 
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If there is a violation and if Pakistan feels aggrieved then by all means the dispute resolution process should be used. It has been used in the past as well and has successfully resolved disagreements. So the foreign minister is right.
 
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I would not support this Idea, already india is loosing plenty of water to Pakistan, We should scrap IWT, its more harmful to India.

Kishanganga hydro power project. is being built. Under the Treaty, the country first completing the hydel project on the Neelum river (Ganga river) would automatically gain the priority water rights this is according to Indus water treaty.so with help of treaty we can gain whole water of kishanganga,so its not a bad deal..
 
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