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[salman-1]

By looking at pictures it seems the fuselages of these thunders are just lying on their assembly platforms and no work is being done, as no wires parts or tools are around them. Still PAF doesn't make fuselages in Kaamra. They are made in China.
Wings , stabilizers and vertical stabilizers are only body parts made in Pakistan They are waiting for the final clearance of block 2 components. I think News for 2 JF-17 blk 2 is true. Even if they are fully assembled then basic flight testing and weapon integration takes at least 3 months

Delays could be due to new engines testing, probably WS-13 OR WS-13A. New Aesa Radars Mil 1750 computers, avionics and other major system testing and certification.

PAF is not in Hurry to induct older technologies, as these birds will be the backbone in next coming years. Dropping FC-20 was a wise decision for saving hard earned money for making Block 2 as comparable to FC-20 or F-16 blk 40/42.

New complex in Nawabshah could be a new assembly line with chinese for mass production to meet foreign and domestic needs. Many countries showed interest without placing any orders. Production and capability required weren't available in block 1 and Kaamra to meet orders. Just convincing for 5-7 aircrafts cant break the mold. (If somebody remembers the news of 5-7 aircraft offer to sri lanka ) Why no orders. Have to wait and see till end of this year for blk 2 variants.
PAF DOESN'T SIT IDOL in any given time. The lost decade of 90's was not lost at all. All upgrading was done for available fleet. Sanctions gave birth to the avionics factory to make grifo radars and 4 diff systems for the Air force. Like weapons store and management computers. IFF system etc.

As aircraft no 10-124 is standing inside Aircraft manufacturing factory instead of any hanger of squadron. I am sure its being upgraded to blk 2 like 109 we saw with C-802 and SD-10 while launching ceremony of 50th aircraft . This year all the fleet of 50 aircraft will be upgraded without wasting any time and next year will be manufacturing year for blk 2's

 

[PakEye]

Looking at the Face expressions of Nigerian Air Chief, why the hell he looks so out of zone, like he is there but then again he is not??

Only The Perfect Buyer Expressions.

 

[fatman17]

China Unveils New Short-Range SAM System

Nov. 11, 2014 - 01:33PM | By WENDELL MINNICK


ZHUHAI, CHINA — Aviation Industry Corporation of China unveiled its new PL-9C surface-to-air short-range missile system at Airshow China here.

With a kill range of 400-8,000 meters and an operational altitude of 30-5,000 meters, the new SAM comes in three system components: AF902 fire control system, twin 35mm anti-aircraft guns, and a missile launching vehicle capable of handling four missiles.

The system is road-mobile and uses multi-element infrared passive guidance. The system is a fire-and-forget intercept systems for medium-, low- and very-low-altitude targets, including UAVs, helicopters and fixed-wing aircraft.

The PL-9C is known largely as a short-range air-to-air missile for fighters, specifically the J-7, J-8 and the JF-17.

Airshow China, known officially as the 10 China International Aviation and Aerospace Exhibition, is being held from Nov. 11-16. ■

Email: wminnick@defensenews.com.


great idea for air-base defence.....

 

[hassan1]

 

[fatman17]

Air chief visits Zhuhai air show in china

• INP
• November 14, 2014, 11:51 am

ZHUHAI - Chief of the Air Staff Air Chief Marshal Tahir Rafique Butt visited Zhuhai Air Show (China) at the invitation of Peoples Liberation Army and Air Force (PLAAF). He participated in the opening ceremony of the air show.

He visited the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) contingent which is participating in Zhuhai Air Show – 2014. He also witnessed the static display of JF-17 Thunder. The aircraft is attraction of show and thousands of people including the air chiefs of the various countries are taking keen interest in this co-produced fighter aircraft. He met with the PAF contingent participating in the show and appreciated their involvement and presentation in the show.

He also met with his Chinese counterpart General Ma Xiaotian. Both the dignitaries discussed matters pertaining to professional interest and mutual co-operation between the two Air Forces. They also expressed satisfaction on joint air exercises conducted between the two friendly Air Forces. Other avenues of further enhancing the professional expertise of the personnel of the both Air Forces were discussed.

 

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[Najam Khan]

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Regarding PM's visit to PAC, it was required by Kamra to close loops of some old payments.
Pakistan needs political stability in next few years, we can't afford more hickups.

 

[Donatello]

Regarding PM's visit to PAC, it was required by Kamra to close loops of some old payments.
Pakistan needs political stability in next few years, we can't afford more hickups.

Which is why i am of the opinion let the current government stay. Trust me, you'll see corruption but you will also see money pouring into defense programs.

 

[raazh]

Which is why i am of the opinion let the current government stay. Trust me, you'll see corruption but you will also see money pouring into defense programs.

What guarantee you have that these same crooks will not become the next PM and winners in 2018 Elections also ?? Why do we Pakistani's live in a dream where everything will be OK on its own .. It will not be OK on its own .. Next year it will be Bilawal or Hamza shahbaz with majority seats and no election audit .. Some precedent must be set .. culprits must be PUNISHED .. without that there will be no change .. you can sleep on it for as long as you want ..

 

[Najam Khan]

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I am planning to narrate events of PAF history on blog. In mostly cases I have the pictures in decent sizes.
I'd be happy to increase more points, If anyone interested in helping me drop a PM/profile comment.

The events (mostly narration with photos) would be relating to PAF operations, could be battles/border-standoff/exercises and aircraft induction (or weapons like AIM120/H2/LGBs etc.) or even airshows etc.

Which is why i am of the opinion let the current government stay. Trust me, you'll see corruption but you will also see money pouring into defense programs.

Thats a big debate itself...
If its just corruption, Pakistanis may be bear this; but its their promises (with their masters) and poor foreign policy that make country suffer.

 

[fatman17]

Pakistan Air Force Mirage
November 21st, 2014 While on a routine night-time training mission this Mirage crashed near Karachi, killing one pilot, ...

 

[fatman17]

China's Anti-Stealth Radar Comes to Fruition

Nov. 22, 2014 - 03:45AM | By WENDELL MINNICK

Can Defeat Stealth? China claims that its JY-26 Skywatch-U 3D long-range air surveillance radar can detect stealth aircraft. (Wendell Minnick/Staff)

TAIPEI — The one great testament to China’s anti-access/area denial efforts were weapon and sensor systems on display at the recent China Airshow in Zhuhai.

One of the most noticeable was the road-mobile JY-26 “Skywatch-U” 3-D long-range air surveillance radar. China had plenty of road-mobile radars on display, but this one claimed a unique capability — “stealth target detection.” This towering radar is a clear symbol of China’s continued desire to locate and destroy stealth aircraft like the B-2 bomber and F-22 and F-35 fighters.

According to a brochure by the East China Research Institute of Electronic Engineering (ECRIEE), this radar “boasts double stealth target detection virtues thanks to operation in UHF [ultra high frequency] band and owning of large power-aperture product” for both air breathing targets and tactical missiles. The range of the UHF radar is not cited on the brochure, but other details are, including electronic counter-countermeasures and a complex digital active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar capable of tracking 500 targets.

An unusual feature is the bubble surface of the radar, which looks similar to Lockheed Martin’s offering in the Three Dimensional Expeditionary Long-Range Radar (3DELRR) competition, which Raytheon won. The surface of both radars is analogous to bubble wrap used to ship breakable items in the mail. These bubbles are transmit receive modules (TRM), but the JY-26 has fewer TRMs then the Lockheed 3DELRR, said Richard Fisher, senior fellow on Asian military affairs, International Assessment and Strategy Center.

Press reports of an alleged Chinese cyber espionage strike against Lockheed surfaced in April 2009, Fisher said. “Barring further US and Lockheed disclosures, we cannot know whether China stole critical radar information in addition to other programs like the F-35 stealth fighter.”

However, John Wise, a UK-based radar specialist, said the Lockheed 3DELRR is a “G-band (5.4GHz) radar and has nothing whatsoever in common with the JY-26, other than shape.” If JY-26 has true anti-stealth aircraft detection and tracking capability, it would need to operate down the bottom end of the UHF band (250-350MHz), he said.

“The elements [TMR] might be so shaped because they may offer circular polarization, which could have benefits for an air detection radar, and guesstimate the elements are half wavelength in dimension,” he said.
In 2011, an image of a larger version of the JY-26 appeared on Chinese-language military blogs that had twice the number of TMRs than the Lockheed radar, but the JY-26 variant on display at Zhuhai had fewer, which suggests the JY-26 at Zhuhai is either a lower-cost model or its developer has improved its software to allow for fewer TRMs, Fisher said.

“Nevertheless, the JY-26 poses a real threat to US and allied air forces and also demonstrates China’s capacity for developing electronic warfare systems that are competitive with the latest US systems,” Fisher said.

The timing of China’s cyber espionage and the appearance of the JY-26 suggest a painful question, Fisher said.

“Did China successfully steal data from Lockheed Martin’s radar shop that is now going to be used to better prosecute Lockheed’s F-35 fighter?”

Other experts, such as Wise, caution that common radar configurations are not necessarily evidence of espionage because similar engineering objectives could lead to similar solutions. Fisher said he believes the Lockheed radar was compromised by Chinese espionage and the evidence is the eerie similarity between two radars that use unique TMRs.

According to a Nov. 10 China-based article in the Global Times, a Shandong Province-based JY-26 recently monitored an F-22 flying to South Korea. Separated by the Yellow Sea, Shandong’s coastline is 400 kilometers from Kunsan Air Base and Osan Air Base, South Korea.

Who would be in the market for the JY-26? For one, Pakistan has to contend with India’s stealth fighter program with Russia, and Iran must deal with Israel’s planned procurement of the F-35 fighter.

Then there is the continuing threat many nations face from US B-2 bombers, F-22 fighters and eventually the F-35. ■
E-mail: wminnick@defensenews.com.

 

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[fatman17]

CX-1 Cruise Missile....