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[fatman17]

Are you breaking some NEWS? Some official happenings that have leaked or is it based on the rumors surrounding the project from day one?
Will love to get some more details of this " JALD AARAHA HAA.... AB AP KA SHER MEIN )

Saturday, October 25, 2014
J-31 to headline this year's Zhuhai International Aviation & Aerospace Exhibition.
Expert: J-31 has export advantages


(Source: China Military Online) 2014-10-24


　　BEIJING, October 24 (ChinaMil) –Over 130 aircraft of various types will participate in the 10th China International Aviation & Aerospace Exhibition to be unveiled on November 11, 2014 in Zhuhai of south China’s Guangdong province, and the J-31 stealth fighter will also appear in Zhuhai and conduct a demonstration flight, according to media reports.

　　Xu Yongling, an aviation expert, said in an interview that the Chinese fighters are renowned for its low cost and excellent technical standard. The J-31 stealth fighter has export advantages. In the future military trade market, China will no longer be the "small potato". Instead, its market share will gradually increase.

　　The J-31 stealth fighter had its successful maiden flight in 2012 and is still in the test phase. However, will its participation in exhibition only two years after the maiden flight reveal secrets of China’s stealth aircraft technology?

　　Xu Yongling said that the J-31 is likely to be positioned as an export-oriented aircraft initially. Therefore, the secrecy is not a problem. The J-31 shall disclose its appearance as much as possible in order to have a good showcase.

　　The current global arms export market is still dominated by the United States. Russia’s orders remain stable in the second place while arms exports from Europe are gradually improving. China is relatively weak in this field. "If Russia and Europe are entering into rivalry with the U.S. over the cake, then China can only cut a corner form the cake", said Xu Yongling. Once the J-31 is being exported, it will become a highly-competitive product in moderately developed countries or below, along with third-generation fighters.

　　European countries are traditional allies of the U.S. so their military aircraft trade contains a lot of strategic and political factors. It is very difficult for other countries to intervene.

　　The training systems in the NATO, the U.S. and its allies are bounded together. "It is very difficult for aircraft developed by outsider countries to enter their market as the threshold is very high", Xu Yongling said.

　　Xu Yongling stressed that China does not want to sell fighters to western countries. In addition to traditional friendly countries such as Pakistan, there are many countries in the Middle East, South Asia and Latin America whose demand for fighters matches China’s ability to export military aircraft. Some countries are lacking imported third-generation fighters while their second-generation fighters are going to the scrapheap. They have a large demand for importing fighters.

　　“If China’s products can catch up with the rhythm of these countries in terms of time period and we take initiative from military diplomacy, then the possibility of having a share in the third-generation and fourth-generation fighters market in these countries remains relatively high," said Xu.

　　Xu Yongling believes that the Chinese fighters’ share in global arms trade market will gradually increase in the future. It is possible for China to transform from a "corner” role to an important player with strong competitiveness.



Editor:Zhang Tao

 

[syedali73]

rather P, notice non cranked wings and three piece canopy

With AIM-9P. BTW, are we still using AIM-9P?

 

[Dazzler]

With AIM-9P. BTW, are we still using AIM-9P?

the (p) is for f-7P, an older version of f-7MP developed upon PAF specifications, not Aim 9-p

we still do use aim-9p though

 

[syedali73]

the (p) is for f-7P, an older version of f-7MP developed upon PAF specifications, not Aim 9-p

we still do use aim-9p though

Yes I know that 'p'. I was asking specifically about AIM-9P. The ones we are using been upgraded to block 5 standard?

 

[HRK]

Pakistanis are really pathetic , nothing to show of their own ,so relying on chinese defence news , haha.

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[Dazzler]

Yes I know that 'p'. I was asking specifically about AIM-9P. The ones we are using been upgraded to block 5 standard?

never heard on any upgrades on p, simply inducted new versions.

 

[syedali73]

never heard on any upgrades on p, simply inducted new versions.

I see. Following is an excerpt on AIM-9P family of sidewinders:

While the AIM-9L fulfilled the role of the frontline all aspect dogfight missile, a need still existed for a second tier weapon for use in less demanding situations, and also suitable for export to less than absolutely trusted allies. This requirement was fulfilled by the AIM-9P family, derivatives of the AIM-9J/N.

The AIM-9P-2 and P-3 were introduced in the mid seventies and use improved guidance electronics, a new rocket motor and an active optical fuse. While not receiving the publicity of the AIM-9L, the success of the weapon is testified to by the fact that no less than 21,000 have been built, with substantial numbers in the USAF inventory.

The AIM-9P is a USAF sponsored development of the AIM-9J/N family, to provide a missile for use in less demanding applications. The AIM-9P has evolved through the P-2, P-3 to the all aspect P-4, and the P-5 with additional counter-countermeasures capability. Large numbers of various AIM-9P subtypes are in use with the USAF and many export customers. The missile retains the conical nosecone and characteristic double delta canards first used in the Vietnam era USAF AIM-9E.

The AIM-9P-4 is an incremental development of the AIM-9P-3, with an all aspect seeker using some of the technology developed for the AIM-9L. In comparison with its cousin, it is less agile but still a very effective missile. The AIM-9P-5 is further improved by the addition of a counter-countermeasures capability. The wide range of types which can carry the P-3/4/5 suggest that the gas coolant is carried on board, as with the L/M.

 

[SQ8]

the (p) is for f-7P, an older version of f-7MP developed upon PAF specifications, not Aim 9-p

we still do use aim-9p though

Which is not always a bad thing. The P series onwards from the -2 variant are fairly potent missiles .

 

[araz]

Which is not always a bad thing. The P series onwards from the -2 variant are fairly potent missiles .

So do we know which variant of AIM9P are we using?
Araz

 

[umair86pk]

P4/P5 variants are in service but will be replaced in the coming years as they might be out of date by than as they were inducted way back in the 80s

 

[Dazzler]

talk about heat seekers, there are reports that pl-5eII is a very good development. It has better boresight agility, irccm resistance. Overall better than all sraams in current inventory except AIM-9M, that too in some areas.

 

[Donatello]

talk about heat seekers, there are reports that pl-5eII is a very good development. It has better boresight agility, irccm resistance. Overall better than all sraams in current inventory except AIM-9M, that too in some areas.

Well, can't say anything. Even though AIM9 is AIM9, the subversions are vastly different. AIM9L/M/P are all essentially different. Does anyone know which AIM9 is PL5EII based on?

 

[fatman17]

With AIM-9P. BTW, are we still using AIM-9P?

all AIM-9P rounds upgraded.

 

[fatman17]

Pakistan, Nigeria to boost military ties
By Syed Irfan Raza

ISLAMABAD: PAF chief Air Chief Marshal Tahir Rafique Butt is pictured with his Nigerian counterpart Air Marshal Adesola Nunayon Amosu during a briefing at the Air Headquarters here on Monday.—APP
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan and Nigeria agreed on Monday to boost military ties and trade in defence -related products.

The two sides discussed the issue during a meeting between President Mamnoon Hussain and visiting Nigerian Chief of Air Staff, Air Marshal Adesola Nunayon Amosu here on Monday. Nigeria’s High Commissioner to Pakistan Dauda Dauladi attended the meeting.

A source privy to the meeting told Dawn that Nigeria had shown keen interest in acquiring Pakistan-made arms, ammunition and other equipment, including tanks.

Nigerian Defence Minister Musiliu Obanikoro will attend Ideas-2014 national exhibition of arms, ammunition and defence related products to be held in Karachi in December.

During his visit some agreements are likely to be signed according to which Pakistan may provide defence related products to Nigeria.

Wishing the visiting dignitary a pleasant and fruitful visit to Pakistan, President Mamnoon said the two countries should explore avenues for further forging closer military ties, especially in areas of military training and defence technologies.

Meanwhile, the Nigerian delegation visited different defence production sites, including Pakistan Ordnance Factories Wah.

“The Nigerian showed interest in Pakistani aircraft Mashak and Al Khalid tanks,” the source said.

Defence Secretary Mohammad Alam Khattak, Defence Production Ministry Secretary Tanvir Tahir and high officials of the president’s secretariat were also present at the meeting.

APP adds: Air Marshal Amosu visited Air Headquarters and paid homage to the martyrs of PAF by laying a wreath on the Martyrs’ Monument.

On his arrival at the Air Headquarters, he was received by Air Chief Marshal Tahir Rafique Butt, Chief of the Air Staff. A smartly turned out contingent of PAF presented the Guard of Honour.

Published in Dawn, October 28th, 2014

 

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