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[fatman17]

AVM (r) Faaiz Amir new Air University VC
Saturday, October 18, 2014

Islamabad
Air Vice Marshal (r) Faaiz Amir, HI (M), S Bt, has been appointed as vice chancellor of Air University (AU), He will formally resume his duties from Monday (October 20). says a press release.
Air Vice Marshal (r) Faaiz Amir has served in Pakistan Air Force (PAF) for over 35 years. He has been a distinguished professional of PAF and commanded the prestigious Combat Commanders School of Pakistan Air Force. He also served as commandant of the National Security College of National Defence University (NDU).He possesses high command and management skills along with the advanced academic background.
His appointment as vice chancellor of this esteemed University has been hailed in academic and learned community. AVM (r) Faaiz Amir in his statement vowed to carry forward the mission of quality education at Air University and to work for the well-being of employees. He emphasised on teaching quality, advanced research, professional dedication and well-coordinated teamwork to thrive in academia for earning highest ranking among the national and international universities. The departing VC Air Commodore (r) Dr. Ijaz Ahmed Malik; AU Registrar Air Commodore (r) Ghulam Mujaddid; Director Academics Dr. Isa Daudpota, all deans, heads of departments and other officials of the university felicitated the new VC on his appointment.

 

[raazh]

Our universities need to get involved in real Research work .. Hope AVM will try to get projects from PAC and other industries to improve the level of student skills ..

 

[fatman17]

tid bits from Feng's blog:

On top of that, Pakistan has just signed a contract for 4 more F-22P. Since China doesn't report on its naval exports, we really don't know about those deals until we see them taking shape in one of the numerous naval shipyards around the country.

In addition, we saw the introduction of the Chinese version of MK-41 VLS that can launch different types of missiles and fit multiple missiles per launch cell. When we compared the overhead shot of 052D vs 052C, it appears that the size of the ships did not change much, but the new VLS and other weaponry have allowed more capabilities to be packed in the same hull.

PAF have really made JF-17 project what it is today by discovering/expanding the flight envelopes of the aircraft and working with various Chinese firms to add support for SD-10A, SRAAM, C-802A, various PGMs and the infamous mach 4.5 CM-400AG.

Project 310 will most likely be exported to Pakistan. After that, it will have to battle against F-35, PAK-FA and Gripen-E in the Middle East, South East Asia, Brazil and South Africa. Its main advantages are its cost and available production slot, but China will have to move fast.

China is probably in the best shape in the intermediate trainer class, because K-8 (aka JL-8) pretty much become the trainer of choice for third world air forces.

PAF got GBU-12 (paveway LGBs) from US and also the license production for GBU-12's laser guidance pod. LT-2 and GBU-12 are pretty much from the same generation, so LT-2 is facing "domestic" competition.

J-10 remains the most deadly fighter jet in PLAAF and will be work horse of PLAAF for the next 2 decades. In the past few years, it has handed lopsided defeats to su-27/J-11A/su-30mkk in PLAAF exercises. Even against J-11B (which is equipped with a newer generation of avionics), it can still achieve parity with its much smaller RCS and greater maneuverability

Countries like Venezuela, Egypt and Pakistan will certainly be more likely to buy L-15 after inducting K-8s.

Today, we just heard about the Mi-171 deal concluding with a company in Sichuan doing the assembly. As we mentioned in this blog, we first about this plan in one of the posters of this company. We also saw a picture of the first assembled Mi-171 on a Kanwa article last year. However, from this report, it's clear that China has received a Z-9 type of deal where it could the rights to eventually produce everything locally and exporting the planes to third countries.

As for future purchases, I think it's pretty clear 054 series is where PN would want to go at the moment. I'm still waiting for the follow ups to the first 4 054As to see what the upgraded 054A and future 054B will look like. It appears that unlike first suspected, each 054/054A uses 4 16 PA6 STC diesel engines from SEMT Pielstick. At least it makes sense that it uses a more power engine than the one Lafayette uses to power a larger ship in 054A.

 

[fatman17]

Hafr-1/2 - local copy of the french durandel RPB

 

[fatman17]

 

[Donatello]

tid bits from Feng's blog:

On top of that, Pakistan has just signed a contract for 4 more F-22P. Since China doesn't report on its naval exports, we really don't know about those deals until we see them taking shape in one of the numerous naval shipyards around the country.

In addition, we saw the introduction of the Chinese version of MK-41 VLS that can launch different types of missiles and fit multiple missiles per launch cell. When we compared the overhead shot of 052D vs 052C, it appears that the size of the ships did not change much, but the new VLS and other weaponry have allowed more capabilities to be packed in the same hull.

PAF have really made JF-17 project what it is today by discovering/expanding the flight envelopes of the aircraft and working with various Chinese firms to add support for SD-10A, SRAAM, C-802A, various PGMs and the infamous mach 4.5 CM-400AG.

Project 310 will most likely be exported to Pakistan. After that, it will have to battle against F-35, PAK-FA and Gripen-E in the Middle East, South East Asia, Brazil and South Africa. Its main advantages are its cost and available production slot, but China will have to move fast.

China is probably in the best shape in the intermediate trainer class, because K-8 (aka JL-8) pretty much become the trainer of choice for third world air forces.

PAF got GBU-12 (paveway LGBs) from US and also the license production for GBU-12's laser guidance pod. LT-2 and GBU-12 are pretty much from the same generation, so LT-2 is facing "domestic" competition.

J-10 remains the most deadly fighter jet in PLAAF and will be work horse of PLAAF for the next 2 decades. In the past few years, it has handed lopsided defeats to su-27/J-11A/su-30mkk in PLAAF exercises. Even against J-11B (which is equipped with a newer generation of avionics), it can still achieve parity with its much smaller RCS and greater maneuverability

Countries like Venezuela, Egypt and Pakistan will certainly be more likely to buy L-15 after inducting K-8s.

Today, we just heard about the Mi-171 deal concluding with a company in Sichuan doing the assembly. As we mentioned in this blog, we first about this plan in one of the posters of this company. We also saw a picture of the first assembled Mi-171 on a Kanwa article last year. However, from this report, it's clear that China has received a Z-9 type of deal where it could the rights to eventually produce everything locally and exporting the planes to third countries.

As for future purchases, I think it's pretty clear 054 series is where PN would want to go at the moment. I'm still waiting for the follow ups to the first 4 054As to see what the upgraded 054A and future 054B will look like. It appears that unlike first suspected, each 054/054A uses 4 16 PA6 STC diesel engines from SEMT Pielstick. At least it makes sense that it uses a more power engine than the one Lafayette uses to power a larger ship in 054A.

Lost of speculation, but i do expect more ships for PN along with Submarines, and China is the Natural source.

J-31 is still a good 5 years away from being FOC ready.By that time PAF will know the regional theater better, PAC can expand to accommodate J-31 production alongside JF-17 production, PAF would want 2-3 squadrons of J-31 anyway.

Now, since the new government is hell bent on generating cash, i do see some of the financial woes going away.

 

[fatman17]

coming soon to an air base near you...

 

[Arsalan]

View attachment 137449 coming soon to an air base near you...

Are you breaking some NEWS? Some official happenings that have leaked or is it based on the rumors surrounding the project from day one?
Will love to get some more details of this " JALD AARAHA HAA.... AB AP KA SHER MEIN )

 

[Donatello]

Are you breaking some NEWS? Some official happenings that have leaked or is it based on the rumors surrounding the project from day one?
Will love to get some more details of this " JALD AARAHA HAA.... AB AP KA SHER MEIN )

Bhai, it is given that any future low-RCS aircraft that PAF might procure would be from China, and most probably something like J-31. However, this is a good 5 years in the future. Right now, it is F-16s and JF-17s.

 

[Arsalan]

Bhai, it is given that any future low-RCS aircraft that PAF might procure would be from China, and most probably something like J-31. However, this is a good 5 years in the future. Right now, it is F-16s and JF-17s.

5 years a bot too optimistic i guess.

 

[Donatello]

5 years a bot too optimistic i guess.

Well, the Chinese will sort out the teething issues. I used the term 'Low RCS' for a reason. What i mean is, China or Russia will not be able to build the F-35/F-22 level aircraft in the next 10 years. F-22 is the benchmark for stealth. What is it's RCS? 0.0001m2?
However, if China can make a fighter that carries internal load and fuel, and as such it's RCS comes to 0.1 or 0.01, it is very good. Thus the term low-RCS, a plane that will be extremely hard to pick by radar, whether PD or AESA. We have no aims for air dominance over the world.We want a plane that can easily penetrate Indian SAMs. A plane that is 0.1/0.001 m2 RCS, can easily do that.

So in 5 years, that is possible. Plus the engines of course. Low RCS aircraft (whether you call them stealth or not doesn't matter, since as @gambit has already said no aircraft is invisible to radar. It's about how far away you can detect it. Detecting it at 1km doesn't help) in the Sub-continent would be equal to the introduction of Nukes. You don't have to go tit for tat. Even small amount of undetectable aircraft will have a massive effect.

 

[Arsalan]

Well, the Chinese will sort out the teething issues. I used the term 'Low RCS' for a reason. What i mean is, China or Russia will not be able to build the F-35/F-22 level aircraft in the next 10 years. F-22 is the benchmark for stealth. What is it's RCS? 0.0001m2?
However, if China can make a fighter that carries internal load and fuel, and as such it's RCS comes to 0.1 or 0.01, it is very good. Thus the term low-RCS, a plane that will be extremely hard to pick by radar, whether PD or AESA. We have no aims for air dominance over the world.We want a plane that can easily penetrate Indian SAMs. A plane that is 0.1/0.001 m2 RCS, can easily do that.

So in 5 years, that is possible. Plus the engines of course. Low RCS aircraft (whether you call them stealth or not doesn't matter, since as @gambit has already said no aircraft is invisible to radar. It's about how far away you can detect it. Detecting it at 1km doesn't help) in the Sub-continent would be equal to the introduction of Nukes. You don't have to go tit for tat. Even small amount of undetectable aircraft will have a massive effect.

I agree with the low RCS concept but i mentioned 5 years being too optimistic for another reason altogether. I do not see China will develop another LOW RCS plane other then the projects already running within 5 years and get that exported. Regarding the projects running that are categorized as 5th generation will also not be available in numbers to be exported. PLAAF will have there own requirements. Any next generation procurement by PAF will take more then 5 years, considering the current induction program, our financial situation and also platform availability.

 

[fatman17]

F-7PG on AD Duty.

 

[Dazzler]

View attachment 138003 F-7PG on AD Duty.

rather P, notice non cranked wings and three piece canopy

 

[Sulman Badshah]

View attachment 137449 coming soon to an air base near you...

Bro how much sure you are ???