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[Zulfiqar]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1100074652293058561

That is over isb on 14 Aug IIRC.

 

[gambit]

Thirdly NEZ is most importantly effected by the speed of the missile. A faster missile even if fired from a distance will have greater no escape zone as compared to a slower one even if fired at a closer range. This is just one factor of determination of NEZ. There are many others which I will keep telling.you as you grow older and maturer in missile craft.

Here is my commentary on the NEZ...

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/f-16-block-52-vs-mirage-2000-5-mk2.367886/page-5#post-6981301

 

[Aasimkhan]

your pretending to be an expert but you're not, i know better than you @Aasimkhan

I am not here to prove my expertise level to any one, that's classified. But trust me whatever I said is provable under lab conditions. Whatever you said is hearsay.

Here is my commentary on the NEZ...

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/f-16-block-52-vs-mirage-2000-5-mk2.367886/page-5#post-6981301

Excellent stuff. It proves my point to a great extent.

 

[Aasimkhan]

You're just a troll, nothing else, what is the prove that you have expertise in defense matters, your false ego
expertise not needed here on PDF and no one listening here your false expert analysis trash @Aasimkhan


What points, you are trash @Aasimkhan

When people finish with any more logic they resort to name calling. I won't diysgrace myself by further replying to your name calling. You have just shown your class

 

[python-000]

Pakistan must inducted 2 or 3 sqd of J-10B & 1 or 2 Sqd of J-31 or J-20 from China in this tens situation...

 

[Aasimkhan]

Pakistan must inducted 2 or 3 sqd of J-10B & 1 or 2 Sqd of J-31 or J-20 from China in this tens situation...

Haha u never know

 

[araz]

Pakistan must inducted 2 or 3 sqd of J-10B & 1 or 2 Sqd of J-31 or J-20 from China in this tens situation...

AC induction needs years of planning and depot buildup and pilot training development of techniques keeping in mind the flight characteristics of the plane. So even if by some miracle these planes were to arrive next week, they will for most purposes be useless on account of above factors.
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[MIRauf]

Actually time to push for some Loan / Aid from Gulf to buy EFT ( 40 odd, used if have to, ) upgraded for A2A Role if too expensive for Multi-Role. Pak PM, FM, Air-Chief, Army Chief all should be making round of Arab world and asking for $ assistance, make a huge case for it. Strike for $ Military assistance with the Arabs while Iron is hot, use this attempt / strike by India to Pakistan's own advantage.

Take a note from Israel play book vs Iran / Syria / Hizbullah etc. and how they use it to get max from USA and there is nothing wrong with it either as it serves them best.

 

[syed_yusuf]

Actually time to push for some Loan / Aid from Gulf to buy EFT ( 40 odd, used if have to, ) upgraded for A2A Role if too expensive for Multi-Role. Pak PM, FM, Air-Chief, Army Chief all should be making round of Arab world and asking for $ assistance, make a huge case for it. Strike for $ Military assistance with the Arabs while Iron is hot, use this attempt / strike by India to Pakistan's own advantage.

Take a note from Israel play book vs Iran / Syria / Hizbullah etc. and how they use it to get max from USA and there is nothing wrong with it either as it serves them best.

good idea,

 

[araz]

Actually time to push for some Loan / Aid from Gulf to buy EFT ( 40 odd, used if have to, ) upgraded for A2A Role if too expensive for Multi-Role. Pak PM, FM, Air-Chief, Army Chief all should be making round of Arab world and asking for $ assistance, make a huge case for it. Strike for $ Military assistance with the Arabs while Iron is hot, use this attempt / strike by India to Pakistan's own advantage.

Take a note from Israel play book vs Iran / Syria / Hizbullah etc. and how they use it to get max from USA and there is nothing wrong with it either as it serves them best.

I think the problem pakland has is that we dont have the money to pay the interest on the loans that we have currently aacrued. More loans would cripple us even more. I am not against the idea but perhaps in the next 2-3 years when we have rectified some of the acute fiscal pressures which befall us NOW.
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[AsifIjaz]

I humbly disagree...
Nothing can be done for the current situation on border. At max we can bring in a new batch of a2a or a2g missiles with spares.

For maximum leverage, benefit or modernization of airforce the shortest time period we are looking at is 2.5 to 3 years.

Now about ur point about milking arabs... we are not arabic speakers (read egypt), nor we are taken as arabs by anyone. So they will not dole out cash for us at the same level.
Secondly
If at all we have a leverage on KSA/UAE then we should use it to convince kSA to buy the low cost aircraft called jf17. Two squadrons worth sale can do wonders for us. Get the economy of production on ur side and what you will have is a steep thunder modernization program infront of you. This would be the best scenario for us both short and long term.

The shortest program with most bang for bucks is... We embark upon a modernization program of jf17 block 2 to block 2b asap. Get that air cooled aesa on board. I am sure 2 or 3 aesa can be had in next 6 to 7 months, provided we want it and really push for it. Afterwards we can start writing manuals and training programs for pilots following the upgradation of mere 2 or 3 aircrafts. By the time more aesa arrive for upgrading further block 2 aircrafts, we will have some crude knowledge and documentation of how to go about training and assimilation of pilots on same aircrafts but with better radars.
This will also help pilots when they switch to block 3 aicrafts in 2021 which will definitely have slightly different flight characteristics but with a more powerful aesa and hopefully a better ecm package.

Actually time to push for some Loan / Aid from Gulf to buy EFT ( 40 odd, used if have to, ) upgraded for A2A Role if too expensive for Multi-Role. Pak PM, FM, Air-Chief, Army Chief all should be making round of Arab world and asking for $ assistance, make a huge case for it. Strike for $ Military assistance with the Arabs while Iron is hot, use this attempt / strike by India to Pakistan's own advantage.

Take a note from Israel play book vs Iran / Syria / Hizbullah etc. and how they use it to get max from USA and there is nothing wrong with it either as it serves them best.

 

[Aasimkhan]

Yes, i am not your class but stayed in higher class than you, this phrase shows your class that AIR TO AIR MISSILES (BVR/SRAAM) HAVE NOT FIXED SPEED @Aasimkhan

Where did I say this? R u day dreaming?

 

[MIRauf]

Issue with just selling couple of Dozen Jf-7 is that what $1 Million profit margin or so per AC will need to be split between CAC / PAC.The long term after sale will make no difference today or next month.

Yes Pak is no Egypt, however Pak can dole out 100k+ solders easily for KSA/UAE needs while Egypt can't. Pak can stand up another couple of Divisions if needed in short notice ( finances permitted where as Egypt can't. ) KSA and UAE has gotten zilch from Egypt in favor of doling out $10+ Billions for Rafale etc.

KSA / UAE and other Arab countries need a strong Pak, Pak just need to get over the Iran hurdle and look out for its best interests.

 

[Aasimkhan]

from your post #6041, that's show your class @Aasimkhan sick:

I never said AIR TO AIR MISSILES (BVR/SRAAM) HAVE NOT FIXED SPEED, this is a figment of your wild imagination. Read my post carefully again and if you still are unable to understand then hire an English tutor.

 

[python-000]

Haha u never know

haha obviously Bro i am a common civilian person of Pakistan so how should i know...