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We could have kept them in service instead of donating them to other countries or leaving them in some junkyard?
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We could have kept them in service instead of donating them to other countries or leaving them in some junkyard?
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There was no real benefit in keeping a handful of old Russian Helis, that too with no prior experience on the platform and no or little know how of the machine.
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Not quite. We are still going strong with the Mi-17's in our inventory. So Russian tech is still there with regards to PAA.
That too with new upgrades on them as well.
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Wednesday, June 27, 2012
New PAF spokesperson appointed
KARACHI: Group Captain Tariq Mahmood was on Tuesday appointed as the new official spokesman for the Pakistan Air Force (PAF).
According to a press release, Mahmood, an MPhil degree holder in Mass Communication, has served as Deputy Director, Media Affairs in the PAF.
He has replaced Air Commodore Anis Mirza on his retirement. staff report
New PAF spokesperson appointed
KARACHI: Group Captain Tariq Mahmood was on Tuesday appointed as the new official spokesman for the Pakistan Air Force (PAF).
According to a press release, Mahmood, an MPhil degree holder in Mass Communication, has served as Deputy Director, Media Affairs in the PAF.
He has replaced Air Commodore Anis Mirza on his retirement. staff report
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Date Posted: 28-Jun-2012
Images suggest Shenyang's fifth-generation fighter is on the move
Robert Foster - Correspondent - London
An airframe that may be a new Shenyang Aircraft Corporation (SAC) fifth-generation fighter, photographed in China in June 2012.
A series of images published on Chinese defence websites show what may be the long-rumoured, but never seen Shenyang Aircraft Corporation (SAC) fifth-generation fighter prototype being carried on a Chinese truck.
While early images of the airframe showed it on a Shenyang-to-Beijing highway, more recent pictures suggest the aircraft was moved to the China Flight Test Establishment (CFTE) base at Yan Liang in Shaanxi province.
While analysts have speculated that the airframe is a SAC fifth-generation fighter prototype, which was first publicised in a 1997 US Office of Naval Intelligence report on threats to US naval forces, the manner in which it was transported - roughly covered on a flatbed trailer - suggests it may be a ground-based testbed rather than a prototype envisaged for flight.
An airframe that may be a new Shenyang Aircraft Corporation (SAC) fifth-generation fighter, photographed in China in June 2012.
The SAC fighter programme is believed to be a privately funded venture that was approved after a SAC fifth-generation prototype featuring canards reportedly lost to the Chengdu Aircraft Corporation's (CAC's) J-20 stealth fighter design, which has been in flight-testing since late 2010. The fact that the SAC fighter is privately funded may explain the lower security surrounding this airframe.
In September 2011 Shenyang unveiled a radio-controlled model of an "F-60" fighter that it built with the Shenyang University of Aeronautics and Astronautics (SUAA). Like most Chinese technical universities, the SUAA is heavily involved in research to support defence companies and the People's Liberation Army.
An airframe that may be a new Shenyang Aircraft Corporation (SAC) fifth-generation fighter, photographed in China in June 2012.
The F-60, which may be intended to complement the larger and heavier J-20, is a twin-engine conventional fighter that resembles Lockheed Martin's F-22 and F-35 aircraft and similarly features a planform and internal weapon stores intended to reduce radar cross-section (RCS). In 2005 Chinese sources suggested that CAC was considering a fighter similar to the F-35, which may have prompted a competing design from SAC.
Chinese commentators also suggest that a stealthy medium-weight fighter design could also form the basis for future naval carrier-based combat aircraft that might complement or succeed the SAC J-15, which is based on the Sukhoi Su-33 and due to enter service onboard the Kuznetsov class carrier, ex- Varyag .
Shenyang Aircraft Corporation (SAC) unveiled an F-60 fifth-generation prototype in September 2011.
Shenyang Aircraft Corporation (SAC) unveiled an F-60 fifth-generation prototype in September 2011.
Images suggest Shenyang's fifth-generation fighter is on the move
Robert Foster - Correspondent - London
An airframe that may be a new Shenyang Aircraft Corporation (SAC) fifth-generation fighter, photographed in China in June 2012.
A series of images published on Chinese defence websites show what may be the long-rumoured, but never seen Shenyang Aircraft Corporation (SAC) fifth-generation fighter prototype being carried on a Chinese truck.
While early images of the airframe showed it on a Shenyang-to-Beijing highway, more recent pictures suggest the aircraft was moved to the China Flight Test Establishment (CFTE) base at Yan Liang in Shaanxi province.
While analysts have speculated that the airframe is a SAC fifth-generation fighter prototype, which was first publicised in a 1997 US Office of Naval Intelligence report on threats to US naval forces, the manner in which it was transported - roughly covered on a flatbed trailer - suggests it may be a ground-based testbed rather than a prototype envisaged for flight.
An airframe that may be a new Shenyang Aircraft Corporation (SAC) fifth-generation fighter, photographed in China in June 2012.
The SAC fighter programme is believed to be a privately funded venture that was approved after a SAC fifth-generation prototype featuring canards reportedly lost to the Chengdu Aircraft Corporation's (CAC's) J-20 stealth fighter design, which has been in flight-testing since late 2010. The fact that the SAC fighter is privately funded may explain the lower security surrounding this airframe.
In September 2011 Shenyang unveiled a radio-controlled model of an "F-60" fighter that it built with the Shenyang University of Aeronautics and Astronautics (SUAA). Like most Chinese technical universities, the SUAA is heavily involved in research to support defence companies and the People's Liberation Army.
An airframe that may be a new Shenyang Aircraft Corporation (SAC) fifth-generation fighter, photographed in China in June 2012.
The F-60, which may be intended to complement the larger and heavier J-20, is a twin-engine conventional fighter that resembles Lockheed Martin's F-22 and F-35 aircraft and similarly features a planform and internal weapon stores intended to reduce radar cross-section (RCS). In 2005 Chinese sources suggested that CAC was considering a fighter similar to the F-35, which may have prompted a competing design from SAC.
Chinese commentators also suggest that a stealthy medium-weight fighter design could also form the basis for future naval carrier-based combat aircraft that might complement or succeed the SAC J-15, which is based on the Sukhoi Su-33 and due to enter service onboard the Kuznetsov class carrier, ex- Varyag .
Shenyang Aircraft Corporation (SAC) unveiled an F-60 fifth-generation prototype in September 2011.
Shenyang Aircraft Corporation (SAC) unveiled an F-60 fifth-generation prototype in September 2011.
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Had the privilege to speak to him a couple of times, sounds a very professional officer......promised some goodies.
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we should have displayed them at some roundabout or square as war trophy....just like we have installed sabers and f-6's in some cities.....
one of such hind's should have been put in the roundabout just outside the diplomatic enclave in islamabad...
wondering when we will ground f-7's and a-5 fantans...what are we going to do with them and on which square we will install them......
imo 5-10 should be sold to private companies who can give citizens ride in them.
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stored as strategic reserve (30) along with F-6 (40).
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yes sir...anything that can carry a nuke should be reserved as a strategic asset...no matter how old...
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Four air commodores promoted
ISLAMABAD, June 28: The government has promoted Air Commodores Anis-Ur-Rehman, Sohail Ahmad Malik, Muhammad Salman and Ijaz Mahmood Malik to the rank of Air Vice Marshal.
Anis-Ur-Rehman was commissioned in Pakistan Air Force’s GD(P) Branch on March 29, 1982. He has commanded the Fighters’ Squadron, Fighters’ Wing and Operational Air Base. A graduate from the Combat Commanders’ School, Air War College and National Defence University, he is a recipient of Sitara-i-Imtiaz (Military).
Sohail Ahmad was commissioned in PAF’s Engineering Branch on Jan 15, 1982. He has served as Chief Engineer JF-17 co-production and as managing director at the Aircraft Manufacturing Factory in Kamra.
He has been awarded Sitara-i-Imtiaz (Military) and Tamgha-i-Imtiaz (Military).
Muhammad Salman was commissioned in Air Force’s Engineering Branch on Sept 24, 1982.
He has commanded the Engineering Wing and has been working as managing director of the Mirage Rebuild Factory at PAC Kamra. He is a recipient of Sitara-i-Imtiaz (Military).
Ijaz Mahmood was commissioned in PAF’s Air Defence Branch. He has worked on all main air defence systems of the Air Force. He has commanded the Sector Operations Centre and the Airbase. A graduate from the Combat Commanders’ School, Air War College and National Defence University, he is a recipient of Sitara-i-Imtiaz (Military).
ISLAMABAD, June 28: The government has promoted Air Commodores Anis-Ur-Rehman, Sohail Ahmad Malik, Muhammad Salman and Ijaz Mahmood Malik to the rank of Air Vice Marshal.
Anis-Ur-Rehman was commissioned in Pakistan Air Force’s GD(P) Branch on March 29, 1982. He has commanded the Fighters’ Squadron, Fighters’ Wing and Operational Air Base. A graduate from the Combat Commanders’ School, Air War College and National Defence University, he is a recipient of Sitara-i-Imtiaz (Military).
Sohail Ahmad was commissioned in PAF’s Engineering Branch on Jan 15, 1982. He has served as Chief Engineer JF-17 co-production and as managing director at the Aircraft Manufacturing Factory in Kamra.
He has been awarded Sitara-i-Imtiaz (Military) and Tamgha-i-Imtiaz (Military).
Muhammad Salman was commissioned in Air Force’s Engineering Branch on Sept 24, 1982.
He has commanded the Engineering Wing and has been working as managing director of the Mirage Rebuild Factory at PAC Kamra. He is a recipient of Sitara-i-Imtiaz (Military).
Ijaz Mahmood was commissioned in PAF’s Air Defence Branch. He has worked on all main air defence systems of the Air Force. He has commanded the Sector Operations Centre and the Airbase. A graduate from the Combat Commanders’ School, Air War College and National Defence University, he is a recipient of Sitara-i-Imtiaz (Military).
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Sunday, July 01, 2012
New tech concepts with changing warfare needed: air chief
Staff Report
KARACHI: The nature of today’s warfare is constantly changing making it imperative for us to keep abreast of emerging technologies, new age weapons and concepts of technology driven warfare.
This was stated by Chief of the Air Staff, Air Chief Marshal Tahir Rafique **** while addressing the 97th officers’ commissioning parade held at Pakistan Naval Academy here on Saturday. Upon his arrival, the chief guest was received by Chief of the Naval Staff Admiral Muhammad Asif Sandila. The CAS said that at present we are facing various maritime challenges and threats like growing menace of piracy and continuous naval build up by the adversary. To meet these challenges, we have to be more proactive and develop insatiable quest for knowledge, he added.
Chief of the Air Staff laid emphasis upon the graduating officers to keep the national interest paramount and never let anything influence their commitment to the national duty bestowed upon them. He extended his felicitation to the commissioning officers upon successful completion of their basic naval training. He said that it was satisfying to note that besides training young officers in the art of maritime warfare, Pakistan Naval Academy was also inculcating in them core military values of integrity, honour and courage. Earlier, in his welcome address, Commandant Pakistan Naval Academy Commodore Muhammad Abid highlighted the salient features of training at Pakistan Naval Academy. He apprised the audience that the commissioning term comprises 82 regular and 22 Short Service Commission (SSC) officers including 3 females and 5 officers from Palestine.
Later, the chief guest gave away prizes to the winners. Midshipman Shehryar received Sword of Honour for best overall performance. The Academy’s Dirk was awarded to Midshipman Zubair Rashid. Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee Gold Medal went to officer cadet Sohail Nazim and the Commandant Gold Medal was awarded to officer cadet Qurrat ul Ain.
New tech concepts with changing warfare needed: air chief
Staff Report
KARACHI: The nature of today’s warfare is constantly changing making it imperative for us to keep abreast of emerging technologies, new age weapons and concepts of technology driven warfare.
This was stated by Chief of the Air Staff, Air Chief Marshal Tahir Rafique **** while addressing the 97th officers’ commissioning parade held at Pakistan Naval Academy here on Saturday. Upon his arrival, the chief guest was received by Chief of the Naval Staff Admiral Muhammad Asif Sandila. The CAS said that at present we are facing various maritime challenges and threats like growing menace of piracy and continuous naval build up by the adversary. To meet these challenges, we have to be more proactive and develop insatiable quest for knowledge, he added.
Chief of the Air Staff laid emphasis upon the graduating officers to keep the national interest paramount and never let anything influence their commitment to the national duty bestowed upon them. He extended his felicitation to the commissioning officers upon successful completion of their basic naval training. He said that it was satisfying to note that besides training young officers in the art of maritime warfare, Pakistan Naval Academy was also inculcating in them core military values of integrity, honour and courage. Earlier, in his welcome address, Commandant Pakistan Naval Academy Commodore Muhammad Abid highlighted the salient features of training at Pakistan Naval Academy. He apprised the audience that the commissioning term comprises 82 regular and 22 Short Service Commission (SSC) officers including 3 females and 5 officers from Palestine.
Later, the chief guest gave away prizes to the winners. Midshipman Shehryar received Sword of Honour for best overall performance. The Academy’s Dirk was awarded to Midshipman Zubair Rashid. Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee Gold Medal went to officer cadet Sohail Nazim and the Commandant Gold Medal was awarded to officer cadet Qurrat ul Ain.
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J-16
It was first rumored in August 2010 that SAC is developing a 3.5 generation heavy multi-role fighter bomber (J-16?) based on J-11BS. The aircraft can be viewed as an upgraded version of Su-30MKK (see above) based on its mission and capability, which is comparable to American F-15E. First flight was rumored to have taken place in late 2011. Like Su-30MKK, J-16 features a retractable IFR probe on the port side of the nose to increase its range. As the result the IRST/LR systm was offset from the center to the starboard side. The aircraft also has twin nose wheels due to increase of the TO weight. J-16 has tandem seats with a WSO sitting in the backseat. It features an enhanced fire-control system with additional AG modes. A new ECM system may have been installed as well. Like J-11BS, it is also powered by two WS-10 turbofans. Besides PL-8 and PL-12 AAMs, it could also carry the same precision guided weapons being carried by JH-7A, such as KD-88 ASM and LS-500J LGB. Compared to JH-7A, J-16 is expected to have a more powerful radar (AESA?), a greater weapon load (8t) and a longer range (4,000km).
- Last Updated 7/3/12
It was first rumored in August 2010 that SAC is developing a 3.5 generation heavy multi-role fighter bomber (J-16?) based on J-11BS. The aircraft can be viewed as an upgraded version of Su-30MKK (see above) based on its mission and capability, which is comparable to American F-15E. First flight was rumored to have taken place in late 2011. Like Su-30MKK, J-16 features a retractable IFR probe on the port side of the nose to increase its range. As the result the IRST/LR systm was offset from the center to the starboard side. The aircraft also has twin nose wheels due to increase of the TO weight. J-16 has tandem seats with a WSO sitting in the backseat. It features an enhanced fire-control system with additional AG modes. A new ECM system may have been installed as well. Like J-11BS, it is also powered by two WS-10 turbofans. Besides PL-8 and PL-12 AAMs, it could also carry the same precision guided weapons being carried by JH-7A, such as KD-88 ASM and LS-500J LGB. Compared to JH-7A, J-16 is expected to have a more powerful radar (AESA?), a greater weapon load (8t) and a longer range (4,000km).
- Last Updated 7/3/12
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August issue of AFM features below...
Force Report: The Chinese Dragon spreads its wings
China is strengthening its military forces – and has the money to do so. Dr Dave Sloggett and AFM’s Jerry Gunner analyse the People’s Liberation Army Air Force in an exclusive and extensive feature.
COVER FEATURE US: The Need for SEAD
Dr Dave Sloggett looks at how the US is altering its doctrine in the Pacific Rim due to the evolving Chinese military forces.
Force Report: The Chinese Dragon spreads its wings
China is strengthening its military forces – and has the money to do so. Dr Dave Sloggett and AFM’s Jerry Gunner analyse the People’s Liberation Army Air Force in an exclusive and extensive feature.
COVER FEATURE US: The Need for SEAD
Dr Dave Sloggett looks at how the US is altering its doctrine in the Pacific Rim due to the evolving Chinese military forces.
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Sir I have that info now
. JCB comes under 39th wing. The SAR unit stationed there is No.88 Sqn.
