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Wow, this Indian here knows more than the Financial Times!! :lol:

Now I know why they call you guys incredible. :P

Let it be.

These Indian tantrums surface periodically when their own insecurities get the better of them. All their 'points' have been refuted several times, but there's always another Indian who pops up with the same crap. There's a billion more where they came from. They are all raised on hate propaganda. We can't educate them all.

India is an artificial entity that needs an external bogeyman to maintain its unity. For 60 years, the bogeyman was Pakistan. Now it's China.
 
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Bl[i]tZ;2420484 said:
Pak is China's low cost hedge against India

By: Vikram Sood Date: 2011-12-22 Place: Mumbai

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It was a very perturbed Sardar Patel who wrote to Jawaharlal Nehru on November 7, 1950, pointing out that by our silence at the UN we had accepted Chinese suzerainty over Tibet.

In a forceful letter, the Sardar, not a man to mince words, warned that "The Chinese Government has tried to delude us by professions of peaceful intention" but in fact "it is not a friend speaking in that language, but a potential enemy."

He then detailed ten steps that needed to be considered to strengthen our internal border security and defences, especially in the north-east. The tragedy is that this letter was apparently never discussed. Till 1950, India had borders with Tibet not with China and by accepting China's suzerainty we became direct neighbours. Also, this concession in effect gave China a border with Bhutan, Nepal, India and Pak-Occupied- Kashmir. China now had the potential to be a player in South Asia.

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Forging selfish ties: China is using Pakistan as a stepping stone for
regional dominance and not as an end in itself


Mao's China was turbulent. The Korean War was followed by the disastrous experiments of the Great Leap Forward and the Great Proletariat Cultural Revolution. The revolt in Tibet in March 1959 leading to the Dalai Lama's flight to India added to China's paranoia. The Chinese thought it necessary to warn India through its Ambassador Pan Tzu-li in a letter to Prime Minister Nehru in May 1959, saying that China would make common cause with Pakistan. This would force India to face diplomatic and military pressure on two fronts. Therein lay the beginning of an all-weather affair that is deeper than the oceans and higher than the mountains.

1962 and 1965 were landmark years when India was involved in conflicts with both her neighbours. This provided an opportunity for Pakistan to get closer to China and the two have remained locked in a warm usually unquestioned embrace. For China, becoming Pakistan's largest arms supplier to match Indian acquisitions ” conventional, delivery systems and nuclear weaponry was a convenient hedge against India, and Pakistan thus strengthened by American indulgence and Chinese connivance felt emboldened to hone its assistance to terrorists as a low cost, highly effective foreign policy option.

Revived by Deng Xiaoping's four modernisations, China has used Pakistan's hostility towards India as a bridge for accessing West Asia not just as a counter to the US. It seeks geostrategic space and the rich mineral deposits of oil and gas, copper, gold, zinc, lead, iron-ore and aluminium in these countries including Afghanistan and Central Asia. There have been reports of a Saudi-Pakistan-China tie up on nuclear issues as well.

A Chinese official once told US officials that Pakistan was China's Israel. Pakistanis see China as an assured guarantor against India. The Deep State of Pakistan ” run by its military-jihadi combine, has to realise that the hard state of China is using Pakistan as a stepping stone for regional dominance and not as an end in itself.

Chinese ambitions extend beyond using Pakistan as a low cost secondary deterrent to counter India. Ayesha Siddiqa, one of Pakistan's better known analysts, makes a very valid observation when she says that China is an 'empire by stealth' which is "growing steadily without necessarily taking on the socio-political or economic liabilities of its client states." China will invest only in the extractive industries of Pakistan not in the country's development.

Gwadar on the Makran coast has significance and importance for China only if it has unimpeded access through Gilgit and Baltistan. There has been increased Chinese presence and activity in this region. The additional manpower is ostensibly meant for the several infrastructure projects in Gilgit-Baltistan.

Over time, as India has progressed, China's stance has hardened. It has played up issues ” like paper visas to residents of J&K or not granting visa to the Northern Army Commander and continued intrusions into Arunachal Pradesh and Ladakh. It has continued with its concerted attempts to keep both Myanmar and Pakistan under its influence to cover both Indian flanks.


Had India heeded Sardar Patel's advice in 1950 we would not perhaps been in this state of feeling surrounded by China in our backyard and the prospect today that Pakistan could become China's Somalia instead of its Israel is no consolation to India.

The writer is a former chief of Research and Analysis Wing (RAW)

Pak is China's low cost hedge against India


Damn you got trolls in RAW..:rofl:
 
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Let it be.

These Indian tantrums surface periodically when their own insecurities get the better of them. All their 'points' have been refuted several times, but there's always another Indian who pops up with the same crap. There's a billion more where they came from. They are all raised on hate propaganda. We can't educate them all.

India is an artificial entity that needs an external bogeyman to maintain its unity. For 60 years, the bogeyman was Pakistan. Now it's China.


:rofl: epic failure... Gentleman
 
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You must be dreaming of the superpower India that was able to defeat China in the 1962 war.

Even your own Indian Armed Forces recognize that they are no match for China today, and that the gap between us is in fact increasing every single day.

In 1990, China and India had the same size economy.
In 2000, China's economy was double that of India.
In 2010, China's economy was four times bigger than India's.
you must have till now have remembered all these facts on fingers right CD..you use them every now then so much so that they are even now considered as trolling statements to derail the thread...grow up unkil :) this thread is not about economy..
 
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Except! we are unwilling.
Of course, Many indian put their eyes on china, chinese too, but not as much as india, If you know chinese, browse the chinese website, You will find how do chinese look down upon indian economy, your military and you so-called fake democracy that you think it will let chinese feel sad!!! For me, indian-style democracy is a joke!!!
 
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If you know chinese, browse the chinese website

Sorry.... convert those websites to English .. and then someone may have a little motivation to look at them.

You can enjoy the chinese part of the internet yourself ... even Pakistanis don't care to go through your censored and biased b.s.
 
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Of course, Many indian put their eyes on china, chinese too, but not as much as india, If you know chinese, browse the chinese website, You will find how do chinese look down upon indian economy, your military and you so-called fake democracy that you think it will let chinese feel sad!!! For me, indian-style democracy is a joke!!!

How is your post even remotely related to what i said?
 
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China is now a true superpower. Pakistan is very particular with these matters.

No, we are still a third-world country. It will take at least another decade or more of high growth, before we can even think about being developed.

And according to the Economist, India is still 40 years behind China in terms of development indicators.
 
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Sorry.... convert those websites to English .. and then someone may have a little motivation to look at them.

You can enjoy the chinese part of the internet yourself ... even Pakistanis don't care to go through your censored and biased b.s.
It is just a suggest, whether you will do or not, that's you problem, OK, If you want to beat your enemy, know it first. I hate japanese, But I am happy to learn Japanese to can browse japanese website!! If such you kind of indian are always in india, I am so happy, whether you are interested in chinese, I don't matter, It will not hurt me. When you face a enemy, Know you well or don't know you a little, which enemy do you like?? Just enjoy you english that inherited from your colonialist!!! By the way, you answer let me so happy!! You can guess why!!!
 
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No, we are still a third-world country. It will take at least another decade or more of high growth, before we can even think about being developed.

And according to the Economist, India is still 40 years behind China in terms of development indicators.

"fateh71" was very much on topic but you have replied him with shameless off topic comments and flame bait.

Be on topic.
 
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Let it be.

These Indian tantrums surface periodically when their own insecurities get the better of them. All their 'points' have been refuted several times, but there's always another Indian who pops up with the same crap. There's a billion more where they came from. They are all raised on hate propaganda. We can't educate them all.

India is an artificial entity that needs an external bogeyman to maintain its unity. For 60 years, the bogeyman was Pakistan. Now it's China.

The artificial entity continues to exist much to the dismay of a pithy , substantial entity which existed till 1971
 
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Bl[i]tZ;2420484 said:
A Chinese official once told US officials that Pakistan was China's Israel. Pakistanis see China as an assured guarantor against India.The Deep State of Pakistan ” run by its military-jihadi combine, has to realise that the hard state of China is using Pakistan as a stepping stone for regional dominance and not as an end in itself.

Every one please tell which paragraph they think was genuine crap. My choice is the paragraph quoted above. :rofl:
 
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Of course, Many indian put their eyes on china, chinese too, but not as much as india, If you know chinese, browse the chinese website, You will find how do chinese look down upon indian economy, your military and you so-called fake democracy that you think it will let chinese feel sad!!! For me, indian-style democracy is a joke!!!

It isn't a joke! It is a blessing to China that they did not get Idi Amin or Robert Mugabe as CPC leader.... India did not get a good leader... That is unfortunate.... But people did have power to over throw the government atleast in the next term
 
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why do you Indians?americans **** ur pants at the ''low cost hedge'' come and we will show you what low cost really means......
 
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