PAF & RSAF To Hold Joint Air Exercise ''Spears of Victory''

[Windjammer]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1487383105690292226

https://twitter.com/x/status/1487476630633209856

 

[Trailer23]

Where are these exercises to take place?

KSA or Pakistan...

 

[kursed]

 

[Sage]

Excellent news ...

 

[Windjammer]

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From the patch it seems No 5 and No14 squadrons will be participating.
No 5 with Block 52s and No 14 obviously with Thunders.

 

[Abid123]

How did US agree to sell F-15s to KSA?

 

[Windjammer]

How did US agree to sell F-15s to KSA?

All the 9/11 attackers were Saudi Citizens... does the US or West ever mention this or point fingers.

 

[siegecrossbow]

I just realized something. No other air force has probably exercised with as many different aircraft types as the PAF has.

 

[Ali_Baba]

I just realized something. No other air force has probably exercised with as many different aircraft types as the PAF has.

Loads of American/Chinese/French origin aircraft for sure - yes, but not many actual Russian original Su27/30(yes to Chinese clones..) or Mig29's though..

 

[siegecrossbow]

Loads of American/Chinese/French origin aircraft for sure - yes, but not many actual Russian original Su27/30(yes to Chinese clones..) or Mig29's though..

You are wrong about Mig-29s. During last year’s Anatolian Eagles Azerbaijian’s Fulcrums participated.

Chinese Su-27UBK and Su-30MKK/MK2 have also participated in Shaheen exercises. If they wanted they could send Su-35 as well.

List of fighter aircraft PAF has trained with just off the top of my head:

F-15, F-16, F-22, Su-27, Typhoon, Rafale, MiG-29, Su-30, JH-7, J-7, J-8II, J-10A, J-10C, J-11B, J-16, Mirage 2000.

 

[alphapak]

Loads of American/Chinese/French origin aircraft for sure - yes, but not many actual Russian original Su27/30(yes to Chinese clones..) or Mig29's though..

They got to practice with Russian Su30 in Feb 2019.

 

[kursed]

I just realized something. No other air force has probably exercised with as many different aircraft types as the PAF has.

You are wrong about Mig-29s. During last year’s Anatolian Eagles Azerbaijian’s Fulcrums participated.

Chinese Su-27UBK and Su-30MKK/MK2 have also participated in Shaheen exercises. If they wanted they could send Su-35 as well.

List of fighter aircraft PAF has trained with just off the top of my head:

F-15, F-16, F-22, Su-27, Typhoon, Rafale, MiG-29, Su-30, JH-7, J-7, J-8II, J-10A, J-10C, J-11B, J-16, Mirage 2000.

And probably the only AF that's a continuous exposure to Sino, Russian / Soviet and Western / NATO combat tactics, all the same. It has not been to a Red Flag recently, and that will hurt the force going forward, but there's a reason why it's continuously engaging with individual countries that make up Red Flag ex (other than ofc the US), so as to keep itself abreast of new tactics / techniques.

 

[blain2]

And probably the only AF that's a continuous exposure to Sino, Russian / Soviet and Western / NATO combat tactics, all the same. It has not been to a Red Flag recently, and that will hurt the force going forward, but there's a reason why it's continuously engaging with individual countries that make up Red Flag ex (other than ofc the US), so as to keep itself abreast of new tactics / techniques.

I think even if PAF attends one RF ex. every 10 years or so, it is sufficient to validate PAF's own currency, operating procedures, tactics etc. The ex. is cost prohibitive and very taxing on the aircraft and the PAF has other options available in the intervening time with Turkeyie at Konya which allows engagement with various NATO elements and through the ACES sponsored bi-lateral/tri-lateral exercises with the Saudis, Chinese, Qataris etc.

One has to keep in mind that the Gulf countries host very advanced platforms and given the name of the game is BVR combat with AEW/ESM/ECM etc., they are excellent partners in this regard as they not only have cutting edge technology but increasingly they are getting more experienced in employment. Net is, this is all very beneficial for Pakistan.

 

[aziqbal]

training with other air forces no doubt helps the PAF

but it also shows the World our presence and our flag is flown and we are noticed

this also has huge diplomatic and political consequences

27th Feb 2019 didnt just happen, it was those years of Shaheen exercises and 1000s and 1000s of hours of developing tactics that result in that shot down

now Rafale should be trained against with JF17 Block III and J10C

 

[Thorough Pro]

That was turkey shoot not a serious exercise

They got to practice with Russian Su30 in Feb 2019.