PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

A high-resolution image of J10CP No.101

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

LOVE THESE BAND OF BROTHERS

 

[FOOLS_NIGHTMARE]

J-10C formation over Islamabad Today

 

[ghazi52]

^^^^^
Finally on Pakistani soul...

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[dranger22]

LOVE THESE BAND OF BROTHERS
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J10-CE is the new dream jet for Pakistani kids now! Breath of fresh air!

 

[TheSolution]

J10-CE is the new dream jet for Pakistani kids now! Breath of fresh air!

F-16 is still aesthetically the favourite tbh

 

[Dreamer.]

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What a beauty... ....


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So the 2nd antenna on the spine which was missing before is already installed now? as can be seen in this picture?

 

[dranger22]

F-16 is still aesthetically the favourite tbh

For you for you my friend

 

[jaybird]

Not sure what you mean by fuel tanks can be ejected. Unless they are conformal fuel tanks they are easily jettisoned during combat.

Maybe Ali_Baba is confused with Deino's post in page 362. The conversation was about replacing the inner pylons of the J-10C that carry fuel tanks to carry missiles as problematic. And not J-10C can't jettisoned the fuel tanks during combat.

Correct me if I'm wrong, I think Deino meant in order for the J-10C to carry aam or missile on the inner pylons, you can't just remove the fuel tanks outside, but have to open from the top of the wings to do modification on certain panels too.

Obviously PLAAF prefer the option of 2X PL-10, 4X PL-15, 3X fuel tanks as to 2X PL-10, 6X PL-15, 1X fuel tank.

But if PAF prefer the other option for their J-10CE, PAC Kamra probably can make the modification themselves too.

As for why the inner pylons of J-10C can carry guided bombs but not missiles, I read somewhere that it was supposedly the mechanism of releasing bombs and missiles are different.

 

[Viper 94]

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F-16 is pulling up

 

[jaybird]

So the 2nd antenna on the spine which was missing before is already installed now? as can be seen in this picture?

Not yet, there should be another antenna farther back near the vertical stabilizer. Just look at the pic Deino make to compare.

 

[Dreamer.]

Not yet, there should be another antenna farther back near the vertical stabilizer. Just look at the pic Deino make to compare.View attachment 825061

Oh yes, now I recall that the missing one was further back. Thanks for the correction.

 

[The Terminator]

Oh yes, now I recall that the missing one was further back. Thanks for the correction.

I have heard that the missing antenna is used to communicate with 5th Gen platforms like the J-20, as 5th Gen are capable of communicating tons of data on greater bandwidths than previous Gen so that's why China needs that datalink for synergy between it's fleet but currently there isn't any such requirement in PAF. So would save some $$ to drop that option in J-10CP. And opted for our own datalink Link-17 to better integrate within PAF fleet

 

[Development C&P]

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[Development C&P]

China's bubble cockpit design is exposed, and the J-10C cockpit is announced. The latest evolution is surprising​

2022-03-18 15:01 HKT

https://inf.news/en/military/c582af180208aaf9af23b5c33bc34ab3.html

China Military Network recently exposed a group of J-10C fighter cockpit control platforms. Its one-flat design and three-down design are almost the same as the public cockpit of the J-10B at the Zhuhai Air Show. When the 10C first entered service, it was often considered to be the 02 batch of the J-10B, which shows the close blood relationship between the two.

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Hero pilot Wang Jiandong

However, with the continuous evolution and improvement of the J-10 fighter, the glass cockpit of this model has also been improved 4 times. The airborne cockpit display system has progressed with the progress of the times. As a major national heavy equipment, the airborne cockpit must use the most advanced cutting-edge technology. The four monitors used in the J-10C are a revolution in the cockpit layout of fighter jets, which can improve the situational awareness of pilots to a greater extent.

Although the integration and display area of the F-10C's airborne equipment is not as large as the single-piece display of the F-16, it is sufficient for the later stage of the F-10.


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jian 10 Cockpit display

In the cockpit of the J-10C, the biggest change that makes people feel is the newly exposed helmet display, which can maximize the information level of the J-10 fighter. The helmet-mounted display can not only replace the aiming data in front of the pilot, but also directly command the aiming direction of the airborne sensor through the helmet, so as to eliminate all enemies in sight, and greatly increase the attack distance of the fighter with a large off-axis angle.

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For the air force of other countries, only the third-generation semi-fighter aircraft such as Xiang Rafale and F-22 are equipped with helmet-mounted displays. Helmet-mounted displays and integrated displays have become mainstream fighters in the future. Standard. Not long ago, there was news that Pakistan would buy the Chinese J-10C, because India has continuously introduced heavy fighters in recent years, and all Pakistan also has a need for heavy fighters.

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F22 LCD Display

According to Indian media reports, the Pakistani delegation went to China in October to purchase 30 J-10Cs at one time. However, the news has not been confirmed by the Pakistani military. In fact, as early as 2008, the Pakistani military reported the purchase of the J-10, but at that time the J-10 fighter had only been in service for two years.

In 2020, a Pakistani media website published a picture of the J-10 and JF-17 fighters. Moreover, the current Chief of Staff of the Pakistan Air Force Tanville Mehamud also stated that he is considering purchasing 36 J-10CE fighters from China. Since then, there have been news that Pakistan wants to buy Chinese J-10 fighters, but they have not been realized.

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Pakistan welcome People's Liberation Army Ceremony

According to reports, the China-Pakistan military exercise has started on December 9, and the People's Liberation Army J-10 fighters have also participated in air combat exercises. If the Pakistan Air Force witnesses the excellent capabilities of the J-10 , The possibility of buying the export version of F-10 will be greatly increased.



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But the J10 cockpit picture shown in the article has appeared early in 2019, and the source is China's TV show.

So I think it is more likely to be a J10A or J10B cockpit, not the J10C cockpit after the full avionics system.

Because the dashboard layout has appeared in the J10 research and development documentary in 2015

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Early J10 dashboard




Considering the cockpit photos on the Zhuhai Air Show, the dashboard should be J10B.