PAF J-10C News, Updates and Discussion

[Big_bud]

We were in kharia back in the day n my father was commanding 2 engs in 6 armor div.
It was winter collective n the whole contonment was empty except the families.
Our next door neighbor was LT.Col Bashir ( retd as a brig.) Was commanding arty unit. Can't recall which unit.
His unit was one of the first unit to recieve the m109. Lt col Bashir along with his wife (may ALLAH grant her jannah) arranged for basically all the officers families to be taken to the range to witness the field fire/ picnic.
So in busses we all went.
Once we reached the place we saw these brand spanking new "tanks"( kid my age would be hard pressed to tell the differance) linked up. uncle Bashir took all the kids n assigned a SP each n said I will fire the first shot n after that each one of u will fire.
Imagine the excitement on our faces.
So the gunner handed me the cord to pull.
Low n behold uncle Bashir fired the first shot n the roar of the gun n how the earth shook was an other experience.
Most of the kids ran away after hearing the first to the vehicles parked like 1km away. I too after firing my gun went n joined them.
After every shot the bus would move from side to side.
After the firing a sumptuous lunch was arranged. N finally ww rode around the range on a m 109.
Those were the days.

So basically your uncle used public money for personal enjoyment? They fired whole rounds for fun! Amazing. Idk under which law army officers do that? And under which head those expenses are counted? It is pretty frequent, I know that and should be discouraged.

 

[MIRauf]

So basically your uncle used public money for personal enjoyment? They fired whole rounds for fun! Amazing. Idk under which law army officers do that? And under which head those expenses are counted? It is pretty frequent, I know that and should be discouraged.

Actually Sir, the tab was more then likely picked up by tax payers like MK, myself and other US tax payers,

 

[Riz]

 

[Big_bud]

Actually Sir, the tab was more then likely picked up by tax payers like MK, myself and other US tax payers,

You took it to a different debate altogether. One which you will most probably fail miserably if we start scratching the surface and digging the facts. US tax payers can not fund exuberant state expenses anyways. US prints dollars to fund its military empire. It uses that military empire to force its currency as global trade currency. The day full burden of American state spending befalls upon American citizens, the society would completely collapse like a house of cards.

 

[MIRauf]

You took it to a different debate altogether. One which you will most probably fail miserably if we start scratching the surface and digging the facts. US tax payers can not fund exuberant state expenses anyways. US prints dollars to fund its military empire. It uses that military empire to force its currency as global trade currency. The day full burden of American state spending befalls upon American citizens, the society would completely collapse like a house of cards.

My point still stands, not a penny errr paisa likely came out of Pak state coffers.

PS: Rest of your points are valid and spot on, world will be one ugly place the day US state economy collapses.

 

[MastanKhan]

You took it to a different debate altogether. One which you will most probably fail miserably if we start scratching the surface and digging the facts. US tax payers can not fund exuberant state expenses anyways. US prints dollars to fund its military empire. It uses that military empire to force its currency as global trade currency. The day full burden of American state spending befalls upon American citizens, the society would completely collapse like a house of cards.

Hi,

The camel's LIP is not going to fall.

 

[Goenitz]

So basically your uncle used public money for personal enjoyment? They fired whole rounds for fun! Amazing. Idk under which law army officers do that? And under which head those expenses are counted? It is pretty frequent, I know that and should be discouraged.

I think that activity should be discouraged anyway to show that public assets are public's, but I guess the crew has already set the coordinates etc but just to fire teh weapon., they allowed the kid to fire. So, all the exercise goals were met except the firing.

 

[Trailer23]

Less than 30 days to go.

'nuff said .

 

[graphican]

Less than 30 days to go.

'nuff said .

25 or 36?

 

[Bigbang1983]

So basically your uncle used public money for personal enjoyment? They fired whole rounds for fun! Amazing. Idk under which law army officers do that? And under which head those expenses are counted? It is pretty frequent, I know that and should be discouraged.

Salam.
I usually don't add anything if I don't feel it's of a certain value...but I'll offer my two cents here ...

Sorry to say but that's not the whole picture. You have to understand that ordnance has a certain shelf life and the manufacturer recommends usage before that shelf life expires. You can either use it for war or for training. There are other ways of disposal as well but man and equipment needs to be in shape for the real deal and so we have firing ranges.

Now, Being from an army family, I have also had the privilege of watching a lot of equipment being used very closely with family but honestly those occasions were not planned for "family entertainment". They were planned drills and exercises.

Military life and soldiery is also a trade and craft and a way of living and so every man who is involved in it does indeed wishes to hand over the craft to the next generation just like doctors wish to make their kids doctors and businessmen expose their next lot to trading.

For that purpose exposure is the key and so military has a way of generating next generation of motivated warriors who can lay down their lives for motherland. And whenever men in boots take their families to such types of events then what do you get as a by product? Not only do you get motivated youngsters wanting to follow in the footsteps of their parents but you actually get 'warrior families'.
Our military is full of officers and jawaans from same families. Multiple generations have had the honor of serving the nation.

Sorry for the long reply.

 

[Riz]

27 feb 2022 is going to be another surprise day for india

 

[maverick1977]

25 or 36?

final number 36-40, 2 squadrons

 

[Abid123]

At Paris air show and Dubai international air show, J10CE quoted $40 million. It is rumored on the Internet that the purchase price of PLA is 200 million CNY ($32 million). This should only be the price of the plane, not the price of the plane flying away.

Thank you. So I guess it should be around 50 million USD for PAF. Honestly that is a excellent price for the capabilities the plane offers. Great aircraft. Bro when did the first J-10C enter service with the PLAAF?

 

[MH.Yang]

Thank you. So I guess it should be around 50 million USD for PAF. Honestly that is a excellent price for the capabilities the plane offers. Great aircraft. Bro when did the first J-10C enter service with the PLAAF?

J10c was first exposed on the Internet in January 2015.
In August 2017, J10c performed at the PLA military parade for the first time.
In April 2018, the PLA released the video of J10c performing combat duty flight mission for the first time.

 

[mingle]

final number 36-40, 2 squadrons

This should be initial I feel PAF would go 80/90 copies at least