PAF has requested for an increase of 1.5 billion dollar in the budget.

[Cornered Tiger]

45 J-11D are coming to PAF.

 

[WarFariX]

45 J-11D are coming to PAF.

source

 

[ZedZeeshan]

45 J-11D are coming to PAF.

maybe they

source

nothing...

 

[Cornered Tiger]

source

only option left with PAF. simple

 

[Ultima Thule]

Who is Russia?

Its based on Russian Su-30MKK sir design is their intellectual property

This money will go I to TX program

How are you are so sure?

 

[fatman17]

That doesn't reflect in budget? How?

historically Pakistan has procured military equipment via FMS grants / aid from the US and soft loans from China. as an example the entire F16 program worth billions of $s was purchased through sovereign funding and was not reflected in the defense budget which is mainly for operations and salaries. even the pensions come from a different govt. source.
the defense budget pie breaks down into army 45%, airforce35% and balance for the navy20% out of say 7B$ doesn't leave much for major capital investments. the recently concluded submarine deal from china will cost roughly 5B$ on a soft loan provided by china to be paid off by govt. funds not the defense budget. maybe there are some internal adjustments made but I am not aware of any.

 

[19CavPK]

But design is a Russian intellectual property, China can't sell J-16 without Russian permission

Even the engines on the JF17 are intellectual property for Russia. In the initial phases when the FC-1 was being tested, Russia, on request of India, had raised a concern with China regarding giving out their tech to Pakistan. China found a way out without compromising the project.

 

[SQ8]

The focus is being split on a buy of ancillary equipment and air defenses

No new aircraft as such
Although there are possibilities of either further second hand F-16s or a Chinese type but the PAF is wary of loans

 

[fatman17]

Even the engines on the JF17 are intellectual property for Russia. In the initial phases when the FC-1 was being tested, Russia, on request of India, had raised a concern with China regarding giving out their tech to Pakistan. China found a way out without compromising the project.

Russia allowed re-export to 3rd countries by china. now Pakistan is buying directly from Russia.

 

[19CavPK]

now Pakistan is buying directly from Russia.

That's a big achievement if we have gained that much of a trilateral trust between Russia, China and Pakistan.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Even the engines on the JF17 are intellectual property for Russia. In the initial phases when the FC-1 was being tested, Russia, on request of India, had raised a concern with China regarding giving out their tech to Pakistan. China found a way out without compromising the project.

J-16 is illegal copy of Su-30MKK, one original clause in Su-30MKK said that " China can't sell it or its copy to third party without Russian permission" bro

 

[ZedZeeshan]

J-16 is illegal copy of Su-30MKK, one original clause in Su-30MKK said that " China can't sell it or its copy to third party without Russian permission" bro

If Russia dont wanna sell SU35 to Pakistan then can allow China to sell the copy and earn the revenue through royalty... Rusia is not fool...i Punjabi Kheda gai na khedan dewa gai..

 

[Ultima Thule]

If Russia dont wanna sell SU35 to Pakistan then can allow China to sell the copy and earn the revenue through royalty... Rusia is not fool...i Punjabi Kheda gai na khedan dewa gai..

It is not that simple as you think Bro, i don't understand punjabi, i am from Karachi

 

[19CavPK]

J-16 is illegal copy of Su-30MKK, one original clause in Su-30MKK said that " China can't sell it or its copy to third party without Russian permission" bro

Errr.. My comment doesnt talk of the J-16 or the SU30.. who're you talking to?

 

[A.M.]

Just laughing at how some pdfians do their calculations.

This is real money....Not a game of monopoly lol.