PAF F16-Blk70 possibly coming - TO BE CONFIRMED

[mingle]

And then what? So what if the door is open? Where is Pak going to get the money to purchase all this? Let alone all the things u listed, Pak doesn't even have the full money to outright pay for the block 70 upgrades. If it isn't subsidized or given on line of credit...even this wouldn't materialize. So after this happens...it doesn't matter if the door remains open...there would be no funds to purchase other stuff and Americans aren't about to bank roll everything on Pak's wishlist.

Cookie CSF is there 9 billions along some money Govt of Pak can add we can get line of credit from US nothing to worry we will get Vipers and other Goodies. Current pentagon budget doesn't have ours CSF share Trump and Pompe said house will pass separate bill to allocate this money to Pak. No worries but it won't happen that they give us and we gave it to Russian weapons.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Arey bhai, just a bit of humor. I do respect and like MK.


Loans, No. But yes FMS as quid pro quo to facilitate a peaceful US withdrawal from afg with a modicum of victory. If Pindi has done their homework well they should get these free.

It’s the Afganistan under the Taliban where the details and the corresponding devils lie!!! The list for the details are too long, and they are commensurate with the goodies Pak is expected to be compensated with....

 

[princefaisal]

Since Pak-US defence relations are coming back to normal, so priorities should be set based on critical requirement & current financial capabilities. Following steps should be taken immediately with the US approval:

1. Urgent purchase of old F-16s from Jordon or else-where to increase the existing squadrons.

2. Urgent purchase of AIM-9X & V-kits from US for old & MLU F-16s and upgrade/configure them in Turkey, if possible.

3. Upgrade all existing Block-52s to Block-70 versions.

 

[messiach]

official source?

1)PAF will be getting 18~24 NEW Blk70 or 72's for now.

2)The current fleet will be upgraded to "V" specs. All of them.
Depending on the condition of the air-frame, some or all, will go through SLEP to 12k hrs.

This Breaking News, is a gift for all those people who stood by me, when I was unfairly banned. Thank You!

 

[Dazzler]

1)PAF will be getting 18~24 NEW Blk70 or 72's for now.

2)The current fleet will be upgraded to "V" specs. All of them.
Depending on the condition of the air-frame, some or all, will go through SLEP to

1)PAF will be getting 18~24 NEW Blk70 or 72's for now.

2)The current fleet will be upgraded to "V" specs. All of them.
Depending on the condition of the air-frame, some or all, will go through SLEP to 12k hrs.

This Breaking News, is a gift for all those people who stood by me, when I was unfairly banned. Thank You!

You should be banned permanently if this turns out to be a farce. Playing with sentiments of 220 million should come at a cost.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

I think the F21 was always a hard sell to india. It will despite the upgrades be an inferior aircraft in the mind of the average Indian, simply because Pakistan operates it. Also the age of the aircraft will play on their minds. I think another 36 Rafales will be purchased. Otherwise look at the potential lineup for the IAF

Su30
Mig21
Jaguar
Rafale
M2000
Mig27
Tejas
And then whatever else they purchase. It would be a huge logistics issue getting all the parts.

F21 is a part of the MII program which Rafale is now not a part of. Rafales are just being bought off French line.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Well if we get new 45 , F16 Block 70 , that would be a massive news

 

[Ultima Thule]

Well if we get new 45 , F16 Block 70 , that would be a massive news

Why not 200 @AZADPAKISTAN2009

 

[mingle]

Since Pak-US defence relations are coming back to normal, so priorities should be set based on critical requirement & current financial capabilities. Following steps should be taken immediately with the US approval:

1. Urgent purchase of old F-16s from Jordon or else-where to increase the existing squadrons.

2. Urgent purchase of AIM-9X & V-kits from US for old & MLU F-16s and upgrade/configure them in Turkey, if possible.

3. Upgrade all existing Block-52s to Block-70 versions.

I Doubt TAI will do this time due to mood of trump administration and current irritants between two nations.if All went well this time it should be done in Pak by LM and Grummans just upgrading whole fleet would be around 3 billion or more Make America great again means for US companies and by US companies.

Well if we get new 45 , F16 Block 70 , that would be a massive news

We can its up to PAF before earthquake 2005 actual number for blk 52 was 75 ended up 18 let's see.

 

[imadul]

It’s the Afganistan under the Taliban where the details and the corresponding devils lie!!! The list for the details are too long, and they are commensurate with the goodies Pak is expected to be compensated with....

Hope pindi wont sell cheap this time.
Would Afganistan not have a 4th grave?

 

[CodeforFood]

Trump visit to Pak will be after deal is signed.i Beleive F16s r known to every one we will see what package will be finalized along other Goodies I believe it would be big one more cobras. CSF money along some money by Govt of Pak will go purchase I won't be surprised if we get PAC 3 along M1A1 tank offer final tally will be above 10 billions my two cents only PAF new and used Airframes along current fleet upgrades will be 6 to 7 billion. Navy wants swift covertts along MPA Jett powered P8 Army wants Max pro we need them badly to minimize human loss at western borders may come from EDA. Lets see fingers crossed

While we are at it, lets add the aircraft career here as well. What's the harm eh?

 

[gambit]

Can Pakistan F-16 and purported new BLK 70/72 can intercept Israel AF? Would IFF designate them as????
@Khafee @Starlord @MastanKhan @Irfan Baloch @HRK or any other expert, pro.

Many IFF codes are unique, not 'universal', meaning a 'friend' code for US is not the same as a 'friend' code from Britain which is not the same as from Germany which is not the same as from France, and so on. If Britain want to let US know that British fighters are 'friendly', then Britain will have to let US know that code so we can add it into our list of 'friends'. Same for Germans and French and so on.

- An IFF interrogator signal is transmitted.

- Assuming the response is automatic, an IFF response signal is transmitted.

- The interrogator compares the response against a library of 'friends'.

When I was active duty, I have seen a response that ended up with an F-16 from my own squadron ended up as 'foe'. It turned out to be a bad IFF component. IFF codes are top secret and can be changed even from hr to hr, if necessary.

Civilian IFF codes are pretty much 'universal', meaning every country agreed upon a preset signal that identifies an aircraft as 'civilian'. One of these 'universal' mode is altitude: Mode C. This mean when an aircraft, military or civilian, is interrogated, the automatic response contains just the pressure altitude. Mode C is more for air control traffic assistance.

The interrogator signal determines the response.

- Q: What is your tail number (Mode 2) and altitude (Mode C)?

- A: 15,000 ft.

Now we have an incomplete IFF response. You are supposed to tell me your tail number and altitude but I get only altitude. You maybe designated as 'foe'. The reason it is 'maybe a foe' instead of 'definitely a foe' is because possibly your IFF system is not equipped to respond with unique aircraft identifiers like tail number or class of aircraft (heavy). Mode 2 code is reserved for military. Mode C is 'universal'.

If a military query received only a civilian type of response, we will assign the respondent as civilian -- for now. If the area is a conflict zone, then there will be serious problems with incomplete responses, perhaps even ended up with catastrophic problems.

 

[Imran Khan]

You should be banned permanently if this turns out to be a farce. Playing with sentiments of 220 million should come at a cost.

i am not in those 220 millions sir .hope its false news

 

[mingle]

While we are at it, lets add the aircraft career here as well. What's the harm eh?

We will park it at Karachi port and play cricket at the Deck

 

[BRAVO_]

i am not in those 220 millions sir .hope its false news

Exactly sir .. my first statement was also the same ... but enough fruit for thoughts for keyboard warriors and for F-16 fan club... and they will calm down upon the next negative statement of US ... until then show must go on