only for marketing purpose real air to air battle scenario is different ball game @Philip the Arab and you are forgetting Su-30 RCS before it will detect F-22/F-35/F-15 it going to shot down by the enemy because of its huge RCS @Philip the ArabErbis can detect 0.01m2 targets at 90km which isn't bad for size. It has better performance than AESA in many cases.
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It's a bit dark to conclude that a lot of members here will die off before NGF is ready...there are other ways to use humor.
I doubt that they will do that. If things go south and they want to exert some sort of control on Pak, they have other ways of doing so..anywhere from not providing spares, ammunition, etc. to a ton of sanctions. Keeping Pak's paid off F16s(sent for upgrades) will look extremely bad on part of US as a supplier and will hurt their potential future sales. In the past when US kept the new F16s(ordered and paid for by Pak), at least they were 'yet to be delivered'...and so they get away with the excuse of "Pak pursuing nuclear weapons" and what not. Keeping another country's paid off assets under the guise of upgrading them will make other countries apprehensive of sending their assets to US for upgrade. For any new purchases other countries would demand that US allow them to upgrade locally...or they will buy from elsewhere altogether. Additionally if Pak sends it's F16s to the US for upgrades, Pak would be sending them in batches...so at best they can keep one batch...IMO it's not worth losing customers, billions of dollars, and destroying ur reputation(as an arms supplier)...just to keep a few of PAF jets.
Im referring to this sort of report actually materializing into a viable contract.
Experience and no confirmation otherwise
wooooooooooow its amazing1)PAF will be getting 18~24 NEW Blk70 or 72's for now.
2)The current fleet will be upgraded to "V" specs. All of them.
Depending on the condition of the air-frame, some or all, will go through SLEP to 12k hrs.
This Breaking News, is a gift for all those people who stood by me, when I was unfairly banned. Thank You!
I just have one question...Trump has so far been hell bent on not giving "handouts" to other countries. This even included NATO where he basically told those countries to pull their own weight instead of overly relying on US. He even suggested that Japan and South Korea should step up and take care of their own defense needs. So my question is how is Trump on board for this upgrade of F16s. I would only expect that he is fine with it as long as Pak is paying for all of this...which I don't think Pak can at the moment. If US is going to cover some of this under CSF or something like that...then I expect Trump would be against it. Could u shine some light on this? Or is it something that u can't reveal yet?
How about u let US worry about that. It's their tech not urs.
F16 is made by private companies like Lockheed Martin. U don't own any of this tech...nothing, zilch, nada. Take ur taxpayer BS elsewhere. All the relevant parties involved(State Department, Pentagon, LM, etc.) have sold US tech to Pak before and there were no problems with unauthorized sharing of tech and there wouldn't be in the future. U don't need to concern urself nor do ur concerns matter.
