PAC And HAL Good Paint Job or Workmanship

[Windjammer]

Indians on PDF, due to their nature, often refer to products such as JF-17 built in Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) as a mere paint job. Albeit the sheer frustration and heartburn is understandable. However, since the Indians claim that their LCA Tejas is indigenous and pride product of Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) . Let's compare the two respective aircraft for their paint job and workmanship.

Tejas, Excellent paint job.

But a close look at the aircraft reveals some average workmanship.

Underneath the aircraft, it seems like patchwork and gun casing and surrounding has very basic if not poor finish.

JF-17 Thunder. An Average Paint Job.

Workmanship and Finishing.

JF-17 Gun Port.

Hope that clears the doubt as who is good at paint jobs and who is professional in workmanship.

 

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[Turingsage]

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The metal alloy that JF-17 was made in China. It was rolled into panels in China. It was pressed and shaped in China. It was screwed together partly in China. Final screw and paint in Pakistan

as opposed to hamarey Tejas ka bhi bataiye na fir, please.

 

[Windjammer]

The metal alloy that JF-17 was made in China. It was rolled into panels in China. It was pressed and shaped in China. It was screwed together partly in China. Final screw and paint in Pakistan

Well in that case you should also visit China since you also have few lose screws.
BTW, you claim to make the SU-30 in India.....do try selling even a tyre to another operator.

JF17 Production Line Images

My apologies if such a thread exists already, Admins kindly erase this if that is the case. This below is one example of a JF-17 Block II - here some foreign AF customers are being shown the production process - presumably as a sales exercise. Good Going Pakistan!

defence.pk

 

[HostileInsurgent]

Should I post the pic of JF-17 fitted with Door hinges at the Cockpit canopy? Paintjob? Any aircraft flying faces wear and tear, and paint in some areas start to fade whichever the aircraft is. Wonder how desperate people are to open threads on who paints their aircraft best? PAC or HAL?

 

[HAIDER]

Indians on PDF, due to their nature, often refer to products such as JF-17 built in Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) as a mere paint job. Albeit the sheer frustration and heartburn is understandable. However, since the Indians claim that their LCA Tejas is indigenous and pride product of Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) . Let's compare the two respective aircraft for their paint job and workmanship.

Tejas, Excellent paint job.

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But a close look at the aircraft reveals some average workmanship.

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Underneath the aircraft, it seems like patchwork and gun casing and surrounding has very basic if not poor finish.

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JF-17 Thunder. An Average Paint Job.

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Workmanship and Finishing.

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JF-17 Gun Port.

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Hope that clears the doubt as who is good at paint jobs and who is professional in workmanship.

damnnnn rivets off surface .. this is massive safety hazard

 

[KaiserX]

Tejas are good for being shot down or suicide mission by their own pilots

 

[Windjammer]

damnnnn rivets off surface .. this is massive safety hazard

And the canopy has a handle attached for the ground crew to open and shut it manually.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

Tejas are good for being shot down or suicide mission by their own pilots

They're not good for anything, not even for their National Day.

Incapable. Pathetic.

 

[Maarkhoor]

The metal alloy that JF-17 was made in China. It was rolled into panels in China. It was pressed and shaped in China. It was screwed together partly in China. Final screw and paint in Pakistan

Still gives you PIA......lols

 

[Air Wolf]

Tejas are good for being shot down or suicide mission by their own pilots

Or to be paraded around on top of trucks

 

[Khan vilatey]

The metal alloy that JF-17 was made in China. It was rolled into panels in China. It was pressed and shaped in China. It was screwed together partly in China. Final screw and paint in Pakistan

This video shows they manufacture their own stuff man......pac kamra wing design and fabrication
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[Bossman]

The metal alloy that JF-17 was made in China. It was rolled into panels in China. It was pressed and shaped in China. It was screwed together partly in China. Final screw and paint in Pakistan

Wrong. The raw sheet metal and alloys are procured against international tenders. Go look at PAC tenders. Also look at the machines at PAC, better than any thing HAL has. Suppose they are just for show.

 

[Windjammer]

as opposed to hamarey Tejas ka bhi bataiye na fir, please.

Lo soun lo fir.......your Tejas has had more implants than Frankenstein .

''What actually happened between 1983 and 2000? First, let us take the promise of indigenous development. In 1986 an agreement was quietly signed with the United States that permitted DRDO to work with four US Air force laboratories. The to-be-indigenously-developed engine for the LCA -- Kaveri -- was forgotten and the US made General Electric F-404 engine was substituted. Radar was sourced from Erricson Ferranti, carbon-fibre composite panels for wings from Alenia and fly-by-wire controls from Lockheed Martin. Design help was sought from British Aerospace, Avion Marcel Dassault and Deutsche Aerospace. Wind tunnel testing was done in the US, Russia and France. As for armaments -- missiles, guns, rockets and bombs -- every last item was to be imported.''

https://www.rediff.com/news/2001/jan/13nad.htm

Despite being in the works since 1983, the fighter is nowhere near indigenisation and almost 70% of the aircraft’s systems still need to be imported.

Read more at:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst