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Opposition leader warns Turkey in process of ‘Pakistanization’

“Why has Turkey been Pakistanized? Because of aiding and abetting [terrorist groups]. Everyone should be aware of this fact,” he said.

Not going into the merit of the argument but this will not go down well here coming from a Prime Minister in waiting.

I am not a fan of Erdogan but what I have noticed is that AKP supporters or the more conservative elements of Turkish society are more friendly towards Pakistan than their secular opponents.
 
Bharatis getting satisfaction from statement of an opposition leader. Poor souls have already given up hope on governments who don't give a **** to bharati rants. :(
 
Nah, Turkey just doesn't play after Eurocentric and American rules anymore. Money is still pouring in, even more than before. How do you think we finance world's largest airport in Istanbul, a giant new third bridge over bosboros Just these two developments cost around 8-10 billion dollars - you can't find a project in entire Europe close to these two developments. and many many more, on the way to building most high track train lines in Europe, second in the world.... . National rifle, national tank, national 5th generation fighter, fully indiginous anti-air systems. In my view Turkey is raising up from ashes, and Europe, USA, Russia percieve this new Turkey assertiveness as agressiveness because now we have confidence, whereas before we were fragile. A new competitor is arising, potentially harming German market in the future

And this opposition is a laughing matter especially that guy.. he lost 4 or so elections and he still is head of CHP, what a moron
 
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He is just trying to revive his political career, Turkey doesn't face the situation Pakistan faced in Afghanistan.
 
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Turkey’s main opposition leader Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu slammed the Justice and Development Party (AK Party) leaders for “turning Turkey into a bloodbath” and said they should be tried for “aiding and abetting terrorist organizations.”

In a speech to members of the CHP İstanbul branch, Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu said the neighboring Syria has become a new Afghanistan, an operational center for all jihadist groups. “They went there under protection offered by the government. Turkey has become embroiled in a process of Pakistanization,” said Kılıçdaroğlu.

The CHP leader said a total of 234 people were killed in six bombings across Turkey over the past six months. “No country that is not in a war has been through such a deep trauma. How can it be that 234 people have been killed over the past six months but no is held accountable politically?” he said.

28 people, mostly soldiers, were killed when a car laden with explosives detonated as buses carrying military personnel stopped at traffic lights in downtown Ankara on Feb. 17. It was the second bomb attack in the city over the past four months. On Oct. 10, 2015, more than 100 people were killed when two bombs exploded second apart among a crowd headed to a peace rally in the bloodiest terror attack in the history of the Turkish Republic.

President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan and Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu blamed the Syrian Kurdish People’s Protection Units (YPG) for the Feb. 17 attack, although its political arm, the Democratic Union Party (PYD) denied YPG involvement. The Oct. 10 attack is believed to have been carried out by militants linked with the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), although the government insisted that the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) terrorist group was also involved.

Kılıçdaroğlu said ISIL has emerged as a new source of trouble as if the PKK was not enough. “You handed them guns, you turned cities into weapon warehouses. ISIL has recruited militants from 70 provinces across Turkey,” he said, adding that the AK Party leaders, including President Erdoğan, should be called to account for what he called aiding and abetting terrorist organizations.

“Why has Turkey been Pakistanized? Because of aiding and abetting [terrorist groups]. Everyone should be aware of this fact,” he said.

The CHP leader said the terrorist groups gained ground in Turkey because the country is not well governed and added that former President Abdullah Gül, who co-founded AK Party, partly shares these concerns as well.

Gül, speaking to reporters on Feb. 19, said Turkey was going through the most difficult time of its history, in comments on the latest bomb attack in Ankara.

Opposition leader warns Turkey in process of ‘Pakistanization’

I think this guy is reading my posts :lol:
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now thats called bad karma in quest to become a world leader and make turkey a superpower turks have angerred the bear and the kurds at the same time and now even ISIS is getting out of turekies control lolzzz :D
 
Lost elections and failed to control his frustration.
 
Turkey doesn't face an existential crisis like Pakistan did. WTF is this guy smoking?
 
Those Men who call himself the "Opposition Leader" is just one of manies who are already insulting Atatürks legacy, actually only a Leader Erdogan can hold the Turkish Population together and not this scum who already spreaded his own Political Faction.

Erdogan is actually for Turkey the best Option, Turkey is changing, lets hope in a good way, this is just a situtation where interests are engaging against each other, i don´t think that someone else would able to protect the #Turkish interests like Erdogan.


So please i don´t know why, but why are outsiders are opening such threads which are related to Turkey without the knowledge about turkey & his history, which only caused from the International Media who are just following someone else propaganda ?


Some Facts:

- Everyday Turkish Army loses his Personal which are KIA.
- Those Personal also includes Kurds in their ranks.

So how can Turkey fight against the Kurds ?

Did you guys know that even the Kurds are to differentiate themselves ? They are not all the same, even they have their right,left and conservative wings in their Politics and even Turkey has in his Parliament a Kurdish Political Party, so how can Turkey fight against the "Kurds" ? isn´t that funny that the actualy government of Turkey has gain his victory in the last elections with the votes of the Kurds, so should i say something more or not ?

Those who are telling Turkey not to get involved in Syria are doing a big mistake, Turkey has more rights to get their involved then Europe or Usa or even Russia.

Those ones who have the right in that Region to dicsuss about this Issue are only in my eyes Turkey,Iran,Saudi Arabia & Israel, all others has nothing to do there !
 
shooting down an russian bomber, destroying tourism sector and doing business with ISIS doesn´t help much.

I mean its obvious that turkey goes down the toilet right now. I think Erdogan suffers from something we call "Cesars madness"

I guess he was too long in power. All around him are devote slimers who tell him what he wants to hear.

I dont know if you follow european news but we fear that turkey collapses into anarchy.
We don't care, what Europeans assume or think. We will do as we like.
 
At least Turks won't be running around naked on the beaches with their own mothers, sisters and daughters like those secular, liberal American stooges.

Are you claiming turkish girls dont wear a bikini ?

I dont understand Erdogan. He did good things for Turkey but he brings down evrything now.

He sponsors ISIS (which is a proven fact). He destabilized Syria to the point where it starts breaking apart in turkey. He fuels religious hate. He crushs civilian society. He started a massive conflict with russia which crippled turkish tourism even more. He makes war against the kurdish people which generates even more terrorism. He lost both the largest tourism groups. Germans and russians.

I guess he went demented. I have no other explanation for this anymore.

Tourism in italy is absolute booming now. Same counts for spain. Since all islamic countries broke away as market we get most of the money.

@Sinan whats going on there?

You think this migration issue is not affecting tourism in europe ?
 
Nah, Turkey just doesn't play after Eurocentric and American rules anymore. Money is still pouring in, even more than before. How do you think we finance world's largest airport in Istanbul, a giant new third bridge over bosboros Just these two developments cost around 8-10 billion dollars - you can't find a project in entire Europe close to these two developments. and many many more, on the way to building most high track train lines in Europe, second in the world.... . National rifle, national tank, national 5th generation fighter, fully indiginous anti-air systems. In my view Turkey is raising up from ashes, and Europe, USA, Russia percieve this new Turkey assertiveness as agressiveness because now we have confidence, whereas before we were fragile. A new competitor is arising, potentially harming German market in the future

And this opposition is a laughing matter especially that guy.. he lost 4 or so elections and he still is head of CHP, what a moron


YEAH.. thats true this all is a campaign against the rise of turkey.. all are afraid to have muslim dominated country rising up.. there had been sevaral threads and attempts in the last years to stop Turkey and they are getting more and more agressive..

man many ppl of the forum think to be educated and to be modarate.. in truth they are radical.. tell them what you/we want to tell them - they see what they want to see.. you cannot be stronger than the TV box :D

Turkey has more rights to get their involved then Europe or Usa or even Russia.

they simply deney you this rights.. you are muslim you are scum in their eyes.. or some just have an inferior complex.. but most go for muslim thing or secterian thing..

Did you guys know that even the Kurds are to differentiate themselves ?

most of them dont belive you because you are a turk.. no way a kurd could be leader of turkey that never happened before.. no way kurds can be popular and have firms or being superstars or just member of a party.. or the wife of a leader..


Killing terrorists.....killing thousands of terrorists in Turkey, Iraq and Syria....so terrorists got frustrated...but that will not save them.

they would love to see us being killed or just having nothing so we are quite and do what they want.. belive thats what Europe is I live there I know the truth..

you all are talking against walls.. this forum should open your eyes its not a frustrating exception
 
The situation is not at all that different. How long have you lived in Turkiye? I've stayed there for the better part of my life and have excellent contacts with various movers and shakers..... what Turkey is experiencing right now is a result of things that we put into motion in the 90's..... I, also maintain the same line..... Turkey today is what Pakistan was in early 90's...... if AKP stays in power, within five years you'll see it undoing the fabric of Turkish social life that Ataturk knit with his own hands.

First of all, the opposition is a bunch of fucking assholes, if they're so casual about insulting their closest allies. Second, the two situations are nothing alike, the similarities are superficial. The end goals are different, as well as the method of operation.
 
YEAH.. thats true this all is a campaign against the rise of turkey.. all are afraid to have muslim dominated country rising up.. there had been sevaral threads and attempts in the last years to stop Turkey and they are getting more and more agressive..

man many ppl of the forum think to be educated and to be modarate.. in truth they are radical.. tell them what you/we want to tell them - they see what they want to see.. you cannot be stronger than the TV box :D



they simply deney you this rights.. you are muslim you are scum in their eyes.. or some just have an inferior complex.. but most go for muslim thing or secterian thing..



most of them dont belive you because you are a turk.. no way a kurd could be leader of turkey that never happened before.. no way kurds can be popular and have firms or being superstars or just member of a party.. or the wife of a leader..




they would love to see us being killed or just having nothing so we are quite and do what they want.. belive thats what Europe is I live there I know the truth..

you all are talking against walls.. this forum should open your eyes its not a frustrating exception
As someone who was born and lived his entire life in Scandinavia i can agree with this. Whenever a PKK terrorist attack goes off in Turkey you know what these so called democracy freedom lovers (Danes) write all over facebook.
"100% Erdogan did this, Turkey deserves to die because they are burning innocent Kurds, Turkey created ISIS they are supporting ISIS against Kurds, why is Turkey part of NATO?" and so on.
I can guarantee you, 90% of comments from ethnic danes in Social media write stuff like this in Danish. Why do they do this? Because in their tiny brains Turkey has no right to defend itself against a terrorist organization like PKK. In their eyes PKK is fighting for freedom and Turkey MUST give "Kurds their lands"!.
Simple question. In Paris attacks all world leaders met in Paris and stood "against terrorism" together. Where are these world leaders when Turkey suffers terror? Where is all the media attention in Europe?
It's simple really. A European life in their eyes is so much more valuable than a savage Turkish. That is why Turkey doesn't deserve to defend their own lands. They are the pinnacle of hypocricy, sitting in their safe asses when they created the problems in Middle East by destroying Iraq. Who pays for their illegal wars? Where are all the refugees? 15 thousand refugees in Denmark and they made a law that will allow police to take away their jewelry. So much progressive :D
Denmark wants to seize jewelry and cash from refugees - The Washington Post

And when it comes to their holy moly Christian lifestyle it is progressive it defines them and they must protect these super values. Yet Muslims are all backwards and they need to go through change because we are so backwards and we can't coexist in a world of "change". Constantly undermining and devaluing all else and viewing world through stages of their definition of "development".
 
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Well its not too foolish to recognize that violence in turkey is gradually increasing as it is in Saudia. That is the end result, more suicide bombings, ied blasts and shia mosque attacks.

I think the world should unite over terrorism and severely punish terrorists of all castes and creeds.
 
All this is necessary for Turkey

Turkey does not have a choice

NATO will not stand with Turkey when the time comes

Turkey must keep improving it's economy, building it's military and funding R&D

Turkey must defend itself it's faith, culture, and people from the forced machinations of foreign powers on its borders

Pakistan had no choice in the 1980s we had a enemy India to one side and we were never going to tolerate a pro India USSR in Afghanistan so we did what we had to do at the time

Turkey today has to do what it has to do

The Syrian alewite regime aims to slaughter sunni Muslims for the sake of a minority cult and dictator, Iran and Russia has supported this on YOUR borders at the same time all powers are trying to empower the kurds


You can't wait around hit the kurds and support the resistance against Assad in Syria come what may.
Aleppo may fall but you can grind down the SAA and make Syria a money pit for all involved through Mujahadeen tactics
 

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