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[Marwat Khan Lodhi]

rate will decrease to nilll
once they lost their last sanctuary aswell
they r already on run

Most of the TTP areas in FATA and PATA were cleared in 2009 yet the rate didnt decrease. You are forgetting that you are dealing with a guerrella war, not conventional one. Just yesterday dir check post was attacked, and before that security forces were attacked in jamrud and bajaur. TTP has never killed so many soldiers in any military operations against them, they avoid confronting army in conventional manner. Most of the army casaulties have occured in the normal days when op is not going on and they came under surprise attacks.

 

[Secur]

Despite of the apparent successes, raheel might be ruining this ruined war further.

Yes, I believe that he should have asked the army to lay down their arms, the only way for successful dialogues/peace talks, disbanded the army, brought an end to democracy and ordered Islamabad be surrendered to TTP at midnight. There, I finished it for you.

and what are you claiming even? A goodwill on part of Fazlullah to not target civilians, after what he did in Swat with the same Swatis who supported him and ascended him to power? Same TTP who have been involved in attacks on civilians, even after Mehsud was gone? Same terrorists who threatened to burn Pakistani cities? The sole problem is that we aren't British fighting in a foreign land thousand of miles away, this is our country and we can take care of it, thus the same that worked on them wont work on us.

 

[TheNoob]

Most of the TTP areas in FATA and PATA were cleared in 2009 yet the rate didnt decrease. You are forgetting that you are dealing with a guerrella war, not conventional one. Just yesterday dir check post was attacked, and before that security forces were attacked in jamrud and bajaur. TTP has never killed so many soldiers in any military operations against them, they avoid confronting army in conventional manner. Most of the army casaulties have occured in the normal days when op is not going on and they came under surprise attacks.

Guerrilla warfare isnt effect.
ESPECIALLY when we are not the occupiers.
This is our war at our soil.
They cant drain us off our soul.
Our homeland, Our Life.
We fight for it. We'll die for it.

There is no way the terrorists can destory us or drain us off.

The only way it'll work is we need to put called conquerers/occupiers/invaders.
Since we're not.
F*ck the TTP.

Everytime u see a dead terrorist.
Always yell.
LOLUGOTREKTM8

 

[Marwat Khan Lodhi]

Yes, I believe that he should have asked the army to lay down their arms, the only way for successful dialogues/peace talks, disbanded the army, brought an end to democracy and ordered Islamabad be surrendered to TTP at midnight. There, I finished it for you.

and what are you claiming even? A goodwill on part of Fazlullah to not target civilians, after what he did in Swat with the same Swatis who supported him and ascended him to power? Same TTP who have been involved in attacks on civilians, even after Mehsud was gone? Same terrorists who threatened to burn Pakistani cities? The sole problem is that we aren't British fighting in a foreign land thousand of miles away, this is our country and we can take care of it, thus the same that worked on them wont work on us.

General raheel shareef is on same path as tikka khan. Iss sey ziada muje kuch kehney ki zarorat nahi.
As for as swat episode is concerned, the real man in charge was bani yameen of alqaida, fazlullah was just figure head. Bani yameen got tortured in ISI cell and lost his sanity and was consumed by revenge. Still the brutality was mostly shown against security forces. On the other hand pak army is also committing human right abuses and harassment of civilians on swat. Read latest interview of rahimullah yousafzai about situation of swat.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/27/w...vival-dread-returns-to-swat.html?src=twr&_r=0
and watch this
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Guerrilla warfare isnt effect.
ESPECIALLY when we are not the occupiers.
This is our war at our soil.
They cant drain us off our soul.
Our homeland, Our Life.
We fight for it. We'll die for it.

There is no way the terrorists can destory us or drain us off.

The only way it'll work is we need to put called conquerers/occupiers/invaders.
Since we're not.
F*ck the TTP.

Everytime u see a dead terrorist.
Always yell.
LOLUGOTREKTM8

Who told you that guerrella warfare is always against invaders? In most of the cases they are waged against their own states for various reasons.

 

[farhan_9909]

Not much has changed, TTP has changed tactics, they are avoiding attacks on civilians. Just compare the casaulties of security forces of each year from 2007 to 2014 and you will notice that their death rate has not changed much. E.g in 2013, 676 soldiers were killed by TTP while in half year of 2014, 376 soldiers are killed... So rate is same.

Considering that Zarbeazb is launched against TTP(Primary)

TTP Origin terrorism has decreased to almost a state of "HALT" in 2014,Be it Because of the cease fire for 2 months or because of the operation launch.

Majority of this year civilian casaulties is either due to Shia killing by Lej or Target killing in Karachi.

TTP has not changed any tactics but rather they forced to a situation of not being able to do anything.as i do remember last month they even tried to enter a vehicle with explosive loaded into a Hospital with alot of civilians(That too of people of NW).

 

[Menace2Society]

Some people are still trying to rationalize TTP when you can't.

Its a criminal organisation which duped the people of FATA because they are incredibly stupid and gullible and are mixed in with Afghan gypsies. This is why crime has increased in Bannu since IDPs have arrived. Many of these freeloaders are ex TTP Afghans pretending to be Pakistani citizens. It seems whoever they have befriended also covers their back.

 

[In arduis fidelis]

Some people are still trying to rationalize TTP when you can't.

Its a criminal organisation which duped the people of FATA because they are incredibly stupid and gullible and are mixed in with Afghan gypsies. This is why crime has increased in Bannu since IDPs have arrived. Many of these freeloaders are ex TTP Afghans pretending to be Pakistani citizens. It seems whoever they have befriended also covers their back.

"People" are only trying to rationalize their action because for them it is a sign of Pashtun nationalism pitched against evil punjabi oppressor army.Because their is no other reason a sane person will ever try even marginally to rationalize what they have done in the past decade.

 

[Menace2Society]

"People" are only trying to rationalize their action because for them it is a sign of Pashtun nationalism pitched against evil punjabi oppressor army.Because their is no other reason a sane person will ever try even marginally to rationalize what they have done in the past decade.

Then they realised it will result in their heads being chopped off at a public square.

Flawed concept of ethnic nationalism for a landlocked country with no place to go.

This is more of a problem with FATA and nowhere else. No census had been carried out in Fata before operations so we have no idea who was living there and if they were indigenous or Afghan. Many of these could be now IDPs.

Backward Afghans have mingled in with FATA community for their own gains in Karachi, TTP still to this day makes $60,000 dollars a month from extortion in Karachi whilst people of FATA degenerated into AK47 wielding morons and piss poor.

Malala and Aitizaz incidents should serve as a lesson for them. The world has changed, no more Ghengis Khan style rule.

 

[Kompromat]

Most of the TTP areas in FATA and PATA were cleared in 2009 yet the rate didnt decrease. You are forgetting that you are dealing with a guerrella war, not conventional one. Just yesterday dir check post was attacked, and before that security forces were attacked in jamrud and bajaur. TTP has never killed so many soldiers in any military operations against them, they avoid confronting army in conventional manner. Most of the army casaulties have occured in the normal days when op is not going on and they came under surprise attacks.

• Goal of this op is to deny them the operating base on Pakistani soil so when they carry out international terrorist attacks, it would be Afghanistan's problem, not ours.

• It would make them 2nd rate militants when they would be at the mercy of HeI and Haqqanis. They would have to pay homage to Afghan taliban and would have to fight their financiers in order to secure a safe heaven which will put them at the odds with people they have been fighting for.

• It would also mean that we would use diplomatic muscle to push Afghanistan to act against them, since they are on their soil, Afghanistan obviously will refuse and that would justify our covert ops and air strikes in Afghanistan.

• It would also mean that instead of Pakistan spending its resources, it would be Afghanistan and its Christian and Hindu strategic partners spending money on carrying out coin ops. We will dig in, install cantonments, beef up FC, rebuilt FATA, maybe turn it into a new province, install a civil structure and secure the border.

Once all of the above objectives have matured, we'd be back to the normal border control by FC, so the Army goes back to the Indian border in Punjab and Sindh to counter modi's delusions.

 

[fatman17]

ISI and Army Leadership Changes

• The Director General (DG) of the Directorate for Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) and four corps commanders of the Pakistan Army are set to retire in the next two months. The “major reshuffle” will include DG ISI, Lt. General Zahirul Islam, Corps Commander Peshawar, Lt. General Khalid Rabbani, Corps Commander Mangla, Lt. General Tariq Khan, Corps Commander Karachi, Lt. General Sajjad Ghani and Corps Commander Gujranwala, Lt. General Salim Nawaz. Their retirement gives Chief of Army Staff General Raheel Sharif the opportunity to determine four new Corps Commanders of his choice. The post of DG ISI is appointed by the prime minister.[1]

Al Qaeda and European Financing

• On July 29, The New York Times reported that al Qaeda has substantially increased its revenue flow since 2008 by coordinating kidnappings and negotiations for hostages as far away as Africa. According to the report, despite being thousands of miles away from where most kidnappings were taking place, al Qaeda's central command in Pakistan had a central role in running the kidnapping ring. Survivor accounts show that al Qaeda has coordinated the kidnapping efforts and protocol of its three main affiliates even though they operate thousands of miles away from one another. Al Qaeda and its affiliates have earned at least $125 million in revenue from kidnappings for ransom since 2008 and $66 million in 2013 alone. The United States Treasury Department reported even higher revenue, around $165 million since 2008. According to interviews and internal al Qaeda documents, European governments supplied the payments and covered them up by operating through a network of proxies and by listing ransom payments as development aid. As a result, according to counterterrorism officials, al Qaeda receives the bulk of its finances from ransom payments supplied by European governments including France, Italy, Germany, Austria, and Switzerland. By paying up to $10 million per hostage, European governments encourage al Qaeda and its affiliates to continue kidnapping for ransom operations.[2]

Pak-Afghan Border Attack

• Seventy to eighty suspected militants launched an attack from Afghanistan on a Pakistan military outpost between Tripaman and Inkal Sar in Upper Dir district, Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa on the night of July 29. Pakistan military soldiers reportedly successfully repelled the cross-border attack, killing seven suspected militants and injuring nine. In a statement on July 30, Pakistan’s Foreign Office strongly condemned the attack and registered a formal protest with the Afghan government over the attack. The Foreign Office also summoned a senior Afghan diplomat, the Afghan Charge d’Affairs, and promised to bring up the attack with the Afghan government in the context of general Pak-Afghan border security efforts.[3]

North Waziristan Offensive

• On July 30, Punjab Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif visited the Bakka Khel Internally Displaced Persons (IDPs) camp in Bannu, Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa, and said that the Punjab government will help IDPs affected by Operation Zarb-e-Azb by building 2,000 homes in North Waziristan in addition to a hospital, university and school.[4]
• On July 29, the Governor of Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa, Sardar Mehtab Ahmed Khan responded to reports that tribal people are moving into Afghanistan by saying the Afghan government should call back Afghan refugees in Pakistan before voicing criticism on the migration of IDP's.

i'm all for freedom of speech but if anyone on this board supports the TTP and their criminal gangs, they should be banned forthright.......

 

[TheNoob]

Operation Zarb-e-nonsense.....
Give warning for months...allow terrorists to escape...then bomb whetever is left...and ask for monry in the name of coalation support.

Goal is to get terrorist out of that place.
Either you kill em
Or make em run.
Once they leave, we wont let them come back. :x


or thats how i think this thing is.
Whatevers the result.
It'll be dealt with i hope.

And for gods sake.
Enough with this money nonsense.
I've seen so many ignorants saying this.

Pathetic excuse from braindeads....

 

[VelocuR]

Pakistan summons Afghan diplomat over cross-border attack
By Web Desk

Published: July 30, 2014

At least seven terrorists were killed and 9 were injured as the attack was repulsed by the Pakistan military. PHOTO: REUTERS

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan on Wednesday lodged a strong protest with Afghanistan over cross-border attack on a Pakistan army check post in Lower Dir area from across the border.

According to the statement issued by the ministry of foreign affairs, the Afghan Charge d’ Affaires was called to the Foreign Office and a strong protest was lodged over the cross-border attack on military post in Lower Dir area last night. At least seven terrorists were killed and 9 were injured as the attack was repulsed by the Pakistan military.

Pakistan urged the Afghan authorities, once again, to take effective steps to stop the use of Afghan territory for repeated cross-border fire and physical attacks by terrorists.


Pakistan would also take up the matter with the Afghan government at a higher level in the broader context of enhancing security along the Pakistan-Afghanistan border.

Pakistan summons Afghan diplomat over cross-border attack – The Express Tribune

 

[Kompromat]

Pakistan summons Afghan diplomat over cross-border attack
By Web Desk

Published: July 30, 2014

At least seven terrorists were killed and 9 were injured as the attack was repulsed by the Pakistan military. PHOTO: REUTERS

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan on Wednesday lodged a strong protest with Afghanistan over cross-border attack on a Pakistan army check post in Lower Dir area from across the border.

According to the statement issued by the ministry of foreign affairs, the Afghan Charge d’ Affaires was called to the Foreign Office and a strong protest was lodged over the cross-border attack on military post in Lower Dir area last night. At least seven terrorists were killed and 9 were injured as the attack was repulsed by the Pakistan military.

Pakistan urged the Afghan authorities, once again, to take effective steps to stop the use of Afghan territory for repeated cross-border fire and physical attacks by terrorists.


Pakistan would also take up the matter with the Afghan government at a higher level in the broader context of enhancing security along the Pakistan-Afghanistan border.

Pakistan summons Afghan diplomat over cross-border attack – The Express Tribune

Classic

 

[senses]

Don't we have any AC130 with FLIR in NW ?

 

[In arduis fidelis]

Don't we have any AC130 with FLIR in NW ?

We don't have AC-130 with FLIR anywhere let alone NWA because it doesn't exist.