Operation Peace Spring in Northern Syria : The Turkish initiative to create safe zone

[masterchief_mirza]

Well if Turkey gets rid of YPG from its southern border, then it's job done. I think if the wording is genuinely adhered to, Turkey has achieved its objectives. Assad has regained territory also - he is the biggest winner. The only losers here are the YPG terrorists.

Unless I'm missing something??

 

[cabatli_53]

Peace spring operation leave S400- sanction issues off the agenda as well. US promised No sanctions to Turkiye. Good timing indeed!

 

[Taskforce]

Well if Turkey gets rid of YPG from its southern border, then it's job done. I think if the wording is genuinely adhered to, Turkey has achieved its objectives. Assad has regained territory also - he is the biggest winner. The only losers here are the YPG terrorists.

Unless I'm missing something??

Remember Manbij deal? No need to say more.

 

[monitor]

Peace spring operation leave S400- sanction issues off the agenda as well. US promised No sanctions to Turkiye. Good timing indeed!

Any possibility of getting F -35 ?

 

[Glass]

Well if Turkey gets rid of YPG from its southern border, then it's job done. I think if the wording is genuinely adhered to, Turkey has achieved its objectives. Assad has regained territory also - he is the biggest winner. The only losers here are the YPG terrorists.

Unless I'm missing something??

They already denied any deals.

 

[xenon54 out]

JOINT TURKISH-US STATEMENT ON NORTHEAST SYRIA

1. The US and Turkey reaffirm their relationship as fellow members of NATO. The US understands Turkey’s legitimate security concerns on Turkey’s southern border.

2. Turkey and the US agree that the conditions on the ground, northeast Syria in particular, necessitate closer coordination on the basis of common interests.

3. Turkey and the US remain committed to protecting NATO territories and NATO populations against all threats with the solid understanding of “one for all and all for one”.

4. The two countries reiterate their pledge to uphold human life, human rights, and the protection of religious and ethnic communities.

5. Turkey and the US are committed to D-ISIS/DAESH activities in northeast Syria. This will include coordination on detention facilities and internally displaced persons from formerly ISIS/DAESH-controlled areas, as appropriate.

6. Turkey and the US agree that counter-terrorism operations must target only terrorists and their hideouts, shelters, emplacements, weapons, vehicles and equipment.

7. The Turkish side expressed its commitment to ensure safety and well-being of residents of all population centers in the safe zone controlled by the Turkish Forces (safe zone) and reiterated that maximum care will be exercised in order not to cause harm to civilians and civilian infrastructure.

8. Both countries reiterate their commitment to the political unity and territorial integrity of Syria and UN-led political process, which aims at ending the Syrian conflict in accordance with UNSCR 2254.

9. The two sides agreed on the continued importance and functionality of a safe zone in order to address the national security concerns of Turkey, to include the re-collection of YPG heavy weapons and the disablement of their fortifications and all other fighting positions.

10. The safe zone will be primarily enforced by the Turkish Armed Forces and the two sides will increase their cooperation in all dimensions of its implementation.

11. The Turkish side will pause Operation Peace Spring in order to allow the withdrawal of YPG from the safe zone within 120 hours. Operation Peace Spring will be halted upon completion of this withdrawal.

12. Once Operation Peace Spring is paused, the US agrees not to pursue further imposition of sanctions under the Executive Order of October 14, 2019, Blocking Property and Suspending Entry of Certain Persons Contributing to the Situation in Syria, and will work and consult with Congress, as appropriate, to underline the progress being undertaken to achieve peace and security in Syria, in accordance with UNSCR 2254. Once Operation Peace Spring is halted as per paragraph 11 the current sanctions under the aforementioned Executive Order shall be lifted.

13. Both parties are committed to work together to implement all the goals outlined in this Statement.

 

[cabatli_53]

If this deal goes into effect, I think it will result in Syrian seperation as well because US insists on staying in the place where they are controlling. Most probably, They are planning to use Syrian territory as coalition base to cut the effectiveness of Iran and Russia in long term while promising “No threat to Turkiye” from the terrorist elements they are going to feed in there. That must be the reason they typed “understanding of one for all, all for one” for Turkiye in deal. As long as they stay in Syria, the North section where the Turkish Army is going to secure the future of Arab population who is going to be settled won’t have much connection to the regime zone.

Any possibility of getting F -35 ?

I believe Trump wants to deliver F35 but congress or senators will cause a big headache to him If He does something positive. Turkey is not out of the program. Our partnership is suspended cause of S400 issue.

 

[Mustafa27]

if i remember right, turkey is still making payments for the f-35 .

 

[dBSPL]

if i remember right, turkey is still making payments for the f-35 .

Turkish suppliers of JSF also continue to deliver in accordance with their contracts.

 

[cabatli_53]

and 5th F-35 produced for Turkiye made maiden flight with Turkish flag in last week.

 

[dBSPL]

However, the issue of F-35 will continue to be handled independently of the Syrian crisis. Perhaps, if the regime wants to use this agreement in its favor, the circumstances may change.

Nevertheless, I think that the future of the Syrian issue will be shaped and enlightened in the next week's Putin Erdogan meeting.

 

[Haris Ali2140]

and 5th F-35 produced for Turkiye made maiden flight with Turkish flag in last week.

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Why is S-400 important for Turkey???

 

[Mustafa27]

However, the issue of F-35 will continue to be handled independently of the Syrian crisis. Perhaps, if the regime wants to use this agreement in its favor, the circumstances may change.

Nevertheless, I think that the future of the Syrian issue will be shaped and enlightened in the next week's Putin Erdogan meeting.

I think thats why they put 120 hours, so that there is a ceasefire until the erdogan and putin meeting.

Why is S-400 important for Turkey???

We are surrounded by enemies and we don't have a air defense system. Moreover, the s-400 last time i read comes with significant tot, which helps with our own systems.

 

[dBSPL]

What brings America to our feet in a hurry is the bullet coming out of the barrel.

If the goal determined by the political will can be achieved without a conflict, this is primarily evaluated. Desired goal has been achieved with this agreement. Not all targets have been achieved, but we have pulled the other side of the bargaining table to an ideal point.

What if 120 hours doesn't work? We'il go back to the first sentence.

This is a long-standing struggle. Since 2016, this logic continues. The restoration of Syria, which started from Azaz, reached Rasullayn today.

 

[Haris Ali2140]

I think thats why they put 120 hours, so that there is a ceasefire until the erdogan and putin meeting.



We are surrounded by enemies and we don't have a air defense system. Moreover, the s-400 last time i read comes with significant tot, which helps with our own systems.

But is it worth the capabilities of F-35???